Whining noise

1. JRwestcoast Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Preston Posts: 152 kitted mk1 saxo westcoast

   #1 8th November 2007, 09:53

   ive got a 1.4 8v west coast 199 v reg saxo, it has started making a quite loud whining noise especially in first gear but it carries on through the gears just gets quieter, it doestn make the noise whe it is in neutral and i rev it only when i am driving it..
   
   anyone have any idea what to check or what could be wrong?
   
   thanks
2. Vinny_VSX Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Bath/Warminster Posts: 2616 57 plate C2 VTS & a saxo 1.4

   #2 8th November 2007, 11:07

   Mine just started making this noise. I think it could be the gearbox, but then saying that mine only started when hit a badger the other day.
   
   Does your gearbox crunch when going into gear mate?
3. pjsaunders06 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Portsmouth Posts: 2882 54 Audi A4 Estate 1.9TDi

   #3 8th November 2007, 11:08

   gearbox thats what happened to mine today
4. JRwestcoast Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Preston Posts: 152 kitted mk1 saxo westcoast

   #4 8th November 2007, 11:29

   so new gearbox then??
   
   
   i hit a rabbit the other day mines only been doin it since then lol
5. pjsaunders06 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Portsmouth Posts: 2882 54 Audi A4 Estate 1.9TDi

   #5 8th November 2007, 11:38

   maybe its the rabbit he might be stuck
6. pjsaunders06 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Portsmouth Posts: 2882 54 Audi A4 Estate 1.9TDi

   #6 8th November 2007, 11:39

   yep or second hand one or reconditioned
7. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

   #7 8th November 2007, 13:13

   Get the car looked at before you part with you cash on a new or secondhand box, this could be something less expensive.
   
   If you really think it Is the box then find a gearbox specialist and get more than one opiuion as its gona work out expensive either way.
8. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

   #8 8th November 2007, 13:15

   Dont worry about it until it starts to crunch and wont go into gears..
   
   Mine has been rebuilt and still whines..lol
9. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

   #9 8th November 2007, 13:35

   Agree, until the point comes where you cant select gears Id carry on and put off changing the box. If you worried about the noise tho Id still have the car checked over, like I said it could turn out to be something else
10. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #10 8th November 2007, 13:49

    Exactly dude..
    
    It will probs last ages yet without any probs..
11. JRwestcoast Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Preston Posts: 152 kitted mk1 saxo westcoast

    #11 8th November 2007, 19:16

    driving home from work just before, it now wont stay in 2nd gear for very long.. every other gear is fine jsut 2nd...still whines though... HELPPP!!
12. JRwestcoast Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Preston Posts: 152 kitted mk1 saxo westcoast

    #12 9th November 2007, 23:13

    can anyone help??
13. ianc1982 Newbie Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 11

    #13 9th November 2007, 23:41

    hi ya there m8 its a common prob with the saxo gearbox they are abit weak and the bearings let go on them and when they start to go they whine and the reason it wont stay in second is for the same reason the bearings in the box are worn and causing the shafts that the gears are mounted to to move side to side causing it to jump outta gear . the box can be rebuilt which is what ive had done b4
14. ianc1982 Newbie Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 11

    #14 9th November 2007, 23:42

    I hope this helps m8
15. JRwestcoast Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Preston Posts: 152 kitted mk1 saxo westcoast

    #15 10th November 2007, 18:57

    so its not the clutch it the gearbox?
    
    how much roughly for a recond' box or a brand new one and fitting?
    
    cheers
16. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #16 10th November 2007, 19:00

    brand new box will be fuck loads from PSA - id expect 1k. recon boxes are about 400-500 depending on place.
    
    the whine of the box isnt a huge problem tbh, usually just one of the bearings, some whine and last forever.
17. JRwestcoast Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Preston Posts: 152 kitted mk1 saxo westcoast

    #17 10th November 2007, 19:09

    its not just whining though it wont go into second gear..
    
    so im looking at about 500 quid for a recond' box and fitting?>
18. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #18 10th November 2007, 19:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JRwestcoast its not just whining though it wont go into second gear.. so im looking at about 500 quid for a recond' box and fitting?>

    fitting will be more depending on place.
    
    just get yours refurbed.
19. Danhunt Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Co Durham/Hereford Posts: 3044 'Floz' Citroen saxo 1.1 [RIP], Escort XR3i, 306 Tu

    #19 10th November 2007, 19:21

    Mines been whining for about 11k and is still fine
20. user_8040 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2005 MaDchester Posts: 8432 Vts

    #20 10th November 2007, 19:50

    out of interest when did u buy the car and where?
21. JRwestcoast Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Preston Posts: 152 kitted mk1 saxo westcoast

    #21 11th November 2007, 07:54

    Danhunt - its not just whining it wont go into second gear now.
    
    B0t13 - bought the car about a month ago from a place near newcastle..
    
    
    how much would i be looking to refurb my 'box then?
22. MarkyG Established Member Joined: Jan 2005 Maldon, Essex Posts: 2470 '03 Posi Blue VTS (R.I.P) 11 Plate Peugeot 'thing'

    #22 12th November 2007, 08:40

    I had whining in my VTR which turned out to be the gearbox, but the big giveaway to me that made me think it was the gearbox is white smoke making its way out of the engine bay out the front grill.
    
    May well be different on a lower model, but i would definitely get it in to have it looked at.
23. JRwestcoast Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Preston Posts: 152 kitted mk1 saxo westcoast

    #23 13th November 2007, 21:37

    well i havtn ahd any white smoke, but it now wont go in 2nd at all and wont go in 4th now too, still whining like a stuck pig to!
    
    how much ould i be looking at to refurb my gearbox and re-fit etc etc
24. JRwestcoast Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Preston Posts: 152 kitted mk1 saxo westcoast

    #24 14th November 2007, 18:28

    my mates reckon that becasue my car is so low the driveshafts could be stopping the gearbox and breaking it that way... is this anywere near right or could be possible, i have no idea about this sort of thing!
    
    cheers
25. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #25 14th November 2007, 18:39

    Ride height wont effect how long a box lasts i dont think..
    
    Just go get yours looked at or buy a another one from ebay or something..
26. JRwestcoast Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Preston Posts: 152 kitted mk1 saxo westcoast

    #26 14th November 2007, 18:48

    so no-ones really had any prblems with lowered saxos and gearbox/driveshaft problems??
    
    how much woul di be lookin at to get mine reconditioned??
27. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #27 14th November 2007, 18:54

    Ah, having a really low Saxo like 40mm-60mm you may get CV joint problem as they are at an awkward angle but this wont make much difference to the box..
    
    To have yours reconned depending on the garage £400-£700..
    
    I would get another box from ebay or something, while your at it get a VTS box or a Series 1 106 Rallye box, shorter ratio's so better performance..:d
28. JRwestcoast Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Preston Posts: 152 kitted mk1 saxo westcoast

    #28 14th November 2007, 19:26

    so how much for a new or reconditioned vts box ?
    
    mines lowered 80mm front and back! but you ont think it wil matter to my gearbox...
29. JRwestcoast Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Preston Posts: 152 kitted mk1 saxo westcoast

    #29 17th November 2007, 09:45

    had it looked at this morning, linkages are all fine so it looks like the gearbox, ordering a recond' one monday hopefully, going to put a new clutch in while the gearbox is being put in, are standard manufacturers clutches the best bet?
30. TOMM Newbie Joined: Feb 2009 hampshire Posts: 6 Citroen saxo 1.1

    #30 19th June 2009, 17:31

    my 1.1i has just done then same been whining for a bit now whines like a bitch in 1st and wont go into second well goes in for a bit but the second you put power on it knoks into neutral
31. lharrowing Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2008 norwich Posts: 941 Citroen Saxo Westcoast MK1

    #31 20th June 2009, 21:37

    surely you u will get more strain on the box as the shafts are having to transmit the power through a more awkward angle but mainly it will be faster cv joint deterioration.
32. Oli_K Established Member Joined: Oct 2007 leeds/ponte carlo/rawdon Posts: 2354 vt?

    #32 22nd June 2009, 12:35

    could this just be the thrush bearing or whatever its called ?