How i fitted the Raceland induction kit...Guide

1. banx22 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 138 Mint red 99 VTR

   #1 15th September 2007, 17:48

   There seems to be alot of people asking how to fit this kit at the moment.
   
   The kit itself is excellent quality and with the green upgrade from Kamracing is well worth it.
   
   As it comes with no fitting instructions or brackets to fit alot of people seem to have a problem getting it to fit correctly.
   
   It took me a while as well but after fannying around i managed to get it to fit absolutley bang on.
   
   The pictures below show how i went about fitting it to my Mk1 silvertop VTR.
   
   Enjoy!.
   
   Front pracket attached to slam panel
   
   
   Bracket for the front. See how it is attached to the slam panel. I used an exsiting hole and the thread from the original induction system.
   
   
   Middle bracket. it is attached to where the original induction system bracket was located
   
   
   Middle bracket again
   
   
   Powersteering Bottle relocation. I used the bracket that comes with the raceland kit for this.
   
   
   Powersteering bottle bracket again, so you can see how it is attachd to the alarm siren.
   
   
   Throttle body attachement. i used some of the OEM induction system pipe (the corregated part) as it allows the pipe to move with the engine when you are on and off the throttle. This stops the induction system being broken at the slam panel. This seems to be a common problem with this type of induction kit, using this bit of pipe stops that.
   
   
   The system fitted
   
   
   The brackets i made from bits that i found just laying around my garage. It wasn't very difficult to get them into the right shape. a big hammer and constantly checking to make sure they fitted correctly. I had to twist them so that they located correctly on the induction kit (i used a set of pliers but i really wish i had a workbench clamp!). I also used a grinder to cut away some of the bracket where it was fouling on the induction kit. Took about 1 hour to do this. I could have tidied them up a bit and made them sit a bit flatter but to be honest they work fine like they are now and there is no need to do it now its fitted.
   
   I should really make another bracket to attach to the other side of the induction kit at the front but the other brackets are very stiff and hold it just where i want it. It has about a 2cm gap from the top of the radiator so no danger of it melting.
2. SaxoOllY Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 129 1.6 Pug 306. Saxoo VTR

   #2 15th September 2007, 19:16

   Very Good guide!
   
   
   But do you have to have the extra pipe to go from the kit to the Throttle body, doesnt it come with something that connexts the two?
   Thanks OllY
3. OLLYVTS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 West Sussex . Posts: 5690 Subaru Impreza Wrx

   #3 15th September 2007, 19:18

   Good guide there mate im sure this will help a few people out.
   Raceland looks good to.
4. banx22 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 138 Mint red 99 VTR

   #4 15th September 2007, 20:00

   Olly,
   
   It comes with some rubber tubing that is just a little bit to short.
   
   I used some of the original OEM induction system tubing because it was just what i needed for the job and i didn't want to go splashing out on some silicone hose for the sake of a few centimeters of pipe.
   
   Basically i cut some off the rubber tubing that comes with the kit and attached it to the throttle body then attached the OEM pipe to the rubber bit, then attached that to the other half of the rubber tube. I then attached the whole thing to the metal induction tube from the enclosed bit.
5. Anders0n Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 1017

   #5 15th September 2007, 20:02

   Great guide mate! 1 Question:
   
   Where the silver tubing meets the filter (inside the scoop) did you have to put a jubilee clip on it to keep it secure?
6. banx22 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 138 Mint red 99 VTR

   #6 15th September 2007, 20:06

   there are 4 clips on it.
   
   1 - At the throttle body to keep it attached.
   2 - On the bit of rubber tubing that attaches the OEM pipe to the rubber bit on the throttle body.
   3 - On the OEM pipe to attach it to the other half of the rubber pipe.
   4 - On the rubber pipe to attach it to the metal tube from the enclosed part.
   
   I definatley needed all 4 as i didn't want to be checking it all the time to make sure that it was all still connected properly. this way once they are all fastened up tight you can leave it alone.
7. banx22 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 138 Mint red 99 VTR

   #7 15th September 2007, 20:07

   And to answer your original question. yes. i used the hose clip to secure it onto the tube inside the scoop
8. Wayne Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2007 Powys Posts: 15348 Icelandtic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS 53 Turbo

   #8 15th September 2007, 20:53

   very helpful and good guide raceland induction kit looks nice
9. SaxoOllY Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 129 1.6 Pug 306. Saxoo VTR

   #9 15th September 2007, 21:11

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by banx22 Olly, It comes with some rubber tubing that is just a little bit to short. I used some of the original OEM induction system tubing because it was just what i needed for the job and i didn't want to go splashing out on some silicone hose for the sake of a few centimeters of pipe. Basically i cut some off the rubber tubing that comes with the kit and attached it to the throttle body then attached the OEM pipe to the rubber bit, then attached that to the other half of the rubber tube. I then attached the whole thing to the metal induction tube from the enclosed bit.

   Brilliant! Thanks for the help. Very aprishiated!
10. Anders0n Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 1017

    #10 15th September 2007, 21:20

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by banx22 And to answer your original question. yes. i used the hose clip to secure it onto the tube inside the scoop

    Cheers mate, you've been a great help. Repped!
11. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

    #11 15th September 2007, 21:32

    have u rigged the crank case breather up 2 it? cant realy see in the pics
12. 355858 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Norwich Posts: 730 Saxo VTR Mk2 Wicked Red - Suzuki jimny soft top

    #12 15th September 2007, 21:33

    steve is it best to do that or put a breather filter on it?
13. gordy43 L-plater Joined: Nov 2006 liverpool Posts: 32 saxo vtr an clio

    #13 16th September 2007, 09:07

    nice thread mate ive just got mine an this is a big help cos i didnt realy have a clue
14. Mark51p Super Moderator Joined: Sep 2006 Wakefield Posts: 14427 Golf GT

    #14 16th September 2007, 09:42

    i thought that if you bolted it to the slam panel then with the movement of the engine it scracked the casing?
15. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #15 16th September 2007, 09:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 355858 steve is it best to do that or put a breather filter on it?

    i can just about see it in the pic it should be ok as long as it doesnt come off, you dont want any crap getting in
16. Mark51p Super Moderator Joined: Sep 2006 Wakefield Posts: 14427 Golf GT

    #16 16th September 2007, 09:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 355858 steve is it best to do that or put a breather filter on it?

    imo some rubber piping would be a safer beat than using the original piping.
17. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #17 16th September 2007, 14:44

    good guide, now the big question have you noticed a difference in performance that is the question to be answered.
    
    BTW on ebay you can now get these without vts vtr in them just carbon look
18. Jazz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 West Sussex Posts: 7566 CLS63 AMG

    #18 16th September 2007, 14:53

    Top guide mate, just got the same Raceland/Green for my S, haven't fitted it yet but this week going to hopefully get stuck in and do it (just after I have it on the rollers totally standard)
19. banx22 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 138 Mint red 99 VTR

    #19 16th September 2007, 21:05

    Steve.
    
    The crank case breather has been cable tied out of the way with a breather filter on it. I followed the pipe and it seemed to be connected to the inlet manifold, it was sucking in air not blowing it out so i figured that it would be better to suck in its own air rather than from the induction system. if yo mean the rocker cover / oil breather pipe then that is plumbed back into the induction system.
    
    Mark,
    
    If the pipe that attached to the throttle body was stiffer, that wouldn't move with the engine, the whole induction system would, hence why they crack at the slam panel as usually that is where they are attached to the car other than the throttle body. With the pipe being flexible on mine only the pipe will move about with the engine, not the induction kit, therfore no cracking at the slam panel as no stress is being put on it.
    
    Performance wise. yes you can notice it. It pulls better lower down the rev range and feels a bit less restricted. It is not a massive difference by any means but you can certainly tell that it is better than the OEM system. also the sound under hard acceleration is much deeper, not boomy though.
20. Gixerjim1000 Newbie Joined: Aug 2007 Belper, Derbyshire Posts: 16 Citroen Saxo VTR and a Puegeot 307sw and a suzuki

    #20 23rd September 2007, 13:28

    Hi there, just purchase one of these babys formy vtr, seems straight forward but what the hell doyou do with thehose from the idle actuator?? as this fits onto the original hosing like the rocker cover breather and this kit has no fitting for it.
    HELP!!!!
21. banx22 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 138 Mint red 99 VTR

    #21 24th September 2007, 12:47

    I just put a breather filter on it and cable tied it out of the way. It sucks air in so their is no need for it to be on the induction system.
    
    Just make sure that you put a filter on it. You don't want any particles going into it as if its not on the induction system then it is sucking in un-filtered air straight into the induction manifold which could cause some damage to the engine. only need a cheap one. I picked on up from halfruads for £8.
22. Morgan_VTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Bristol/Bucks Posts: 2931 N3CNM 8v y0¬!

    #22 14th November 2007, 19:37

    where have the pics gone?
23. Hopcraft Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 Northampton Posts: 5957 ED30

    #23 15th November 2007, 12:43

    can some one put a new guide up, im wanting to know this too, the vtr one to a mark 2 would be helpful
24. Morgan_VTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Bristol/Bucks Posts: 2931 N3CNM 8v y0¬!

    #24 16th November 2007, 16:28

    anyone? Just need to pictures as Im going to attempt to fit mine on sunday!
25. Oroblram Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Glossop, Derbyshire Posts: 274 Renault Clio 200 Cup

    #25 16th November 2007, 21:48

    I'm going to try fitting mine tomorrow, I seem to be missing some metal bits to hold in in place thou?
26. Hopcraft Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 Northampton Posts: 5957 ED30

    #26 17th November 2007, 17:29

    put some pics up of how you 'tried' then !
27. user_8040 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2005 MaDchester Posts: 8432 Vts

    #27 17th November 2007, 18:14

    pics have gone , i want to know how this fits on a vts
28. Hopcraft Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 Northampton Posts: 5957 ED30

    #28 17th November 2007, 18:43

    theres getting some demand now !
29. Oroblram Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Glossop, Derbyshire Posts: 274 Renault Clio 200 Cup

    #29 17th November 2007, 20:45

    Did not get chance to fit it today, will try in the morning.
    
    I need some kind of brackets by the look of it, for nearly £100 I would at least expect some kind of instructions, and at least all the right parts to fit it..
30. Barkham Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2007 Essex Posts: 464 Zetec S

    #30 17th November 2007, 20:55

    pictures arnt working anymore
31. Morgan_VTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Bristol/Bucks Posts: 2931 N3CNM 8v y0¬!

    #31 17th November 2007, 23:39

    I really need this aswell.
    
    Weather permitting me and me padre are going to have a go at fitting it tomorrow, if it goes well Ill post pics.
32. jablitt Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 leciester United Kingdom (England) Posts: 720 Westie, Clio 172

    #32 25th November 2007, 15:12

    could do with having the pictures back. seems like its be a good guide with them!
33. hard_corejoeboy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Southend, Essex/Thetford, Norfolk Posts: 4203 Seat Mii Toca/VW Polo Gti 6c 1.8 turbo

    #33 2nd December 2007, 17:36

    Yeah pics plz!
34. djrem Saxperience Addict Joined: Feb 2007 Ramsden Bellhouse (Billericay) Posts: 12826 Various.

    #34 2nd December 2007, 20:36

    erm, is it me or are the pictures not working?
35. hard_corejoeboy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Southend, Essex/Thetford, Norfolk Posts: 4203 Seat Mii Toca/VW Polo Gti 6c 1.8 turbo

    #35 2nd December 2007, 23:26

    
36. hard_corejoeboy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Southend, Essex/Thetford, Norfolk Posts: 4203 Seat Mii Toca/VW Polo Gti 6c 1.8 turbo

    #36 3rd December 2007, 12:45

    
37. Oroblram Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Glossop, Derbyshire Posts: 274 Renault Clio 200 Cup

    #37 3rd December 2007, 15:31

    
38. kraigleeder Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2007 peterborough Posts: 851 citroen saxo VTS 16v baby

    #38 4th December 2007, 09:56

    pictures would be nice
    
39. banx22 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 138 Mint red 99 VTR

    #39 5th December 2007, 11:11

    The pictures have been deleted from my photobucket account so they won't show up anymore.
    
    The kit is quite straighforward to fit, just that you really need to have some brackets made so that you can stop it from resting on the top of the radiator.
    
    It can only be fitted on way so you can't go wrong really.
    
    To be honest the kit made no difference what so ever to the performance of the VTR. it sounded nice but other than that nothing.
40. Hopcraft Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 Northampton Posts: 5957 ED30

    #40 5th December 2007, 13:33

    other people have said different though..
    
    can you not upload the pics back up ? its slightly different fitting to a mk2 i think too.
41. johnnyg_vts Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Fleetwood Posts: 2244 2002 Saxo VTS

    #41 5th December 2007, 14:58

    please put the pics up again!
42. Modified Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Chesham Posts: 2911 Golf MK4 GTi 20v Turbo - BLAP BLAP

    #42 5th December 2007, 15:47

    yeah put the pics back up please!!!
43. Oroblram Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Glossop, Derbyshire Posts: 274 Renault Clio 200 Cup

    #43 5th December 2007, 15:51

    
44. Wayne Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2007 Powys Posts: 15348 Icelandtic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS 53 Turbo

    #44 5th December 2007, 16:50

    pictures would be best as everyone will know how to fit it then.
45. dan_87 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Stockton on Tees Posts: 436 MK2 VTR

    #45 5th December 2007, 19:06

    good guide mate cheers....pics please???
46. vtrlogan Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 Ely~ Posts: 4591 Mantis Blue VTR

    #46 5th December 2007, 19:24

    good guide wish i could use it CANT FIND A CHEAP MANIFOLD lol.
47. pritchard9025 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2007 south wales Posts: 361 clio sport 182/vtr track car

    #47 5th December 2007, 19:57

    good thread m8
48. djrem Saxperience Addict Joined: Feb 2007 Ramsden Bellhouse (Billericay) Posts: 12826 Various.

    #48 5th December 2007, 23:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pritchard9025 good thread m8

    how? theres no pictures
49. Hopcraft Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 Northampton Posts: 5957 ED30

    #49 6th December 2007, 10:35

    the demand for this guide or another guide is un'canny, surely some one must be able to put us sax-pers out of our misery
50. Oroblram Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Glossop, Derbyshire Posts: 274 Renault Clio 200 Cup

    #50 6th December 2007, 10:45

    
51. dan_87 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Stockton on Tees Posts: 436 MK2 VTR

    #51 6th December 2007, 12:46

    any chance of pics, c'mon you know you want to...
52. Hopcraft Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 Northampton Posts: 5957 ED30

    #52 14th December 2007, 13:12

    bumping this up, as i still wanna see pics, or get a guide from someone else !
53. Oroblram Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Glossop, Derbyshire Posts: 274 Renault Clio 200 Cup

    #53 14th December 2007, 13:29

    OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
54. Streetdragster Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 142 BMW E39 M5

    #54 25th December 2007, 00:16

    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=118619
    
    
55. Oroblram Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Glossop, Derbyshire Posts: 274 Renault Clio 200 Cup

    #55 25th December 2007, 00:23

    You sir are a god
56. Streetdragster Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 142 BMW E39 M5

    #56 25th December 2007, 11:44

    We aim to please
    
    Matt