cams, come on people

1. Robbo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2005 M'Bro - Teesside Posts: 3060 401 bhp r33 skyline

   #1 1st October 2007, 17:25

   right people, basically ive got a pretty standard VTS. (just breather mods, exhaust)
   
   what are the best MAKE of cams people are using nowadays? (piper, newmans etc)
   
   also im looking for maybe 145-150bhp fly. or is that a bit too much to ask for from just cams?
   
   cheers
   
   EDIT: and i also want to be able to pass my MOT on the emmissions test so i pretty much want to know the best cams to get which i can still pass my emmisons but get maximum power.
   
   hope that makes sense
2. makaveli144 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Burton Posts: 3661 Alfa Romeo GT

   #2 1st October 2007, 17:28

   Catcams 708's, reach about 160 at the fly depending on other mods and stuff obv.
3. Robbo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2005 M'Bro - Teesside Posts: 3060 401 bhp r33 skyline

   #3 1st October 2007, 17:33

   oh ill add aswell, piper exhaust, decatted, raceland scoop filter thingey
4. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

   #4 1st October 2007, 17:36

   you want manifold first rob
5. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

   #5 1st October 2007, 17:37

   You won't pass an MOT without a CAT, end of story. If you want power when installing higher lift cams, it would be stupid leaving the CAT in IMO.
   
   You can't have your cake and eat it. However, you can get a sports CAT. They are expensive mind, but they will flow pretty good, a lot better than a stock CAT, but not as well as not actually having one installed.
   
   Those figures for 708s are optimistic, and basically unrealistic too IMO. You could reach that with TBs and some decent head work though. Expect a genuine 150 + BHP with 708s and a very good re-map. Install an aftermarket ECU and get that mapped for optimum results.
6. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

   #6 1st October 2007, 17:43

   I'd try the Newmans for a change mate
   
   They have been making them for years and come highly rated
7. belly_VTS Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2006 Co Durham(north east) Posts: 626 cammed vts, (rest in pieces) corsa vxr - 340bhp

   #7 1st October 2007, 17:45

   most people go for the 708 cat cams with them been tried and tested, youl get somewhere 150-160atf
8. Adum Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Southend, Essex Posts: 2568 Honda S2000

   #8 1st October 2007, 18:26

   sorry for hjacking, but how much would catcams plus remap cost roughly?
9. samcook Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 evesham, worcs United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3813 197 cup

   #9 1st October 2007, 18:50

   about £350 for the cams mate and anything between 300-500 for the remap dependant on where u go
10. RICKYP-RPM Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 ower ere Posts: 1282 shitroen spaxo vts

    #10 1st October 2007, 18:56

    pair of newman cam's on ebay ending soon, going for more than the guy paid for them new
11. Robbo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2005 M'Bro - Teesside Posts: 3060 401 bhp r33 skyline

    #11 1st October 2007, 19:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Toad You won't pass an MOT without a CAT, end of story. If you want power when installing higher lift cams, it would be stupid leaving the CAT in IMO. You can't have your cake and eat it. However, you can get a sports CAT. They are expensive mind, but they will flow pretty good, a lot better than a stock CAT, but not as well as not actually having one installed. Those figures for 708s are optimistic, and basically unrealistic too IMO. You could reach that with TBs and some decent head work though. Expect a genuine 150 + BHP with 708s and a very good re-map. Install an aftermarket ECU and get that mapped for optimum results.

    i know that, i can change a cat over when it comes to mot time, i obviously cant change cams over every year! lol sorry i should have explianed better
12. Robbo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2005 M'Bro - Teesside Posts: 3060 401 bhp r33 skyline

    #12 1st October 2007, 19:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RICKYP-RPM pair of newman cam's on ebay ending soon, going for more than the guy paid for them new

    saw that earlier, confused me, especially as he put the price he paid for them in the description but people will still buy them rather than get them new.... hhhmmm
13. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #13 1st October 2007, 20:32

    cat cams 708s but arnt newmans ph3's the same? but a load cheaper?
14. Robbo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2005 M'Bro - Teesside Posts: 3060 401 bhp r33 skyline

    #14 1st October 2007, 20:43

    so what cams am i looking for to get to around 150-160?
    
    1)catcam 708's
    2)
    3)
    
    fill in the blanks anyone?
    
    reppage obv
15. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #15 1st October 2007, 20:53

    708s
    ph3
    kent 51s
    piper 285s
    
    there all equilivent cams, durations and lift etc slightly differing
    
    i no anyone with newmans so cant comment. maybe check rallye reg.
    
    otherwise kents or cats imo
16. Robbo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2005 M'Bro - Teesside Posts: 3060 401 bhp r33 skyline

    #16 1st October 2007, 20:56

    right nice one people youve helped me out!