Don't know if im in the right thread but....

1. Raz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Darlington Posts: 8766 Icelandic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS

   #1 4th September 2007, 15:44

   What can you do to a vtr engine to make it faster than a vts? Ive read alot of reviews and soem say it can be done, others say it cant?
   
   Was wondering as this might decide what i want in the future. If you can make it faster than a vts, then i would consider it more fun to mod?
   
   Cheers for your replies ( if i get any )
2. Tupps Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2006 Gym Posts: 15228 172 Cup

   #2 4th September 2007, 15:45

   Spend ALOT of money on it
3. AdamW Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jun 2004 Newtowntowntowntowntown Posts: 17562 Civic Type R EP3

   #3 4th September 2007, 15:45

   Be a waste of money IMO.......
   
   Turbo it
   Cams
   TB's
   
   turn fog lights on
4. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

   #4 4th September 2007, 15:45

   Induction, Manifold, Full exhaust system, Decat, Cams, Remap
5. rey Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Kent Posts: 8205 :(s)rac

   #5 4th September 2007, 15:46

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by AdamW turn fog lights on

   
   best and most simple power mod you can do
6. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

   #6 4th September 2007, 15:46

   better to throw your money at a VTS engine tbh.
7. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

   #7 4th September 2007, 16:08

   Its possible but will cost a bit of money..
   
   It makes sense to spend the money on a VTS engine..But do what you want to do..
   
   I was going to build a VTS engie into something abit special but dcided to use the 1400 as a base instead..
8. Raz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Darlington Posts: 8766 Icelandic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS

   #8 4th September 2007, 16:13

   Just some of the reviews i was reading suggested it could be done, would you find it more interesting to mod it that way?
   
   The reason i said a vtr to a vts, it pretty much insurance. So if i modded a vtr to match or possibly better a standard vts, then it be more fun, less on insurance to start with etc....
9. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

   #9 4th September 2007, 16:18

   Yeah..My 1400 i am hoping to make it as quick as an S...
   
   Not all about power though..Light flywheel, less weight and close gearbox is whats needed aswell..
10. Scottp Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor

    #10 4th September 2007, 16:24

    After modding your vtr it might be more expensive than the vts on insurance
    
    Can a vtr be made faster yes of course it can. Do the same to the vts though are your right back to square one again.
11. Raz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Darlington Posts: 8766 Icelandic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS

    #11 4th September 2007, 16:26

    vts is about 120 BHP isnt it? (stock)
    
    vtr is about 98 BHP stock.
    
    how much are we talking about then to make it faster than and 's' without buying a vts?
12. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #12 4th September 2007, 16:28

    Cam-£235 (based on a piper cam)
    Manifold-£170-£250+
    Light flywheel-£60
    Remap-£200-£500
    
    The list goes on tbh..
13. Raz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Darlington Posts: 8766 Icelandic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS

    #13 4th September 2007, 16:30

    would you save the money and do it to the vts?
14. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #14 4th September 2007, 16:30

    VTS engine is about £500 for a nice one..
    
    Then spend that money on a VTS engine and you will have a monster tbh!!
15. Raz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Darlington Posts: 8766 Icelandic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS

    #15 4th September 2007, 16:34

    how fast can you get a vts? all modded and that?
    
    as you can tell, i kno f**k all about cars.......for now
16. Scottp Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor

    #16 4th September 2007, 16:40

    How much can you afford is a better question rather than how fast. Fast is limited by your wallet
17. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #17 4th September 2007, 16:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Scott How much can you afford is a better question rather than how fast. Fast is limited by your wallet

    Very true..
    
    Also note that its very well and good building something special, but you have to be able to run it too..
18. rey Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Kent Posts: 8205 :(s)rac

    #18 4th September 2007, 16:43

    and think im right in saying, if you want top end, then a good VTS engine with a VTR 'box is the way forward