quick manifold questions

1. Robbo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2005 M'Bro - Teesside Posts: 3060 401 bhp r33 skyline

   #1 16th October 2007, 23:20

   ill be quick as i dont really need detailed answers. rep available
   
   1)how come raceland manifolds are sooo cheap compared to piper or supersprint etc?
   
   2)do the raceland 4-2-1 manifolds fall lower than the front bumper? i know one kind of manifold does and im just not sure if its the raceland or not.
   
   
   thanks
   
   Robbo
2. Saxo_Steve Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2006 Prestwick Posts: 952 Saxo VTR mk2

   #2 16th October 2007, 23:31

   Raceland are made from a thinner steel than other ones and the build quality isn't the best. And as far as I know these sit at the same level as the normal manifold, don't know which one it is that hangs lower.
3. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #3 16th October 2007, 23:31

   the racelands don't hang low.
   
   The difference is the quality. Supersprint ones and to a lesser extent piper are made to far higher standards and better materials.
4. Robbo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2005 M'Bro - Teesside Posts: 3060 401 bhp r33 skyline

   #4 16th October 2007, 23:48

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by KamRacing the racelands don't hang low. The difference is the quality. Supersprint ones and to a lesser extent piper are made to far higher standards and better materials.

   how much of a higher standard? how long will a raceland manifold last me?.... 100 miles, 10,000 miles 100,000 miles?
   
   would it be better to splash out on piper or stick with a raceland and with the extra cash ive saved buy some heat wrap?
5. mattchewone Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 West Sussex Posts: 5769 Passat Oil Burner

   #5 16th October 2007, 23:58

   Should last a few years. Mine hangs a little lower than my old one. Well it may just look like it as its all shiny lol compared to the naff old one!
6. OLLYVTS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 West Sussex . Posts: 5690 Subaru Impreza Wrx

   #6 17th October 2007, 00:09

   Its just about the build quality i dont think there is much difference in perfomace tbh.It will last you a good few years as i have heard and for the money i dont think you can really go wrong with the raceland manifold.
   
   EDIT;When i fitted mine it didnt look like it sitted any lower than the stardard one.
7. Wayne Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2007 Powys Posts: 15348 Icelandtic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS 53 Turbo

   #7 17th October 2007, 00:47

   i would buy a raceland theres not alot of difference between them performance wise.
8. samcook Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 evesham, worcs United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3813 197 cup

   #8 17th October 2007, 09:07

   i thort the build quailty of my raceland was good but the material it was made of is too thin, wil be up for sale in a few weeks when i get a piper one
9. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

   #9 17th October 2007, 09:19

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by samcook i thort the build quailty of my raceland was good but the material it was made of is too thin, wil be up for sale in a few weeks when i get a piper one

   Totally agree.
10. Robbo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2005 M'Bro - Teesside Posts: 3060 401 bhp r33 skyline

    #10 17th October 2007, 10:32

    right thanks people.
    
    also because i have a mk2 vts i need to put a mk 1 oil filter in dont i?
    
    do i just buy one from halfrauds and swap it over then?
    
    cheers
11. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #11 17th October 2007, 10:34

    I didnt have to change mine over on my Piper 4-1
12. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

    #12 17th October 2007, 10:36

    depends where your oil filter is mate.....if its the black thing poking out on the right hand side (passanger) then you will.
    
    If its at the bottom sticking towards the bumper (blue oil filter) then you won't
13. samcook Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 evesham, worcs United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3813 197 cup

    #13 17th October 2007, 10:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Robbo right thanks people. also because i have a mk2 vts i need to put a mk 1 oil filter in dont i? do i just buy one from halfrauds and swap it over then? cheers

    noo u wont need to change anything mate
14. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #14 17th October 2007, 10:58

    Apart from a 3.50 Manifold gasket
15. Robbo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2005 M'Bro - Teesside Posts: 3060 401 bhp r33 skyline

    #15 17th October 2007, 11:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Baz depends where your oil filter is mate.....if its the black thing poking out on the right hand side (passanger) then you will. If its at the bottom sticking towards the bumper (blue oil filter) then you won't

    yeh i got a blue one at the front of my engine. deffo's dont need to change it with a raceland then?
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Soulless Apart from a 3.50 Manifold gasket

    halfrauds?
16. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #16 17th October 2007, 11:10

    Citroen matey.
17. Robbo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2005 M'Bro - Teesside Posts: 3060 401 bhp r33 skyline

    #17 17th October 2007, 11:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Soulless Citroen matey.

    nice shame i cant double rep u.
    
    
18. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #18 17th October 2007, 11:13

    Its alright, only know this because changed mine about 5 days ago.
19. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #19 22nd October 2007, 11:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Robbo how much of a higher standard? how long will a raceland manifold last me?.... 100 miles, 10,000 miles 100,000 miles? would it be better to splash out on piper or stick with a raceland and with the extra cash ive saved buy some heat wrap?

    The Racelands have a guarantee of 4 years off the top of my head.
    
    Personally I'd get the Supersprint out of the Piper / Raceland / Supersprint as a well designed and well made manifold will be the best performing. BUT its all down to budget.
20. Robbo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2005 M'Bro - Teesside Posts: 3060 401 bhp r33 skyline

    #20 22nd October 2007, 16:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing The Racelands have a guarantee of 4 years off the top of my head. Personally I'd get the Supersprint out of the Piper / Raceland / Supersprint as a well designed and well made manifold will be the best performing. BUT its all down to budget.

    ah well if its got a guarantee then ill stick with the raceland
    
    cheers
21. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #21 22nd October 2007, 17:08

    raceland is made out of tin foil. gmc s hangs low
22. Robbo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2005 M'Bro - Teesside Posts: 3060 401 bhp r33 skyline

    #22 22nd October 2007, 19:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bullit raceland is made out of tin foil. gmc s hangs low

    i knew there was a manifold that hung low! now i know not to get a gmc fannyfold