B AND M Quick shift

1. Saxo4Life Newbie Joined: Sep 2007 Cardiff, Wales Posts: 15 Saxo VTR 1.6 8V 02 Plate

   #1 25th September 2007, 17:00

   i want to get a quick shift kit for my vtr saxo but how easy are these to fit?? as i have very little time to tinker with my car due to work and girlfriend etc... so is it a 30 min job?? cherrs saxo4life
2. Mysticp Scotland Joined: Jul 2005 Edinburgh Posts: 9556 Saxo 1.6i 16v VTS, 2 Classic Minis

   #2 25th September 2007, 17:10

   They are very quick if you have all the tools you will need. Should take no more than an hour at most. Took me probably 30 mins to do including jacking the car up.
   
   Off the top of my head you need a jack, axel stand, t40 torx bit & a hacksaw.
   
   Your girlfriend will probably slate you for having a gearknob which saws BUM though, mine laughs at me everytime i touch it
3. Paulp Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2007 Lancashire Posts: 14256 Astra VXR + 1989 Astra GTE

   #3 25th September 2007, 20:26

   Theres a guide on these forums/website. Have a search/look around.
   
   Im also after one but dont dare trying to fit it myself. So i'd have to pay a fortune to get someone to do it for me :o
4. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #4 25th September 2007, 21:54

   here is my scan of the instructions
   
   piece of piss to fit
   
   
5. leeK9 Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 letterkenny,donegal,ireland Posts: 1338 citroen saxo VTS

   #5 25th September 2007, 22:06

   could you fit a griffith and a B&M
   because i know that the griffith is put near the gearbox but not sure where the B&M goes
6. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #6 25th September 2007, 22:09

   the B&M reduces the throw by 25%. About perfect IMO
7. leeK9 Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 letterkenny,donegal,ireland Posts: 1338 citroen saxo VTS

   #7 25th September 2007, 22:15

   but could you combine both for a mega short shift?
8. PRICEY-VTS Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2006 sunny sunderland Posts: 705 jdm honda civic type-r

   #8 25th September 2007, 22:41

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by my_vtech_eater but could you combine both for a mega short shift?

   dont think so like
9. djmartin Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 Near Hull Posts: 8405 BMW 3.0 X3,toyota mr2 & Skyline R33

   #9 25th September 2007, 22:52

   hmmm i dont think id want to try that out tbh lol more parts that could fail on a saxo bahahahaha.
   
   
   just put one on or the other
   
   I havea B&M and its awesome no slack gearknob anymore and nice strong shifts.
10. GrantW Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Near Glasgow Posts: 3362 None...

    #10 25th September 2007, 23:14

    What is the difference between the Griffiths and the B&M?
11. djmartin Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 Near Hull Posts: 8405 BMW 3.0 X3,toyota mr2 & Skyline R33

    #11 26th September 2007, 00:08

    B&M proper quickshift lol
    
    Griffiths is a poor mans B&M lol
12. vipergfx Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2006 Washington Posts: 3117 veeteeess

    #12 26th September 2007, 00:13

    The B+M is piss easy to fit, its just a fanny on removing the heat-shields beneath the car, and putting them back on.
    
    the difference is the quality, essentially do the same thing; although with the b+m its a proper kit
    
    plus you get stickers!
13. GrantW Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Near Glasgow Posts: 3362 None...

    #13 26th September 2007, 00:22

    What do you mean a proper kit?
    
    I dont like the gearknob etc with the B&M, would rather keep my gti knob lol
14. vipergfx Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2006 Washington Posts: 3117 veeteeess

    #14 26th September 2007, 00:30

    im sure the gti knob can be bodged on to fit tbh, i agree it does look wank!
    
    i quite enjoyed fiddling with it in traffic though, spinning the B+M cap around lol.
    
    proper kit, as in the linkage, lube, knob, stick etc..
    
    the griffiths is just a bracket iirc. i've never fitted one, but i went for the b+m cause of their reputation.
    
    although for £24 or whatever delivered for the griffiths that could be the more plausable option
15. GrantW Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Near Glasgow Posts: 3362 None...

    #15 26th September 2007, 00:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vipergfx im sure the gti knob can be bodged on to fit tbh, i agree it does look wank! i quite enjoyed fiddling with it in traffic though, spinning the B+M cap around lol. proper kit, as in the linkage, lube, knob, stick etc.. the griffiths is just a bracket iirc. i've never fitted one, but i went for the b+m cause of their reputation. although for £24 or whatever delivered for the griffiths that could be the more plausable option

    Dont fancy bodging it lol
    
    You enjoy fiddling with your knob in traffic often then?
    
    24 quid is what im thinking, skint student
16. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

    #16 26th September 2007, 00:35

    aye B&M could be fitted in an hour, took me about hour and half to fit mine, which included taking front bumper off and rolling it up the ramps, fitting it and putting bumper back on
17. vipergfx Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2006 Washington Posts: 3117 veeteeess

    #17 26th September 2007, 00:36

    depends if theres a fit lass stuck in traffic with me
    
    yeah skint student me too, i opted b+m and it was great though, don't get the floppy knob syndrome saxo's come with, and the changes are a lot firmer.
    
    nice mod
    
    www.griffiths-engineering.co.uk is the link for griffiths, and kam www.kam-racing.com has a group buy on for the b+m
18. GrantW Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Near Glasgow Posts: 3362 None...

    #18 26th September 2007, 00:42

    Will the Griffiths one tighten it up as well though?
    
    Dont understand how one is only 20 quid and the other is 86 lol
19. vipergfx Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2006 Washington Posts: 3117 veeteeess

    #19 26th September 2007, 00:44

    Yeah thats what its for, just a cheap alternative i think. does the same sort of job.
    
    i went for the b+m out of the two.. i can only comment on the b+m was great
    
    someone else will shed some light on the griffiths no doubt
20. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #20 26th September 2007, 09:39

    heard nothing but good things about Griffiths,
    does the same thing but with a standard gearstick/gearknob.
    
    Better if your a bit tight for cash tbh.
21. Simpson_Sax Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2006 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 185 Black Mk2 VTR

    #21 26th September 2007, 09:48

    Thinking about getting one myself but does it really tighten the gear lever up? mine is still wobbly when in gear and just feels like its going to come straight off. I had to replace a pin from the linkage last week as it snapped off lol
22. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #22 26th September 2007, 09:50

    change the linkages, think theyre about 12 quid from citroen iirc?
23. Simpson_Sax Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2006 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 185 Black Mk2 VTR

    #23 26th September 2007, 09:53

    Something like that yup. 2 other of my mates have got vtrs and all are the same including my old 1.1 so i would replace the linkages but citroen are known for dodgy feeling gears lol
24. Mysticp Scotland Joined: Jul 2005 Edinburgh Posts: 9556 Saxo 1.6i 16v VTS, 2 Classic Minis

    #24 26th September 2007, 09:55

    Yep, i hate the floppy stick so i decided to go the full whack and get a B&M, its reduced the flop a bit but theres still alot of flop there, uprated linkages are my next target.
25. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #25 26th September 2007, 09:55

    linkages and a shortshifter will resolve the problem. as Mystic said.
    
    Mine is toight, toight like a tiger, and I dont have a shortshifter.
26. Simpson_Sax Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2006 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 185 Black Mk2 VTR

    #26 26th September 2007, 09:58

    Sounds good will consider that mate. Linkages different or come in a standard size?
27. Mysticp Scotland Joined: Jul 2005 Edinburgh Posts: 9556 Saxo 1.6i 16v VTS, 2 Classic Minis

    #27 26th September 2007, 10:00

    Standard size for all saxos. Theres a group buy starting for some atm aswell i think! £35 for 10 or more orders iirc?
28. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #28 26th September 2007, 10:01

    standard size mate I believe as all saxo boxes are the same.
    
    Can buy uprated ones,
    but I just have brand new standard ones.
29. Simpson_Sax Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2006 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 185 Black Mk2 VTR

    #29 26th September 2007, 10:04

    Mint thats next on the list lol cheerz
30. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #30 26th September 2007, 10:06

    its always a let down having a floppy knob.
31. Mysticp Scotland Joined: Jul 2005 Edinburgh Posts: 9556 Saxo 1.6i 16v VTS, 2 Classic Minis

    #31 26th September 2007, 10:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Soulless its always a let down having a floppy knob.

    Bane of my life
32. Davidp Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Posts: 12553

    #32 26th September 2007, 11:38

    all this talk of quickshift makes me want one now tbh...
33. djmartin Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 Near Hull Posts: 8405 BMW 3.0 X3,toyota mr2 & Skyline R33

    #33 26th September 2007, 11:54

    get some group n linkages
    
    got them aswell as the quickshift and omg cant go wrong with it at all .
    
    think there £45 off ebay stainless steel and worth the money
34. Davidp Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Posts: 12553

    #34 26th September 2007, 12:07

    would these be any good..?
    
    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...75#post1492075
35. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #35 26th September 2007, 12:13

    do quickshifts really do that much?
    
    80 odd quid on a B+M...
    
    45 quid more and I could be seeing gains from a Manifold tbh