16v engine work

1. Maxwell Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Turin, Italy Posts: 2238 Fiesta ST-2, Saxo VTS ph2

   #1 10th September 2007, 20:48

   ryt i have just bought a 106 gti engine with valves bent in the head...got it cheap so dont slabber at me lol
   
   i was thinking of doing a load of work to it and doing the engine swap with my current vts engine!!
   
   my current vts engine is forced inducted, chipped, skimmed, ported, polished and has 4 branch n system.
   
   so wot could i do to new engine, to make my wee car go better!!!!!??????
2. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

   #2 10th September 2007, 20:51

   so you want to start from scratch? whats you budget>?
3. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #3 10th September 2007, 20:53

   ultimately where you want to end up depends on your budget. A works rallye C2 head with some nice cams and standalone would be very nice indeed...
4. Maxwell Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Turin, Italy Posts: 2238 Fiesta ST-2, Saxo VTS ph2

   #4 10th September 2007, 20:55

   well it will be built as i go along, so a reasonable price, without going too mad i.e turboing, supercharging and t.bs!!
   
   just raw engine work, but most power i can get...and i mean cams and heavy n/a work!!
5. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #5 10th September 2007, 20:55

   cams, forged pistons, a decent ecu map (NOT A CHIP)
6. vtr130 Established Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 2279

   #6 10th September 2007, 21:32

   Wot ryan said NO CHIP!!
7. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #7 10th September 2007, 22:09

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by vtr130 Wot ryan said NO CHIP!!

   unless your having cod with it.
8. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

   #8 11th September 2007, 08:05

   From your first post, it sounds like you've already had a lot done to your current lump. So is it super charged or Turbo charged?
9. Maxwell Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Turin, Italy Posts: 2238 Fiesta ST-2, Saxo VTS ph2

   #9 11th September 2007, 16:36

   well is there anything more i can do to my current one then???
   
   mayb cams, ecu remapped and power boost valve??
10. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #10 11th September 2007, 18:29

    stop with the powerboost valves.
    
    theyre just an adjustable fuel pressure reguator, you dont need one, they can actually cause more problems if played about with and not set up right.
11. Dibz Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 240 106 GTi

    #11 11th September 2007, 23:29

    Quote:

    A works rallye C2 head with some nice cams and standalone would be very nice indeed...

    Where from and how much..?!
12. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #12 12th September 2007, 07:40

    £1400 .. from us. We get them made to order by Citroen Sport. An essential part in getting the C2 to over 180bhp in rally spec. Not cheap but its done right and works!
13. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #13 12th September 2007, 12:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing £1400 .. from us. We get them made to order by Citroen Sport. An essential part in getting the C2 to over 180bhp in rally spec. Not cheap but its done right and works!

    C2 r2 spec graham?
14. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #14 12th September 2007, 14:31

    Thats the one.
15. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #15 12th September 2007, 14:57

    £1400?
    
    Bargain. That's cheaper than the R2 manifold (which is FG)
    
    That's almost certainly cheaper than a VTS head.
    
    That price exchange?
16. Dibz Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 240 106 GTi

    #16 12th September 2007, 15:26

    Quote:

    £1400 .. from us

    Ouch..! Like you said would be worth it if you wanted 180bhp and had throttle bodies but doubt you'd see much gains with just cams...
17. jeeves_101 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2007 Weston-S-Mare Posts: 3713 Racing Bronze Mazda MX-5

    #17 12th September 2007, 15:44

    does the C2 R2 head fit straight on to a vts block?
18. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #18 12th September 2007, 16:12

    Yes. You'll need to tap the head though to fit the plastic inlet from the VTS. That said, if you're blowing 1400 on the head then TBs are a pretty good move.
19. jeeves_101 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2007 Weston-S-Mare Posts: 3713 Racing Bronze Mazda MX-5

    #19 12th September 2007, 16:13

    would be a crime not to fit TB's to a head like that.
20. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #20 12th September 2007, 16:28

    Well, depending on race regs, I've seen a load of C" Rally cars with stnard inlets, that's the way they restrict power and costs
21. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #21 13th September 2007, 03:42

    DIY turbo setup and megasquirt, youc an learn a lot and it'll be relatively cheap. unless it goes BANG when you start it.