GTi Conversion-what BHP?

1. saxo2005 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2006 devon United Kingdom (England) Posts: 214 Saxo VTR/VTS Hybrid

   #1 22nd September 2007, 17:00

   Hey guys
   
   Just in process of getting GTI/VTS conv on my vtr, what BHP would i be expecting on following:
   
   2002 GTI/VTS engine, full strip and re-build (blueprinted).. 4-2-1 manifold, full stainless system, green enclosed filter.. thanks..
   
   Also, ive just bought rallye box, company is fitting this.. will i see much improved acceleration over VTS box?..
   
   Cheers
2. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #2 22nd September 2007, 17:03

   My guestimate 135bhp
3. Ste Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 5415 Saxo

   #3 22nd September 2007, 18:38

   I think the S has accel on a par with the Rallye iirc....
   
   
   Just out of curiousity how much are you being charged for the conv? excluding parts?
4. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #4 22nd September 2007, 18:54

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Ste_1 I think the S has accel on a par with the Rallye iirc.... Just out of curiousity how much are you being charged for the conv? excluding parts?

   
   rallye has totally different final drive to vts.
   
   fitted an s2 box to my mates vts, could feel a difference.
5. saxo2005 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2006 devon United Kingdom (England) Posts: 214 Saxo VTR/VTS Hybrid

   #5 22nd September 2007, 19:11

   cheers ppl.. yea id been told the rallye box will give me better acceleration but the top end will be affected.. but i wasnt too worried bout top end..
   
   Not sure what fitting is costing on its own, my total bill is £3400-00 inc vat all in.. thats for following: -
   
   2002 gti lump- totally stripped and rebuilt (blue printed)
   rallye g/box inc sports clutch
   4-2-1 manifold
   green enclosed ind kit
   spax coilovers
   Big brake kit
   
   cheers
6. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #6 22nd September 2007, 19:13

   no point in spax coilovers imo. can get better suspension kits for cheaper money
7. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

   #7 22nd September 2007, 19:16

   and whats big brake kit. can get better again if you mean larger discs, standard calipers
8. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #8 22nd September 2007, 19:20

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by bullit and whats big brake kit. can get better again if you mean larger discs, standard calipers

   you want bigger pistons/more pistons to have a better braking set up imo.
   
   283mm 2 piece disks and 4 pistons for the win in my case
9. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

   #9 22nd September 2007, 19:27

   Series 1 or 2 rallye box? Makes a big difference...
10. saxo2005 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2006 devon United Kingdom (England) Posts: 214 Saxo VTR/VTS Hybrid

    #10 22nd September 2007, 19:28

    not totally sure what make brake kit is, its not standard calipers.. Kit is larger discs uprated pads and different calipers.. All i know is they are the same as the guy uses on his 106 gti rally car and they cost £850-00..
    
    What would you have suggested in regards to coilovers?.. just out of interest like cos ive already got and supplied him the spax ones.
    
    cheers
11. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #11 22nd September 2007, 19:30

    dont see a point imo on a coilover kit, as the saxo only has 2 struts, so you dont have em all round, personally id just go for a set of billies with decent springs.
12. saxo2005 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2006 devon United Kingdom (England) Posts: 214 Saxo VTR/VTS Hybrid

    #12 22nd September 2007, 20:10

    Oh well never mind got the coilovers now!.. think its a s2 box, but dont quote me onit.. the guys who are doing it are peugeot rally specialists so they'd be fitting whats best..
    
    Any other small performance mods worth doin while engines stripped down?
13. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #13 22nd September 2007, 20:15

    whos doin the work mate?
14. saxo2005 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2006 devon United Kingdom (England) Posts: 214 Saxo VTR/VTS Hybrid

    #14 22nd September 2007, 20:31

    TJH Motorsport in North Devon.. Big into motorsports, have rally team and are involved in Civic and Clio cup racing..
15. the-f-ing-king Newbie Joined: Sep 2007 Essex/Benfleet Posts: 13 me car saxo vtr

    #15 25th September 2007, 17:10

    so hows the car now? all done is it??