EBC Greenstuff Pads.....

  1. #1
    I'm after a set of front one's for my VTR.

    However.......

    According too Ebay there's 3 different type of saxo caliper.

    1. ATE
    2. Girling

    Or....

    3. Lucas

    Can someone shed any light on this and how do I find out what type I have.

    Here's the link for more clarity....

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CITROEN-SAXO-V...QQcmdZViewItem

    Cheers.
  2. #2
    Take a photo of the pads you have now and post them up.

    I have used these pads and they were quite poor. There really just a stock pad, nothing special at all. Just get a set of normal cheap Ferodo DS pads.
  3. #3
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AXracing View Post
    Take a photo of the pads you have now and post them up.

    I have used these pads and they were quite poor. There really just a stock pad, nothing special at all. Just get a set of normal cheap Ferodo DS pads.
    Cheers mate, think I will now.
  4. #4
    dont get them mate they are shit imo. the compound is way too hard for the size of the saxo discs as they dont warm up quick enough for them to reach their full braking potential. becasue they dont warm up enough they create a glaze over the pad and this makes that braking even worse
  5. #5
    i would go for mintex pads mate
  6. #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxoboy07 View Post
    i would go for mintex pads mate
    agreed. id go for the 1144's if you can afford them (i think there about £47) which are good. the standard mintext ones are good aswell but you get alot more brake dust coming off them
  7. #7
    i agree with the above comment. im running with greenstuff pads at the moment and find that they are not that much better than the standard pads i had on before. i now have some mintex m1144's to put on with the gti180 calipers and discs, so i will have to get them on when i get some spare time.
  8. #8
    My old Vtr had ATE calipers - if in doubt check 'em!
  9. #9
    ive heard good on mintex im running ebc greenstuff pads or grooved disc never had a problem great stopping
  10. #10
    greenstuff pads are good but the brake dust is wank
  11. #11
    EBC green stuff pads are about on par with some standard replacement pads when it comes to performance. They really are nothing special. The bad thing about EBC green stuff is they cost so much more than a standard pad. Also EBC green stuff pads do not last long.
  12. #12
    i use the mintex with standard disks, work very well,
  13. #13
    ebc shitstuff they should be named.

    personally wouldnt ever recommend fitting them.
  14. #14
    Yeah i ait heard not good about the greenstuff pads yet all my mates have complained about them and for the cost they aint worth it..
  15. #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mark51 View Post
    dont get them mate they are shit imo. the compound is way too hard for the size of the saxo discs as they dont warm up quick enough for them to reach their full braking potential. becasue they dont warm up enough they create a glaze over the pad and this makes that braking even worse
    disagree with that got both greenstuff pads and discs front and back and are very good as long as you take the time to run them in !!!!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GRAHAM2000VTR View Post
    ive heard good on mintex im running ebc greenstuff pads or grooved disc never had a problem great stopping
    agree since we've uprated from standard to ebc the brakes are 100% better !!! had mintex on my landrover discovery and they squealed like a pig at slaughter and glazed the disks and had to change them all !!!!
  16. #16
    i go some fast road pads called 'pagid' i'd never heard of them before till a mate recommened them they are pretty good for the money only £33 from motorscope in northallerton.
  17. #17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mark51 View Post
    dont get them mate they are shit imo. the compound is way too hard for the size of the saxo discs as they dont warm up quick enough for them to reach their full braking potential. becasue they dont warm up enough they create a glaze over the pad and this makes that braking even worse
    exactly wot i thought mate i used tarox with tarox 40 groove discs front and rear nd in 2 words fucking mint
  18. #18
    Check for a logo on your calipers
  19. #19
    To the people that say Green stuff is good. Can I ask you why you think there good? As from my they wore out very fast. When they were working they over heated frighteningly quickly. But even from cold they were not great. I used them in a sprint car for a while and just found they were useless. I gave up on them when the friction materiel fell off. Even when they were working they never really had the bight I expected. Even have had them set fire two times. Really they were useless. The standard Ferodo DS road pads for me works much better as they lasted longer. Never got them to over heat on a sprint. But most of all had a lot more bite. And to be hones the Ferodo DS are still poor pads. Just a lot better than green stuff. Get a nice set of 3500 plus for a good pad if your a track nut. But for the road I would also recommend mintex m1144's.

    As for grooved discs. They can actually loose you stopping power. The groves are there to stop your pads glazing over if you start over heating your brakes. You only need a handful a grooved to do this. The old kit car spec rally cars only had 4 groves on for instance. Just think about it, the more groves you have the less of the pad is contacting the disc and so the less power you have.
  20. #20
    Most of these brake things are like the resister chips and power fuel additives. As far as performance goes they tend to do nothing or loose some. But the amount of people who have gone out and swear how great they are. That is like Green stuff pads and 600,000 grove discs. Really there nothing special or actually very poor.
  21. #21
    I remember having greenstuff pads and ebc discs on my old vtr. Took if for a thrash round 7-8 miles of country lanes then came to stop at a junction and couldn't!

    The fade was terrible, bite almost non existant. Should not be marketed as a fast road pad because they just aren't!

    I now have Mintex 1144 in my WP 6 pots and they have never let me down.
  22. #22
    defintely go for mintex pads
  23. #23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    I remember having greenstuff pads and ebc discs on my old vtr. Took if for a thrash round 7-8 miles of country lanes then came to stop at a junction and couldn't!

    The fade was terrible, bite almost non existant. Should not be marketed as a fast road pad because they just aren't!

    I now have Mintex 1144 in my WP 6 pots and they have never let me down.
    tut tut "thrashing around" country roads that fade in such a short distance take you went for fuel on the way home !!!

    i dont even get that kind of fade after over a couple of hours off roading -and the freelander relies heavily on abs and traction control - and the pads are not very good ftw
  24. #24
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AXracing View Post
    Most of these brake things are like the resister chips and power fuel additives. As far as performance goes they tend to do nothing or loose some. But the amount of people who have gone out and swear how great they are. That is like Green stuff pads and 600,000 grove discs. Really there nothing special or actually very poor.
    Have to agree. I bought a set of Green stuff pads to try them out as people were raving about them. Wasn't impressed.

    Most modifications to disks are related to heat. Work to minimise the effect of that and you don't have to spend masses. On the 205 track car I used to run I used Halford brake discs (12 each) and Mintex Race pads (I forget which) that worked at high temperatures

    Combined with yoko 048R tyres it was rare to find myself outbraked by brake setups costing a significant amount more. And no fade.
  25. #25
    even worse are the ebc grooved and grilled discs lol!

    about as much stopping force as having a quaver under each wheel
  26. #26
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    even worse are the ebc grooved and grilled discs lol!

    about as much stopping force as having a quaver under each wheel
    legend.
  27. #27
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bullit View Post
    legend.
    rep me then biach
  28. #28
    i think there ok better than standard thats good enough for me - shit breaks try older vw golfs your blessed in the sax ftw !!!!!
  29. #29
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by scottyvtr View Post
    i think there ok better than standard thats good enough for me - shit breaks try older vw golfs your blessed in the sax ftw !!!!!
    my 12 halfords spethals are better than the green shit before.
  30. #30
    tbh i know there not the best, but i think there alright.. alot better than whatever the car had on it before hand. tho ill be tryin the mintex when i get a vts...

    only downside ive found with mine is the fuckin brake dust!, not felt fade or anything on them but im an amazingly slow driver that doesnt need brakes to go down country roads because i drive like doris the 90 year old woman
  31. #31
    i have ebc green stuff on my gti-6 brakes and personally think there shit hot even mark51 was impressed with them
  32. #32
    mintex END OF STORY lol

    tbh someone make a dam POLL thread and put the brake pad brands and lets honestly see which ones gets the most votes i think mintex will be at the top .
  33. #33
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by djmartinp View Post
    mintex END OF STORY lol

    tbh someone make a dam POLL thread and put the brake pad brands and lets honestly see which ones gets the most votes i think mintex will be at the top .
    mintex are highly regarded as the best. the poll wont work as you have different caliper designs etc...

    and clueless noobs who think stuff is great because theyve never been in a car with proper brakes
  34. #34
    as said had mintex on my old motor had to change 'em all - discs pads front and rear - and would never put them back on any car i will ever own -fact !!!

    im even thinking of putting greenstuff on the big green machine but i can be certain it wont be mintex ftw !!!
  35. #35
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by scottyvtr View Post
    as said had mintex on my old motor had to change 'em all - discs pads front and rear - and would never put them back on any car i will ever own -fact !!!

    im even thinking of putting greenstuff on the big green machine but i can be certain it wont be mintex ftw !!!
    only person ive ever seen though with negative feedback about mintex. as opposed to ebshit where tons of people feel theyre as usefull as a hole in the head.
  36. #36
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    only person ive ever seen though with negative feedback about mintex. as opposed to ebshit where tons of people feel theyre as usefull as a hole in the head.

    LOLS

    greenstuff tbh should be renamed to brownstuff (for they are simply shit)

    mintex should be renamed to MINT (for they do the job they are supposed to do)
  37. #37
    is it just ebc pads that are shit or are the discs shit aswell.. ive got a pair of brand new front evo sport performance vented discs havent put them on yet was even gona sell them?
  38. #38
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    even worse are the ebc grooved and grilled discs lol!

    about as much stopping force as having a quaver under each wheel
    LOL
  39. #39
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Anders0n View Post
    LOL
    lol or well think i`l sell thm to some unlucky person
  40. #40
    So what's this like then...

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mintex-Front-D...QQcmdZViewItem

    My front discs and pads are going to need changing soon so I've been looking around a bit.
  41. #41
    not sure never really tried any other brakes apart from standard... just managed to get my hands on these drilled an grooved 1`s for cheap so i got them
  42. #42
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    only person ive ever seen though with negative feedback about mintex. as opposed to ebshit where tons of people feel theyre as usefull as a hole in the head.
    LOL ! you really pay over the odds for those pads 47 wrappers ftw just seen in a magazine Disco 1 mintex pads £13.98p omfg you right get what you pay for !!!!!!!!

    Why do they cost so much for a wee tiny car

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by djmartinp View Post
    LOLS

    greenstuff tbh should be renamed to brownstuff (for they are simply shit)

    mintex should be renamed to MINT (for they do the job they are supposed to do)
    Nah Mintex - costafortunex

    And on that bombshell im oot !!!!
  43. #43
    sorry, but i totally disagree.

    I have ebc green stuff pads and ebc discs all round and the car stops so much faster and there way sharper than the standard brakes!
    I never get brake fade with them, personally i think you must be driving like a totally idiot to fry any brakes in only 8 miles - ever heard of using your gears!
    Take an advanced driving course and that'l tell you how to "thrash" back roads properly and safely without hammering your brakes onat every corner, you'll save yourself a fortune on pads too lol.

    Mine make no noise either and i dont have a problem with brake dust, as i've herd people saying that they can be noisy and messy.

    Personally i think there great and i'll be sticking to them!

    sorry rant over!
  44. #44
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by scottyvtr View Post
    LOL ! you really pay over the odds for those pads 47 wrappers ftw just seen in a magazine Disco 1 mintex pads £13.98p omfg you right get what you pay for !!!!!!!!

    Why do they cost so much for a wee tiny car
    4 pots?

    i wouldnt let them anywhere near my car tbh
  45. #45
    maybe its something to do with greenstuff pads should be used with the ebc disks for full performance from them?

    mintex all the way though, swear by em tbh
  46. #46
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by smiith View Post
    maybe its something to do with greenstuff pads should be used with the ebc disks for full performance from them?
    Finally, someone talking some sence!! Thank god!

    Anyone who knows what there talking about would tell you that greenstuff pads are too tuff to use with standard discs.
    There specially made to work along side the discs, it even tells you that on the discs box!!

    But hey its each to their own, i really like the ebc braking systems i haven't tried mintex but dont think i'll be changing from ebc so prob wont. If i change my brakes again it will be for black diamond!!
  47. #47
    ive got a set of drilled and grooved ebc discs so mite put them on and try them... how much are the pads to go with them?
  48. #48
    Back ones are £38 from motorworld uk online. Only know cos ordered new ones today!!
    Front ones are round about £45ish!!
  49. #49
    used ebc discs and pads, hence why i say theyre shite.

    as have alot of people.

    and as for your comment, i do use the gears but when someone pulls out on you you dont think fuck must down shift aswell as brake lol!

    new brakes are also cheaper than a new gearbox
  50. #50
    True!!!
    But you never mentioned anyone pulling out infront of you!! oops lol

    Well when people dont pull out infront of you, just use your gears and engine braking and you'll not fry your brakes! lol

    We all like different components for our cars so lets call this debate quits eh??

    AS LONG AS WE STOP WHO CARES WHAT BRAKES WE USE TO DO IT!!

    I often throw an anchor out my window!!!! It beats any brakes!!
  51. #51
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jul2vtr View Post
    AS LONG AS WE STOP WHO CARES WHAT BRAKES WE USE TO DO IT!!
    you want to stop. so ebc shouldnt come into the answer then lol!

    at the end of the day brakes are what can keep you alive. thats why people ask about them, also why tons of people have given feedback stating how shit ebc are.

  52. #52
    the neg rep was removed btw

    you dont know more than me