Bigger Lump or NO?

1. wellsy Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Devon Posts: 847 Mazda rx8 turbo

   #1 29th September 2007, 23:31

   I am planning on doing some fairly serious engine mods to my VTR over the next year or so. I have a few options in mind at the mo:
   
   1) Fitting a turbo to the existing engine.
   2) Fitting throttle bodies to it.
   3) Turbo and throttle bodies.
   4) or just changing the lump completly, i was thinking either a 2.0 T or a 1.8 T.
   
   Cost is also a factor in comparison to the BHP i'l gain.
   Any thoughts on this one?
   
   cheers
2. Jackman Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2006 Bridgend, South Wales Posts: 11234 iTB 205 Rallye, 205 STDT.

   #2 29th September 2007, 23:33

   Depends how set you are on a Turbo?
   
   After driving a VTR Turbo last night id highly recommend it myself..
   
   i intend doing it to something in the near future. although mine will be going to a CarWorx to be done.
3. wellsy Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Devon Posts: 847 Mazda rx8 turbo

   #3 29th September 2007, 23:35

   well iv driven a fair few turbos and i think dropping one in a saxo would be a pretty good way to go. did the one you drove have the standard engine with a turbo?
4. Jackman Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2006 Bridgend, South Wales Posts: 11234 iTB 205 Rallye, 205 STDT.

   #4 29th September 2007, 23:40

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by wellsy well iv driven a fair few turbos and i think dropping one in a saxo would be a pretty good way to go. did the one you drove have the standard engine with a turbo?

   Yep VTR 8v
5. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #5 29th September 2007, 23:40

   what sort of level of tune are you aiming for? That would determine how you mod the engine
6. jaybiss Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jul 2004 Solihull Posts: 18231 Two Tone Sax

   #6 29th September 2007, 23:42

   have you looked into the costs of turboing a saxo?
7. wellsy Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Devon Posts: 847 Mazda rx8 turbo

   #7 29th September 2007, 23:44

   iv had a quote from a friend who could get the turbo fitted for around the £900 mark. fair deal?
8. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

   #8 29th September 2007, 23:46

   Sounds way to cheap to me mate. And youll find it very hard to get a 1.8t/2.0t in a saxo, especially in the engine bay and even if you did the handling would be wank. Putting it in the back youll need a custom cage, shafts etc which wont be cheap.
9. wellsy Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Devon Posts: 847 Mazda rx8 turbo

   #9 29th September 2007, 23:46

   oh and by the way. how can i get a pic of me car in my avatar?
10. Jackman Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2006 Bridgend, South Wales Posts: 11234 iTB 205 Rallye, 205 STDT.

    #10 29th September 2007, 23:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wellsy iv had a quote from a friend who could get the turbo fitted for around the £900 mark. fair deal?

    Sounds to cheap..
    
    you looking more at a few thousand £££
11. jaybiss Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jul 2004 Solihull Posts: 18231 Two Tone Sax

    #11 29th September 2007, 23:48

    looking at 5k minimum tbh for it to be reliable
    
    need to uprate brakes, suspension, clutch
12. wellsy Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Devon Posts: 847 Mazda rx8 turbo

    #12 29th September 2007, 23:48

    didnt think so. I figured there would be a f**kin lot of welding aswell. just to keep the rear down!
13. wellsy Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Devon Posts: 847 Mazda rx8 turbo

    #13 29th September 2007, 23:50

    so wat we recommending over all.
14. jaybiss Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jul 2004 Solihull Posts: 18231 Two Tone Sax

    #14 29th September 2007, 23:50

    tell a lie, a guy on here has turboed his 1.1 and it cost him 1500 done himself with secondhand/ freebies...
15. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #15 29th September 2007, 23:50

    If your wanting more poke, have you considered a vts lump?
    
    then you could cam that and im sure that would keep you happy
16. wellsy Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Devon Posts: 847 Mazda rx8 turbo

    #16 29th September 2007, 23:53

    good thinkin. but i could just buy a vts. i want somethin a bit more individual. prod rather than poke if u see what im sayin!
17. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #17 30th September 2007, 00:18

    yeah of course
    
    like said turbo is gona cost 5k or so
    
    you could cam the vtr but then your stil lookin at vts pace
    
    fitting a bigger lump is gona cost alot more than the turbo
18. wellsy Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Devon Posts: 847 Mazda rx8 turbo

    #18 30th September 2007, 00:31

    cheers mate still cant get my head round this foookin avitar How do i upload my own pics? sound like a right fresher now! lol
19. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #19 30th September 2007, 00:40

    i think you may have to of posted 50 times not sure tho
20. jaybiss Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jul 2004 Solihull Posts: 18231 Two Tone Sax

    #20 30th September 2007, 00:44

    50 posts for an avatar
21. wellsy Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Devon Posts: 847 Mazda rx8 turbo

    #21 30th September 2007, 00:49

    ok. wat bout if i wana shove some pics into a post?
22. rey Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Kent Posts: 8205 :(s)rac

    #22 30th September 2007, 01:19

    no limit, you just have to upload them to photobucket or a site like that, and then link them to wherever you wanna post them
23. Mark51p Super Moderator Joined: Sep 2006 Wakefield Posts: 14427 Golf GT

    #23 30th September 2007, 07:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Yates yeah of course like said turbo is gona cost 5k or so you could cam the vtr but then your stil lookin at vts pace fitting a bigger lump is gona cost alot more than the turbo

    fitting a bigger lump is not goning cost more than the turbo
24. RedB Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445

    #24 30th September 2007, 12:24

    1. How much have you got / do you want to spend?
    2. How long can you be without a car?
    
    Id go VTEC if i had the time/money and Turbo that but how would TB and a Turbo work? Big dollar spend to make dreams reality fella
    
    VTS cams and remap with breathing mods
    Healthy BHP and then you can always take it further and TB or Turbo from there
25. jeeves_101 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2007 Weston-S-Mare Posts: 3713 Racing Bronze Mazda MX-5

    #25 30th September 2007, 12:54

    also, i dont think you can turbo and throttle body the car together, i may be wrong, buts thats what i've heard.
26. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #26 30th September 2007, 13:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mark51 fitting a bigger lump is not goning cost more than the turbo

    fitting a 2.0t as mentioned is going to cost more than a turbo
27. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #27 30th September 2007, 13:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by redbullet07 1. How much have you got / do you want to spend? 2. How long can you be without a car? Id go VTEC if i had the time/money and Turbo that but how would TB and a Turbo work? Big dollar spend to make dreams reality fella VTS cams and remap with breathing mods Healthy BHP and then you can always take it further and TB or Turbo from there

    i remember you saying you wanted bodies and turbo lol
28. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #28 30th September 2007, 13:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeeves_101 also, i dont think you can turbo and throttle body the car together, i may be wrong, buts thats what i've heard.

    sybez has supercharger and bodies
    
    no point imo
29. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #29 30th September 2007, 13:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bullit sybez has supercharger and bodies no point imo

    i thought he had, but wasnt 100%
    
    his cars fucked i read on ssc
30. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #30 30th September 2007, 14:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Yates i thought he had, but wasnt 100% his cars fucked i read on ssc

    i heard that but never seem to last long before another problem