C2R2 Head and Inlet..?

1. Dibz Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 240 106 GTi

   #1 23rd October 2007, 17:10

   I have some questions if anybody would like to try and answer them it would be appreciated. Can you buy the C2R2 inlet and head and use them directly with a GTi/VTS block? Does the C2R2 use really wild cams which would struggle to pass an MOT? also would this setup be hard to drive on the road as a daily driver? Im interested as an alternative route to TB's..
2. Dibz Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 240 106 GTi

   #2 25th October 2007, 23:06

   Anyone..?
3. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #3 25th October 2007, 23:55

   i dont think they use too wild cams.
   but using a c2 head on a saxo/106 block will drop you CR so you would need a lot skimmed off. the c2 throttle body is also different so you would need to make an adapter plate to fit your TB.
4. Dibz Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 240 106 GTi

   #4 26th October 2007, 12:24

   Ok mate, thanks.
5. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

   #5 26th October 2007, 18:04

   C2R2 is not a good everyday engine. The engine has a very tight powerband, You will have to get a proper race box. Even the old 106 cup kit was not great on the stock box. As for MOT it depends what you are planning to do for the rest of it. But MOT will be a hard one to pass.
   
   For a road car that will pass mot and be just as happy driving slow as flat out try a low boost setup. You will get the same sort of power but the car will pass a mot and off boost will just about drive like a stock car.
6. Dibz Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 240 106 GTi

   #6 27th October 2007, 00:50

   Only problem is i dont like boost! Thanks for the input anyway mate
   
   I knew that it was too good to be true! Surely the C2R2 head would be great with throttle bodies if it can make 180bhp on a standard body?
7. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #7 27th October 2007, 00:53

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Dibz Only problem is i dont like boost! Thanks for the input anyway mate I knew that it was too good to be true! Surely the C2R2 head would be great with throttle bodies if it can make 180bhp on a standard body?

   comes down to cam profile though which of course is what will effect emssions.
8. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

   #8 29th October 2007, 09:13

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Dibz Only problem is i dont like boost! Thanks for the input anyway mate I knew that it was too good to be true! Surely the C2R2 head would be great with throttle bodies if it can make 180bhp on a standard body?

   The C2R2 is a full engine setup. Its not just a head and cam. If you just stuck them cam on a stock engine you get a lot of problems. So many it will not actually work.
9. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #9 29th October 2007, 09:39

   you can buy the parts separately though..
   
   Certainly purchasing the complete engine would not give you something suitable for the road. Its a pure Rally engine through and through.