Gearbox crunches when cold

1. Vinny_VSX Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Bath/Warminster Posts: 2616 57 plate C2 VTS & a saxo 1.4

   #1 26th September 2007, 10:54

   It will only do it going from 2nd to 3rd but not 4th to 3rd, which is quite odd. Also once is has warmed up, it seems like it doesn't want to go into gear when I change up or down at a normal gear changing speed lol but when I change gear quite fast it seems to be fine. Setting off I am not having to revv the car a lot to get it moving and it doesn't slip out of gear. It has now done 90k miles, so will it require a rebuild?? Or just have the syncros/gear linkages looked at?
   
   Rep will be given
   
   Vince
2. makaveli144 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Burton Posts: 3661 Alfa Romeo GT

   #2 26th September 2007, 10:57

   May be the oil. It sounds like it as when the gearbox heats up the oil spreads more thinly so if you dont have enough it will spread very thin making it hard to get in gear as it isnt lubricated properly.
3. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

   #3 26th September 2007, 10:58

   Like your Sig Vince..
   
   Umm, most of them will crunch and be clunky when the engine is cold because the gearbox oil is also cold etc and takes abit of time for it to heat up..
   
   As for when its all warm and its getting stiff etc, get it looked at..Could be time for a new gearbox..
   
   Or as said above, top the oil up/change it..
4. makaveli144 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Burton Posts: 3661 Alfa Romeo GT

   #4 26th September 2007, 10:58

   A sign of linkages been worn is play in the gearstick, also get under the car and check that none have popped out and that there isnt much movement that shouldnt be there.
   
   And synchros I dont have a clue tbh.
5. Vinny_VSX Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Bath/Warminster Posts: 2616 57 plate C2 VTS & a saxo 1.4

   #5 26th September 2007, 10:59

   Ahhh yea didn't think of that. Where is the drain plug for the oil on a gearbox?
6. Vinny_VSX Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Bath/Warminster Posts: 2616 57 plate C2 VTS & a saxo 1.4

   #6 26th September 2007, 11:01

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by James_Bristol Like your Sig Vince.. Umm, most of them will crunch and be clunky when the engine is cold because the gearbox oil is also cold etc and takes abit of time for it to heat up.. As for when its all warm and its getting stiff etc, get it looked at..Could be time for a new gearbox..

   Haha, I thought you might like it bud .
   
   Yea true. But there is crunching and then there is CRUNCHING. Mine is the CRUNCHING, which is abit wank.
   
   Hmmm... I may have a quick look for a XSI box or if not a 1.1 .
7. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

   #7 26th September 2007, 11:02

   At the bottom of the box..Areound the area that the driveshaft comes out..
   
   Get a garage to do it mate, wont be much and just saves having to lie down on a fuking wet floor..lol
8. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

   #8 26th September 2007, 11:03

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Vinny_VSX Haha, I thought you might like it bud . Yea true. But there is crunching and then there is CRUNCHING. Mine is the CRUNCHING, which is abit wank. Hmmm... I may have a quick look for a XSI box or if not a 1.1 .

   Hmm..An oil change may do the trick..
   
   I didnt think the 1.1 box's made much difference..
   
   XSI box is the one you want!
9. makaveli144 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Burton Posts: 3661 Alfa Romeo GT

   #9 26th September 2007, 11:03

   Quote:

   Get a garage to do it mate, wont be much and just saves having to lie down on a fuking wet floor..lol

   lol, lazy arse
10. Vinny_VSX Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Bath/Warminster Posts: 2616 57 plate C2 VTS & a saxo 1.4

    #10 26th September 2007, 11:08

    My car will be up on ramps when the trackrod ends get done, so I may as well kill two birds with one stone and get the oil changed in the box. If that doesn't help, then XSI box or just save my money for the Berlingo haha
11. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #11 26th September 2007, 11:08

    Makaveli - lol
    
    Yep..
12. Vinny_VSX Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Bath/Warminster Posts: 2616 57 plate C2 VTS & a saxo 1.4

    #12 26th September 2007, 11:09

    My mate james is called makaveli, I have no idea why though lol
13. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #13 26th September 2007, 11:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vinny_VSX My mate james is called makaveli, I have no idea why though lol

    2 Pac FTW
14. makaveli144 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Burton Posts: 3661 Alfa Romeo GT

    #14 26th September 2007, 11:29

    Quote:

    2 Pac FTW

    It was years ago, now I use it for everything so I cant forget.
15. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #15 26th September 2007, 11:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by makaveli144 It was years ago, now I use it for everything so I cant forget any of my login things.

    2 Pac is a proper legend..Best rapper ever tbh!
16. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #16 26th September 2007, 12:20

    mine is opposite,
    my box squeaks when hot, lol.
17. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #17 26th September 2007, 12:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Soulless mine is opposite, my box squeaks when hot, lol.

    Thats because you need to grease the ball joint in the cabin..
18. R4T Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4630

    #18 26th September 2007, 12:43

    think james has covered everything in here!!!
19. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #19 26th September 2007, 12:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by R4T think james has covered everything in here!!!

    LOL
    
    
20. Ben_L Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 Billericay, Essex (England) Posts: 6774 1.1.1i, 2.Mk2 VTR 3.Astra SRI 150

    #20 27th September 2007, 10:59

    when are you supposed to change gearbox oil?
21. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #21 27th September 2007, 11:33

    how do i grease that badboy?
22. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #22 27th September 2007, 11:48

    Dont know..lol
    
    I just know thats what you need to do..
23. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #23 27th September 2007, 11:53

    Try changing the gear box oil
24. makaveli144 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Burton Posts: 3661 Alfa Romeo GT

    #24 27th September 2007, 11:59

    Quote:

    how do i grease that badboy?

    Remove the gearstick gaitor, remove the surround thing with the window buttons in. You have to pop the buttons out. Then you will see 4 torx screws or bolts (cant remember which)holding a white plate down that the gearstick goes into. loosen these but do not remove them completely and lift the white plate up but not off and spray some oil around underneath it.
25. daledduck Newbie Joined: Sep 2007 Southampton Posts: 4 Astra 1.8 SXI Polo 1.4 Euro styled Saxo VTR

    #25 30th September 2007, 17:46

    My saxo VTR is crunching and griding when i pull away in 1st and 2nd gear. i think it may be time for a new box also. Does the XSI box go strait in. also what one do i get. What size engine does it have to come from!