Saxo Super 1600 Engine

1. tommievo Newbie Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 5

   #1 29th November 2004, 11:10

   hi anyone knows how citroen sports deliver almost 210 hps from a 1.6 16v engine?...im doing a project to take a saxo vts and transform it to a super 1600, i need all your help thanks
2. need4speed L-plater Joined: Nov 2004 STAFFORDSHIRE United Kingdom (England) Posts: 31

   #2 29th November 2004, 19:30

   alright mate,
   there probley runnin either a turbo or supercharger conversion. 200+bhp easily achievable. plannin on turbo chargin my vts, quoted 240bhp about 190bhp at the wheels costin £5000+ inc fittin.
   Depends how big ur budget is, im lookin at spendin around £8000
   you can get up 2 170bhp with chip,cams,exhaust, manifold etc but big power you need either a turbo or supercharger conversion.
3. Smithy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2004 Forest of Dean United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3747 Fabia VRS

   #3 29th November 2004, 22:08

   I always thought the Super 1600 was naturally aspirated. Work on the cylinder head, cams, throttle body, manifold, air box, exhaust, etc. Then all the transmission, suspension, etc, etc.
4. tommievo Newbie Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 5

   #4 29th November 2004, 22:37

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Smithy I always thought the Super 1600 was naturally aspirated. Work on the cylinder head, cams, throttle body, manifold, air box, exhaust, etc. Then all the transmission, suspension, etc, etc.

   actually they are aspirated....but my question is if anyone knows WHAT or HOW they modify the engine.....
5. Smithy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2004 Forest of Dean United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3747 Fabia VRS

   #5 29th November 2004, 23:46

   Cituning do a conversion to convert the car to Super 1600 spec. Have a look on their website.
6. Scottp Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor

   #6 30th November 2004, 02:12

   i though the super 1600 was N/A as well smithy
7. user_3656 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2004 Herts. N/W London Posts: 13578 Project MK4 MoreDoor

   #7 30th November 2004, 04:16

   It is Im sure it is !!
   Mission find out... LOL
8. jayxx83 Newbie Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 5

   #8 1st December 2004, 23:27

   look on the cituning website, www.lefrancaisconnection.com, the super conversion is about £75,000 or something like that.
9. Smithy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2004 Forest of Dean United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3747 Fabia VRS

   #9 6th December 2004, 01:00

   According to Citunings catalogue the following is done to the car:
   
   CHASSIS
   
   Bodyshell reinforced with welded in roll cage prepared by Matter
   Bodykit - bumpers, wings, rear spoiler etc
   Engine undertray
   
   ENGINE
   
   Engine kit - cylinder head, cams, moving parts
   Throttle body kit and manifold, airbox assembly
   Engine computer
   Exhaust
   Engine mounts
   
   TRANSMISSION
   
   Twin plate clutch
   6 - speed sequential gearbox
   Limited slip final drive with ratio 12 x 68
   Set of driveshafts
   
   SUSPENSION
   
   Steering rack
   Shocks
   Rear torsion bars
   Front and rear anti-roll bars
   Front brake discs and 4 pot calipers
   Master cylinder
   Hydraulic handbrake
   Brake pads and hoses
   Special pedal unit with front/rear adjustable braking distribution
   Rear brake discs and 2 pot calipers
   Rear track chocks
   7" x 17" rims
   
   Yours for a measly £76,250 + VAT
   
10. user_3656 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2004 Herts. N/W London Posts: 13578 Project MK4 MoreDoor

    #10 6th December 2004, 03:54

    only ..... Not bad!!
11. Dave_J_UK Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2004 Wrexham United Kingdom (Wales) Posts: 583

    #11 6th December 2004, 04:05

    I'll have 2!
12. tommievo Newbie Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 5

    #12 11th December 2004, 12:09

    thanks to all of you!! .... a lot!
13. Ripper3 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2003 London United Kingdom (England) Posts: 865

    #13 11th December 2004, 14:36

    Yea, it is N/A, cos S1600 class cars rnt allowed to b aspirated, no turbos, no superchargers.
    Yea, if anyone of us happens to have £76k, buy the kit to get the Saxo converted, and tell us what it's like
    So mate, wot u goin for? U lookin for turbo i guess to acheive that power.
14. Andy_OZ Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 Jersey Posts: 222 Saxo VTR 2003

    #14 1st June 2008, 14:20

    you could buy a lambo!
    
    that is insane money! i take i tthat it full wrc spec?
    
    what about spares!!!!!
15. Raz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Darlington Posts: 8766 Icelandic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS

    #15 1st June 2008, 14:27

    talk about bumping up an old thread!
    
    76k is mad...but if you consider the ammount the current WRC cars are worth...seems a steal (Ford Focus WRC i believe cost something like 250k)
    
    N/A imo is the best for a car to go if planning to mod the engine...
16. Andy_OZ Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 Jersey Posts: 222 Saxo VTR 2003

    #16 1st June 2008, 14:40

    2008 WRC cars are worth €750k.
    
    this is brand new out of the box as Loeb would use!
    
    this is why in 2010 WRC is moving to Group N, banning the use of alot of the electronics and exotic materials such as carbon fibre and titanuim.
    
    FIA are hoping to reduce the cost of privatire entry by 30% in order to see more teams envoled in it.
    
    S. Loeb has said he reckons he can still hit the same times in a grou n!
    
    only thing i cant grasp is will the body styling look more like what you buy in the showroom??
    
    because the c4 looks nothing like the one in the motormalL!!!!!!
17. Mini-valver Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 343

    #17 1st June 2008, 15:43

    I think they are restricted to one throttle body and the size of it too, not 100% though.
18. AlexR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2004 Kunt & Sorrey Posts: 5763 Rep mobiles & Joes ma

    #18 1st June 2008, 15:45

    Yeah i know it's been dredged, some of the original posts are such bollocks from clueless muppets, oh how this forum has come along in 4 years lol
19. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #19 1st June 2008, 16:16

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexR Yeah i know it's been dredged, some of the original posts are such bollocks from clueless muppets, oh how this forum has come along in 4 years lol

    lol. you being one who used to take the mick
20. Sean Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec

    #20 1st June 2008, 16:37

    dredge ahoy