TB's, talk to me.

1. James Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Hull Posts: 11909 Beeeemer

   #1 12th October 2007, 00:31

   http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA:IT&ih=009
   
   What else am I going to need apart from a Cam to get this onto my car..
   
   Is it going to need mapping again?
   
   My car is a 2001 vtr, mark 2, 98bhp engine.
   
   Any usefal help = rep and sex.
   
   edit: Power increases, talk to me.. let me know the pro's and con's of this.
2. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

   #2 12th October 2007, 01:53

   Youll need someone to map it. Technically speaking, it wont need a cam, but itll be wank without one. You may need to sort out MAP feeds as it looks like theres only vacuum draw from cylinder 1, probably to run the servo.
   
   I cant remember if the M3DK runs an ICV, so you might need to look into that. Im sure it does though. Emerald is a very underrated management system IMO.
   
   Pros - good potential for further tuning, will complement a hairy cam.
   
   Cons - Its going back to the old "dearer than firing in a VTS engine" carry on. Needs mapping, a bit of playing about too.
   
   Depends if you have the budget and time to follow it through: if so, it could end up rather good, but it wont be as easy as made out in the auction.
3. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

   #3 12th October 2007, 08:00

   You'll need a custom inlet manifold for a start.
   
   Defo a Cam
   
   Emerald will need to be hard wired into you OE wiring loom
   
   Dave Walker to map it (legend he is)
   
   Either a px600 filter, or socks or a custom air box
   
   Possibly a FPR
   
   Torque is improved with throttle bodies more responsive
   
   Only probs with Bike bodies matey, everone who seem to have them done dont seem to make much power
   
   Noise alone is worth it
4. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

   #4 12th October 2007, 08:25

   To cut a long story short... It's honestly not worth the hassle. Sorry to sound like a git, but it's probably best to knock this one on the head straight away.
5. James Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Hull Posts: 11909 Beeeemer

   #5 12th October 2007, 11:01

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Toad To cut a long story short... It's honestly not worth the hassle. Sorry to sound like a git, but it's probably best to knock this one on the head straight away.

   Danke chun, all i wanted to know lol
6. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

   #6 12th October 2007, 11:12

   Don't get me wrong, there are sure to be some good kits out there worth looking into, but that Ebay jobbie would be hassle you don't want.
7. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #7 12th October 2007, 13:44

   argh bike bodies...
   
   emerald ecu is good tho
8. James Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Hull Posts: 11909 Beeeemer

   #8 12th October 2007, 13:50

   If I bought that,
   
   Get some new bodies - How much are they?
   
   Sell the bike bodies..
   
   then get it mapped?, how much is the emerald worth?
9. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

   #9 12th October 2007, 13:56

   worth a bit the emeralds
10. gazza808 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 591

    #10 12th October 2007, 15:03

    nothing the matter with bike bodies at all,
    
    i say jump in well worth it,
    
    get a lairy cam, get it mapped jobs a gooden.
    
    your looking at 80 quid for bike bodies, or cica 500quid for jenveys with linkages and what not...
    
    bike bodies a little bit more work but a huge saving
11. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

    #11 12th October 2007, 15:04

    nothing wrong with bike bodies Ryan you gay! Bike carbs however...
    
    Other tb's cost a lot - everyones catching on to the cheapness of bike bodies though.
12. Ste Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 5415 Saxo

    #12 13th October 2007, 00:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cloud Get some new bodies - How much are they

    I saw a really nice set of red jenveys fully furnished go for over £400
13. frankie Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye

    #13 13th October 2007, 01:01

    in one of my threads about TB's kam said he could do a deal.
14. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #14 13th October 2007, 04:56

    just stick a fuckin vts engine it it if your thinking, and dont say its already vts speed cos it aint, then cam it
15. Mark51p Super Moderator Joined: Sep 2006 Wakefield Posts: 14427 Golf GT

    #15 13th October 2007, 05:12

    ^^ dont fcuk with yates, lol
16. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #16 13th October 2007, 05:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gabbastard nothing wrong with bike bodies Ryan you gay! Bike carbs however... Other tb's cost a lot - everyones catching on to the cheapness of bike bodies though.

    dont like the way the inlet manifolds match to the bodies with bike bodies personally.