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1. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

   #1 26th September 2007, 21:13

   if i get my box all built, is it worth replacing clutch? its fine not having any problems with it at all?
   
   also if i have box off when fitting new one, can you tell by looking if its ok or not?
   
   not sure on bits like this, stil learning
   
   any advice would be ideal
2. kc51 Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 the YY Posts: 1364 wan oh sex

   #2 26th September 2007, 21:46

   you can kinda tell mate feel around it and see if there is like any ridges on it and + the look of it- if its nackerd it will look total black and will smell really bad
   
   hope this helps you a bit
   
   best way to find out if its nailed is to take it off and look at it
3. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

   #3 26th September 2007, 21:51

   yeah, i thought that would be case, but as said still tryin to learn bout it so thought id say first
   
   just need my box doin next lol
4. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

   #4 26th September 2007, 21:54

   Check play on the input shaft when the box is off, spin the shaft and listen for rattling/droning. If you take off the input shaft seal you can have a look at the main input shaft bearing. It has a plastic spacer race which is the most common part to fail. Have a check of that.
   
   Dependent on mileage, how hard you drive the car, and how stop/start your driving is, its maybe worth changing the clutch when the box is off.
5. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

   #5 26th September 2007, 21:57

   the box going on it one with a diff, so maybe best to change it
   
   unsure if il get it fitted up here, or if ryan knows somewhere down there to get it sorted
   
   also whats your name?! or can i just call you bastard?
6. kc51 Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 the YY Posts: 1364 wan oh sex

   #6 26th September 2007, 21:58

   yeah im still learning aswel but ive done my bit on boxes and clutches on saxo as they are a nightmare for boxes
   
   anyway hope you get on with it alrite
   
   
   buddah
7. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

   #7 26th September 2007, 22:01

   Just change it if youre unsure.
   
   Do you mean can you call me bastard? If so, go for it, its better than "that cunt".
   
   Or David.
8. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

   #8 26th September 2007, 22:02

   i get called cunt, i like it tho...
   
   bastard or david, thats not a hard choice, bastard it is...
   
   il pick clutch up for bout 70/80 wont i?
9. kc51 Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 the YY Posts: 1364 wan oh sex

   #9 26th September 2007, 22:02

   lol
   
   if you are unsure mate just go ahead and get it changed
   
   its prob worth it anyways but hope u get on with it alrite
   
   buddah
10. kc51 Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 the YY Posts: 1364 wan oh sex

    #10 26th September 2007, 22:03

    possibly cheaper mate...dingbro or euro car parts you will get cheap as chips
11. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

    #11 26th September 2007, 22:04

    Yeah Valeos are about 80 I think from GSF. Lasted me ages with fast driving on a standardish engine.
12. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #12 26th September 2007, 22:20

    that will do, wont be for months but stil may as well
13. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #13 26th September 2007, 22:53

    Just replace it for peace of mind if the box is of might had well lighten and balance the fly wheel to
14. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #14 26th September 2007, 22:56

    cant be arsed with that, not gona save much weight, is there any advantage to lighten and balanced fly wheel?
15. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #15 26th September 2007, 22:58

    in theory should make it rev quicker
16. Joesnow Frequent Poster Joined: May 2006 Posts: 691 Mk 1 VTS poseidon blue

    #16 26th September 2007, 23:12

    You cant get much weight off it… BUT just a small amount taken off the flywheel is equivalent to loads more weight taken from the car… imagine putting a passenger in the passenger seat… your power to weight ratios just gone down loads… now imagine strapping a passenger to your flywheel… not only does the engine have to accelerate the passenger forward, it has to accelerate him round too BUT…
    
    The engine accelerates quickest in neutral... so in neutral it will pick up quicker… 1st will be less so and 2nd less so again the rest of the gears it wont make much difference
    
    Think that something like 1kg taken off the outer radius of the fly will equate to about 40kg taken from the boot of the car in 1st gear… less in 2nd and hardly anything in the rest of the gears BUT…
    
    I don’t think 1kg can be take off the standard fly… so the effects are hardly noticeable… apart from in neutral… best bet is to get a new flywheel altogether BUT… they are extra expensive for the gains you will get… so wouldn’t bother tbh lol
    
    Bit of an essay there lol
17. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #17 26th September 2007, 23:16

    Where did you nick that from Joe lol
18. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #18 26th September 2007, 23:19

    so how much is that gona cost?
19. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #19 26th September 2007, 23:20

    
    
    one million dallars.
20. Joesnow Frequent Poster Joined: May 2006 Posts: 691 Mk 1 VTS poseidon blue

    #20 26th September 2007, 23:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer one million dallars.

    LOL Actually one of my favourite sayings that! haha
21. Joesnow Frequent Poster Joined: May 2006 Posts: 691 Mk 1 VTS poseidon blue

    #21 26th September 2007, 23:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by leeroybrown Where did you nick that from Joe lol

    Sheesh! I never went to uni for nowt u know!
22. Joesnow Frequent Poster Joined: May 2006 Posts: 691 Mk 1 VTS poseidon blue

    #22 26th September 2007, 23:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Yates so how much is that gona cost?

    Saw a pugsport one on ebay ages ago for £900 and that wasn’t new I don’t think…
23. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #23 26th September 2007, 23:26

    that helped sayer...
    
    if it was anyone else bad rep...
24. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #24 26th September 2007, 23:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Joesnow Saw a pugsport one on ebay ages ago for £900 and that wasn’t new I don’t think

    900????????
    
    yeah il stick with standard
25. Joesnow Frequent Poster Joined: May 2006 Posts: 691 Mk 1 VTS poseidon blue

    #25 26th September 2007, 23:33

    Don’t quote me on that… could have been an ebay skam… they wont be cheap though
26. gary_j L-plater Joined: Jan 2007 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 61 106 GTi

    #26 27th September 2007, 02:17

    Think qep do them for about £120