Enlarged sump

  1. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Shrewsbury Posts: 642 Saxo VTS
    #1
    Has anybody here made their own sump bigger??

    How did u do it, obviously u need to cut & extend it, but where?

    Thanks
  2. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can
    #2
    Please explain why you would want to do that!?

    Be hardcore and go for a dry sump!
  3. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS
    #3
    Yeah why would you want to make it bigger?

    I cant think of any advantage..lol
  4. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #4
    no advantage really to a larger sump, if you are suffering from oil starvation or surges at cornering speeds, then get a baffle kit.
  5. Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320
    #5
    the more oil in the sump the less work it has to do and stays at a better quality for longer, also helps with cooling as it will take longer to overheat 6L than it will 4L.
    its easy to do, using another sump or just make it wider with the correct steel, i wouldnt make it deeper as it will be closer to the ground but can easily be made wider
  6. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tweeqd View Post
    the more oil in the sump the less work it has to do and stays at a better quality for longer, also helps with cooling as it will take longer to overheat 6L than it will 4L.
    its easy to do, using another sump or just make it wider with the correct steel, i wouldnt make it deeper as it will be closer to the ground but can easily be made wider

    agree 100% about the depth a nice deep sump = a nice broken sump in most cases from naff all clearance
  7. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 London Posts: 3416
    #7
    4litres to 6 hhhmmmm more weight mate if you gunna do that then im afaid u will have to scarifice one of your limbs
  8. Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tobs View Post
    4litres to 6 hhhmmmm more weight mate if you gunna do that then im afaid u will have to scarifice one of your limbs
    i hope your taking the piss or do you have a shit and shave your head before you get in the car?
  9. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2007 Weston-S-Mare Posts: 3713 Racing Bronze Mazda MX-5
    #9
    where and how much is a baffle kit, and what exactly do they do?

    cheers
  10. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tweeqd View Post
    the more oil in the sump the less work it has to do and stays at a better quality for longer, also helps with cooling as it will take longer to overheat 6L than it will 4L.
    its easy to do, using another sump or just make it wider with the correct steel, i wouldnt make it deeper as it will be closer to the ground but can easily be made wider
    You'd benefit more from a dry sump rather than having a larger capacity one.
    The oil is actively pumped out the sump eliminating starvation issues and in the tall oil tank the air has a chance to be evacuated from the oil making it more efficient.

    If you have cooling issues then those need to be address directly with an oil cooler. Having more oil sloshing about would not be a solution I'd entertain
  11. Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320
    #11
    i would rather have the dry sump but enlarging the sump is alot cheaper
    i wouldnt use the larger sump as the only means of cooling, and air oil cooler is the best way but if you can weld enlarging the sump will be more or less free and wont hurt the engine, we fit alot of big wing sumps on the YB's
  12. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Shrewsbury Posts: 642 Saxo VTS
    #12
    How much does a dry sump cost then?
  13. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #13
    nigh on a grand and a bit. not sure if there is an off the shelve option but if it were me i'd get pace to custom build one for the TU

    if you can build the engine with the dry sump in mind you can reduce paracitic losses and improve bhp