pipercross induction kit help meeeeee!!!

1. haza1981 L-plater Joined: Sep 2007 newcastle/Hartlepool Posts: 42 1.1i t reg 1999 poseidon blue wolfrace alloys,

   #1 31st October 2007, 11:20

   hi i just recently purchased a pipercross induction kit and was kinda confused when all i got was the filter,a bracket and some fitting bracelets. Surely i need some piping to fit this. Proberly one with two holes. Can anyone help me out. I dont want to spend to much more money but i want to be able to fit it.
   
   Oh mines a 99 1.1 cheers guys
2. DawsonWicked Established Member Joined: Jun 2007 Doncaster Posts: 1348 VW Golf GT TDI

   #2 31st October 2007, 11:27

   pics would help a great deal matey cant do anything without pics get plenty of the engine bay and the induction kit and all the brackets then explain what ya stuck on tar.
3. haza1981 L-plater Joined: Sep 2007 newcastle/Hartlepool Posts: 42 1.1i t reg 1999 poseidon blue wolfrace alloys,

   #3 31st October 2007, 11:44

   I have found a picture of a similar engine(lot more rust on this one though) can you advise if i just remove the part i have marked in red and fit the new kit. obviously i would remove the filter also
   
   
4. mattchewone Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 West Sussex Posts: 5769 Passat Oil Burner

   #4 31st October 2007, 11:47

   SPI means the inlet is facing upwards and is slightly more tricky to fit tbh. I have a K&N Specifi one to fit my 1.1 and it doesnt do much at all to the car. You can buy panel filters which will just replace the original and work aswell.
5. haza1981 L-plater Joined: Sep 2007 newcastle/Hartlepool Posts: 42 1.1i t reg 1999 poseidon blue wolfrace alloys,

   #5 31st October 2007, 11:53

   Sorry im not sure if that answered my question. the filter is cone shaped and has a metal straight tail. its got black foam whichhas kinda toblerone shapes. the bracket is liek a long Z but is meant to fit a 206. I was told it would fit my car also. Maybe i was wrong
6. mattchewone Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 West Sussex Posts: 5769 Passat Oil Burner

   #6 31st October 2007, 11:55

   Put a pic up of the filter it will help more lol.
7. haza1981 L-plater Joined: Sep 2007 newcastle/Hartlepool Posts: 42 1.1i t reg 1999 poseidon blue wolfrace alloys,

   #7 31st October 2007, 12:00

   this is the pic of the filter i have
   
   
8. mattchewone Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 West Sussex Posts: 5769 Passat Oil Burner

   #8 31st October 2007, 12:06

   TBH im not entirely sure how you would fit it due to the inlet facing upwards. I am uploading a pic of mine to show you what is needed to take away. As most of the original stuff needs to be taken away. (well it did for mine).
9. mattchewone Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 West Sussex Posts: 5769 Passat Oil Burner

   #9 31st October 2007, 12:06

   
10. mattchewone Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 West Sussex Posts: 5769 Passat Oil Burner

    #10 31st October 2007, 12:11

    You may be able to put a breather filter on the oil breather which is on top of the rocker cover. Then jubilee clip on an L shape samco hose on to where my filter is and the attach that to the air filter.
11. smiith Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Sep 2007 Jail - Whitby Posts: 15034 520bhp Honda Jazz

    #11 31st October 2007, 12:14

    Nice clean engine bay there matt
    
    yeh just take the whole filter system off, mine was same on my mk1 clio, take the lot off and sit a k&n ontop of it actually made it nippier along with a stainless exhaust system
12. haza1981 L-plater Joined: Sep 2007 newcastle/Hartlepool Posts: 42 1.1i t reg 1999 poseidon blue wolfrace alloys,

    #12 31st October 2007, 12:15

    all the induction kits i have seen poke out the side. yours seems to be facing upwards. Looks like a lot of work ......what have i got myself into . I only wanted to increase pressure cause my backbox seems to leave me with low compression on accelaration
13. mattchewone Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 West Sussex Posts: 5769 Passat Oil Burner

    #13 31st October 2007, 12:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smiith Nice clean engine bay there matt yeh just take the whole filter system off, mine was same on my mk1 clio, take the lot off and sit a k&n ontop of it actually made it nippier along with a stainless exhaust system

    I know i treat her well lol
    
    Like i said the SPI engine is when the inlet is facing up, there are not very many filters available for it that i know of apart from the K&N i have. If you want something else to fit you will have to make it fit lol.
14. smiith Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Sep 2007 Jail - Whitby Posts: 15034 520bhp Honda Jazz

    #14 31st October 2007, 12:17

    you can face them upwards like that, then run a cold air feed pipe or 2 from the front of the car to force cold air to the filter
15. smiith Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Sep 2007 Jail - Whitby Posts: 15034 520bhp Honda Jazz

    #15 31st October 2007, 12:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mattchewone If you want something else to fit you will have to make it fit lol.

    this seems like a good time to say im a joiner, and own big hammers
    
    WE can make it fit
16. mattchewone Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 West Sussex Posts: 5769 Passat Oil Burner

    #16 31st October 2007, 12:20

    The filter he has currently will be too long which means he wont be able to shut the bonnet lol. The K&N is made to be wide and short. Here is another pic (show of my S/S Manifold)
    
17. mattchewone Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 West Sussex Posts: 5769 Passat Oil Burner

    #17 31st October 2007, 12:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smiith this seems like a good time to say im a joiner, and own big hammers WE can make it fit

    Hmm large hammers nice one! I think it can be done fairly easily. Just need to know what to buy. You will need the correct fitment L bend to fit on Inlet and then attach other end to filter, strap the filter to something to prevent it from moving and then put in a cold air feed from front of car.
18. haza1981 L-plater Joined: Sep 2007 newcastle/Hartlepool Posts: 42 1.1i t reg 1999 poseidon blue wolfrace alloys,

    #18 31st October 2007, 12:30

    so it looks like i need an l shape tube. Does anyone know where i can get them without buting another induction kit. Looked on ebay but no joy. also can someone post a pic showing where i would attach it too.
    
    thanks for your help guys
19. mattchewone Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 West Sussex Posts: 5769 Passat Oil Burner

    #19 31st October 2007, 12:33

    You would fit it onto where my filter is in my pic. Slot it over the hole and tighten with jubilee clip. Like this hose http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/viper-performa...QQcmdZViewItem
20. haza1981 L-plater Joined: Sep 2007 newcastle/Hartlepool Posts: 42 1.1i t reg 1999 poseidon blue wolfrace alloys,

    #20 31st October 2007, 12:43

    that link doesnt seem to work for me ... i think its cause you copied the abrieviated version. the pictures i have seen of saxo,s with induction kits seem to go out to the right then down towards he intake . they dont seem to connect to where you have yours . is there different tuypes or something ?
21. haza1981 L-plater Joined: Sep 2007 newcastle/Hartlepool Posts: 42 1.1i t reg 1999 poseidon blue wolfrace alloys,

    #21 31st October 2007, 12:46

    got link to work ..i just clicked it rather then copying it. oops
22. mattchewone Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 West Sussex Posts: 5769 Passat Oil Burner

    #22 31st October 2007, 12:50

    The reasons people's go to the right is the have a different intake. Which means the filter goes on to a different place that is why.
23. alextoffie Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Bolton Posts: 1300 Mauritius blue VTR

    #23 31st October 2007, 12:52

    if the inlet is facing upwards on 1.1s, can't you get some samco hosing or something similar which will bend around from the main inlet and then let you connect the pipercross onto that... ?
24. mattchewone Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 West Sussex Posts: 5769 Passat Oil Burner

    #24 31st October 2007, 12:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by alextoffie if the inlet is facing upwards on 1.1s, can't you get some samco hosing or something similar which will bend around from the main inlet and then let you connect the pipercross onto that... ?

    This is what i am suggesting.
25. haza1981 L-plater Joined: Sep 2007 newcastle/Hartlepool Posts: 42 1.1i t reg 1999 poseidon blue wolfrace alloys,

    #25 31st October 2007, 13:32

    ok think i know kinda what to do . think im gonna have to take it to a garage and ask for advice.
    thanks guys
26. mattchewone Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 West Sussex Posts: 5769 Passat Oil Burner

    #26 31st October 2007, 13:35

    No worries let us no how you get on mate! I think some rep is needed for that help
27. Ben_L Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 Billericay, Essex (England) Posts: 6774 1.1.1i, 2.Mk2 VTR 3.Astra SRI 150

    #27 31st October 2007, 22:30

    The pipercross induction kit to fit the 1.1 SPI (single point injection) engine is the PK039 thats what I have. Its pretty pants for power infact it slows the car down but it fits dead easily and is tucked away. You basically fit the induction kit to the top bit of the air box. The one you have isn't suitable for you engine ufortunately. Think its a different story with a MPI (Multi-Point Injection) engine. Heres a pic of my 1.1i SPI engine...
    
    
28. Wayne Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2007 Powys Posts: 15348 Icelandtic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS 53 Turbo

    #28 31st October 2007, 22:50

    garage should give some good advice on how to fit or ask them to fit it for you.
29. haza1981 L-plater Joined: Sep 2007 newcastle/Hartlepool Posts: 42 1.1i t reg 1999 poseidon blue wolfrace alloys,

    #29 7th November 2007, 13:34

    thanks for the pic saxmaniac......how do i know wether mine is single point or multiple injection. I think mine looks like yours but as far as i know its a 99 t reg 1.1 i .....also known as 1.1 x . wonder why it made your car slower?