viper induction kit

1. jamiej2k6 L-plater Joined: May 2007 manchester Posts: 53 2000 saxo vtr slilver

   #1 9th October 2007, 12:27

   i have seen many people complaining about this induction kit. i have one myself and think its pretty gud apart frm the price. can anybody tell me what they finks up with it
2. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

   #2 9th October 2007, 13:48

   Basically all fully enclosed filters will suffer to some extent because their only supply of air is through their cold air feed, now if this is poorly installed or the car is not on the move and fresh atmosphere is being 'feed' into the induction system to the filter then it can suffer from a slight starvagtion.
   
   Now a open filter say like a 57i K&N setup wouldnt suffer from this problem as its 'open' to the engine bays atmosphere but then it suffers from its own problems mainly 'Heat Soak' or sucking on warm air there by lowering performance.
   
   Finding the balance is the trick
   
   Just because a product performs poorly on a rolling road doesnt mean it will perform the same in the open road.
3. jeeves_101 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2007 Weston-S-Mare Posts: 3713 Racing Bronze Mazda MX-5

   #3 9th October 2007, 14:12

   imo, i think people prefer the likes of the bmc and the raceland with green filter, as there is no metal around the filter, whereas the viper has metal ends to the casing, so these heat up and some hot air drawn in to the intake.
4. Nick_T Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 Bristol Posts: 2784 8valve tbh

   #4 9th October 2007, 14:30

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jeeves_101 imo, i think people prefer the likes of the bmc and the raceland with green filter, as there is no metal around the filter, whereas the viper has metal ends to the casing, so these heat up and some hot air drawn in to the intake.

   raceland are usually used with a metal pipe...
   
   people on here like BMCs because they are style whores and it fills the gap between the head and battery up nicely...
   
   
   ps: i have a viper
5. jeeves_101 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2007 Weston-S-Mare Posts: 3713 Racing Bronze Mazda MX-5

   #5 9th October 2007, 14:35

   i know the raceland use a metal pipe, but its not around the filter, whereas on the viper it is.
   
   with the raceland the air is going into the filter then through the pipe and there would be little if no effect.
   
   but with the viper, the metal is around the filter, thus heating the air and filter up before.
   
   and yes, bmc is also a good style whore peice of kit.
6. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

   #6 9th October 2007, 14:52

   Not a viper man myself,
   look quite tidy though.
7. Emma_ZS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Lincolnshire Posts: 8845 1. Mk2 Posi Furio 2. Fiesta Zetec S

   #7 9th October 2007, 14:53

   I have a viper and i like it lol, i just want a BMC for the pretty blue silicone hosing i can have
8. jeeves_101 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2007 Weston-S-Mare Posts: 3713 Racing Bronze Mazda MX-5

   #8 9th October 2007, 14:57

   i like the look of the viper's but myself, prefer the bmc's, and the limited edition silver carbon ones are nice too.
9. Nick_T Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 Bristol Posts: 2784 8valve tbh

   #9 9th October 2007, 14:57

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by furiofanatic I have a viper and i like it lol, i just want a BMC for the pretty blue silicone hosing i can have

   see what i mean jeeves ^^^ style whores, the lot of them
10. Emma_ZS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Lincolnshire Posts: 8845 1. Mk2 Posi Furio 2. Fiesta Zetec S

    #10 9th October 2007, 14:58

    lol ^^^
11. jeeves_101 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2007 Weston-S-Mare Posts: 3713 Racing Bronze Mazda MX-5

    #11 9th October 2007, 15:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nicktynan see what i mean jeeves ^^^ style whores, the lot of them

    nothing wrong with style whoring. hahaha
    
    i want a limited edition silver carbon bmc just to be different, but i would use it with black silicone.
12. Nick_T Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 Bristol Posts: 2784 8valve tbh

    #12 9th October 2007, 15:04

    haha, i dont care about my engine bay...
    cant see it when you're moving so whats the point..
13. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #13 9th October 2007, 15:05

    I wish my engine bay was cleaner, thats on my to do list tbh
14. jeeves_101 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2007 Weston-S-Mare Posts: 3713 Racing Bronze Mazda MX-5

    #14 9th October 2007, 15:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nicktynan haha, i dont care about my engine bay... cant see it when you're moving so whats the point..

    a clean and tidy car, deserves a clean and tidy engine bay.
    
    i personally like to keep mine nice and clean, its worth showing off then.
15. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

    #15 9th October 2007, 18:25

    Foir non-saxo applications there is only a few choices when it comes to enclosed induction systems. Pipercross's Viper system has been about quiet sometime now, with stuff like the K&N Apllo range and others joining over recent years.
16. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #16 9th October 2007, 20:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by furiofanatic I have a viper and i like it lol, i just want a BMC for the pretty blue silicone hosing i can have

    ill have to show you a pic of mine
17. Emma_ZS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Lincolnshire Posts: 8845 1. Mk2 Posi Furio 2. Fiesta Zetec S

    #17 9th October 2007, 20:01

    LOL just to rub it in