lowered 60mm all round

1. Berg Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2007 rugby Posts: 3766 MK2 VTS, Ibiza Cupra 20VT

   #1 21st October 2007, 22:20

   i have had my torsion bar lowered 60mm recently and have now just bought some 60mm springs only, for the front...
   
   will having it like this cause any harm or damage to the car at all, will normal shocks be ok?
   
   thanx
2. user_17385 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Havant, nr Portsmouth Posts: 406 Red 97 vts bought in june 2012 :)

   #2 21st October 2007, 22:33

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Berg i have had my torsion bar lowered 60mm recently and have now just bought some 60mm springs only, for the front... will having it like this cause any harm or damage to the car at all, will normal shocks be ok? thanx

   i can say from personal experence but i've heard that standand shocks can only take a 40mm drop..
   
   but give it go.. i bet it'll look cool!
   
   good luck..
   post some picks when its done
3. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

   #3 21st October 2007, 22:41

   my car is about 60mm front and 40mm rear, but with the install etc in its more like 50 - 55 mm, have a look mate, looks great imo, and handling is ok, i never go on tracks so thats why i did this, so dont anyone start
   
   do a search too mate its been covered many times
4. Berg Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2007 rugby Posts: 3766 MK2 VTS, Ibiza Cupra 20VT

   #4 21st October 2007, 22:49

   ok cheers for help guys will probs change shcoks at end of month
5. steviet Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4119

   #5 21st October 2007, 22:57

   mines is lowered 60mm on the standard shocks and is fine. been like that for over a year anyway. bit bumpy tho ,feel every bump in the road. but looks mint.
6. Hopcraft Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 Northampton Posts: 5957 ED30

   #6 22nd October 2007, 13:06

   it is advised you change the shocks after lowering more than 40. the ride will be horrible tbh. 60mm on springs.
7. frankie Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye

   #7 22nd October 2007, 13:17

   im lowered 60mm on standard shocks bumpy as fuck which is funny, but handles like a beast.
8. jeeves_101 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2007 Weston-S-Mare Posts: 3713 Racing Bronze Mazda MX-5

   #8 22nd October 2007, 13:40

   go for it mate, i'm only 40mm on a full kit but 60 mm looks mint, have a look at frankie640's thread, he's done 60 all round and it looks the tits.
9. frankie Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye

   #9 22nd October 2007, 13:55

   but jeeves i havnt put any pics up ahaha lol.
10. Berg Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2007 rugby Posts: 3766 MK2 VTS, Ibiza Cupra 20VT

    #10 22nd October 2007, 17:48

    at the minute im only 40mm on front and 60 back,
    but my car looks like its doing a wheelie so i was gonna go 50 on front
    but a cheap set of 60mm ones came along on ebay so i just bought them
11. L8R_VTR Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 786

    #11 22nd October 2007, 21:05

    Am down 60 mm front and about 40-50mm on the back but am on uprated shocks its a firm ride though mate!! my brother was down 60 front and 80 mm on the back standard shocks bumpy as fook but looked and handled like a fooking dream m8!!
12. Wayne Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2007 Powys Posts: 15348 Icelandtic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS 53 Turbo

    #12 22nd October 2007, 22:48

    you should be fine mate
13. Crunkers Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Verwood Posts: 5217 53 Renault Clio 1.2 16v

    #13 22nd October 2007, 22:57

    Go shocks. I have a Spax full kit and its well worth the investment
14. Chris_Mac Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 125

    #14 22nd October 2007, 23:36

    im 50 mm on apex shocks and front springs
    and its a bumpy ride with that even
15. Hopcraft Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 Northampton Posts: 5957 ED30

    #15 22nd October 2007, 23:50

    cos apex arnt all that.
16. Kwijibo_VTR Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Peterhead Posts: 231 Citroen Saxo VTR

    #16 22nd October 2007, 23:52

    Im 60 mm lowered on the standard shocks at the front. Not as good as my old saxo with the coilovers but it still handles pretty well. Think I'm siting about 40ish at the back too and I'd say its a good combo for handling.
17. Saint Established Member Joined: Jul 2005 Wrexham United Kingdom (Wales) Posts: 1127 Phase 2 Saxo VTR

    #17 23rd October 2007, 11:47

    Be too much travel on the shocks, mate had his corsa on 40-60mm springs no shocks and ripped his bumper off going round bend from so much lean too lol
    
    doubt be that harsh on a VT* but best get shocks aye much better, oh and with 60mm get the power steering pipe altered b4 it bursts
18. Berg Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2007 rugby Posts: 3766 MK2 VTS, Ibiza Cupra 20VT

    #18 23rd October 2007, 20:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Saint oh and with 60mm get the power steering pipe altered b4 it bursts

    in what way?
    
    havent heard of this before
19. teebag Established Member Joined: May 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 1245 1997 R Reg MK1 VT1.0 saxo

    #19 23rd October 2007, 20:19

    am thinkin of lowering mine 60mm aswel. how bad is it on speed bumps though?
20. teebag Established Member Joined: May 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 1245 1997 R Reg MK1 VT1.0 saxo

    #20 23rd October 2007, 20:19

    or in multi story carparks???
21. D_Man Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2005 Crondall nr Farnham United Kingdom (England) Posts: 951 Focus ST-2

    #21 24th October 2007, 02:42

    Depends how big the speed bump is, and never had an issue with multistorey car parks.
    
    My magnex silencer used to scrape a bit, but since I removed at haven't heard it scrape once.
22. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #22 24th October 2007, 09:43

    Quote:

    but handles like a beast

    what kind of beast? i presume a mystical 3 legged beast that walks with a limp...
    
    60 your handling will be utter shit. with standard shocks its going to be bump as fuck, you will feel like a shitting dog when driving you shake that much. standard shocks will not last long with this, and your driveshafts will also be under alot more pressure and will cause problems, also your power steering pipe...
    
    multi storey car parks some you will scrape some you wont, if you have a aftermarket exhaust you may find that that will scrape
    
    speed bumps will also be anight mare
    
    the power steering pump just needs bending out the way, there will be pictures on here somewhere
23. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #23 24th October 2007, 09:50

    60mmm gives couldn't handling ha ha ha Should be quote of the year that
    
    Look at Yates his was 60mm, he saw sense and did his properly, handles like a proper car now
24. Saint Established Member Joined: Jul 2005 Wrexham United Kingdom (Wales) Posts: 1127 Phase 2 Saxo VTR

    #24 24th October 2007, 11:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Berg in what way? havent heard of this before

    Driveshafts (i think) are at differnet angle than standard so rub against the pipe. even me suspension kit had a warning about it. didnt read it though lol
    
    Ended up with me leaking some fluid and then it pissed it all out in tesco car park, just as i went to park up the steering locked up went really heavy and if i didnt slam on would have hit the car as i couldnt steer due to shock and how heavy it went suddenly.
    
    drove home and got lift back to work on me dinner doh! damn good workout for your arms lol
25. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #25 24th October 2007, 13:04

    60mm for the win muhahahahaha
26. Hopcraft Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 Northampton Posts: 5957 ED30

    #26 24th October 2007, 14:07

    ignore all that stuff with power stearing, it only applys on the mark 2's !
    
    reply to d-man, you'll have trouble with 'some' speed humps and 'some' multi-stories if you go down 60mm.
27. Berg Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2007 rugby Posts: 3766 MK2 VTS, Ibiza Cupra 20VT

    #27 24th October 2007, 18:16

    thats ok then one worry off my mind
    will defo change the shocks tho i think