Newman Cams Group Buy **POSTED - LATE ARRIVALS WILL BE SENT SEPERATELY NOW**

  1. #1
    Righty Ho!!

    I have been in contact with newman regarding some discount on cams for the vts/gti, as well, everyone likes money off and from reading recent threads, alot of people would like to get cams of one duration/spec or another.

    The details i have so far are that -
    VTS/Gti
    £225 (including vat & postage)

    1.4 & 1.6 8V
    £105 plus VAT & Postage, so thats £135.13

    CAM FOLLOWERS
    25% off which ever you order, so prices are as follows -

    hydraulic = £105.75 (excluding postage, but don't need this if ordering cams)
    mechanical = £225.60 (as above)

    CAMBELTS
    25% discount on these, so prices are -

    8V = £13.22 (as followers)
    16V = £39.22 (as followers)


    SPRINGS
    Unforntuantly the don't do springs

    PAYMENT
    I had a breif chat regarding payment and they don't do paypal, so its either a cheque or phone up with a card, or a banker's draft can be done (similar to a cheque).

    Tho this can all get messy as it will get to them in bits and peices, so what i am propossing is that when the time comes, everyone writes out a cheque for the correct amount and then puts there name and username, address and what there after on a peice of paper and post this to me, then once i have reiced everyones details and cheque, i will then post this in one go to newman.

    hope this is all good for everyone.

    On the list please state 16V or 8V and if followers are wanted.

    and that money with order or before final payment deadline, then the oder will be dispatched within 14 days of final order deadline.

    I know it's nearly Xmas, thats why i have said to Newman it will be for the beginning of the new year, as by then people will have some (enough to buy the cams) money.

    Oh, this is also your choice of phase cam. e.g. PH1, PH2, PH3, PH4 or PH5

    So, who would be interested in this?

    LIST

    16V CAM LIST
    1. Jeeves_101 - why of course
    2. raunchz - cheque recieved
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. VTS_Pjsaunders06 - cheque recieved
    5. saxolee1986
    6. CJonny - cheque recieved
    7. Pricey
    8. motobruce- cheque recieved
    9. Joshap1 -cheque recieved
    10. menmen - PAID
    11. pug205gti87
    12. carbontom PH3's (from rallye reg) -GTI
    13. Bertie
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - cheque recieved
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - cheque recieved
    17. The_Notorious_C_A_T - PAID
    18. -Joe- PH3'S + Followers "VTS"
    19. ViperGFX
    20. camaro123-cheque recieved
    21. DAN-VTS - cheque recieved
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - paid direct
    25. ricky p
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ - cheque recieved
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers
    30. dannyhall - cheque recieved
    31. Davevts - cheque recieved
    32. Slammed_ax -paid direct
    33. GTI_TC
    34. alexastall3

    35. westy2k1 - VTS - cheque recieved

    RED = out by my reckoning, not been on for ages!!
  2. #2
    Im waiting for the " are they like 708s? " post. Pffft 708s....

    Anyway, that is a bargain and they are good cams. Excellent rep and Prodrive use them in there Ferrari race cars.

    I can't buy them but good on you for making a group buy mate.
  3. #3
    lol, but are they like 708's?

    there was a group buy on them already but no results have come back yet on how good they are, whereas 708s have been tried and tested..

    explaination on diff phases too?
  4. #4
    lol yes the ph3s are like 708s but have 6 degrees more duration on both inlet and exhaust but similar valve lift. 10mm i think.
  5. #5
    ah yes i was going to try get one of these going, whens the latest we can buy? belly_vts seemed to get good results less bhp than 708s but more torque iirc

    wheres the group buy on 708s?
  6. #6
    i mean on the newmans cams... think it was ssc with some sax-p people ordering too..
  7. #7
    Possibly and probably interested, especially since it is for beggining of new year, time to raise the cash etc. HOWEVER I know nothing about the Newmans ones, so if anyone who can answer the following would be great:
    For a 2001 VTS with 40k miles and only induction kit and zorst system, is there anything else I'd need for them? (Apart from a remap once they're in... new belt maybe?) Or can I just take the old ones out, whack these in, get it mapped and thats it?? Thats for the ones that are the equivelent to 708s, (want a pretty good gain or whats the point)

    If yes to the above than I'm 100% in, otherwise still on the line depending on what else I need etc...
  8. #8
    jazz im in the exact same position, ill have a raceland/green IK and zost system when ill be buyin cams. tho i think ull need a fanimold and decat too when getting a map for best results..

    and was ur car RR with the raceland on? as 126bhp sounds right with it fitted, really good if not..
  9. #9
    id be interested around christmas time
  10. #10
    How much we looking at then for them?

    5 people = £265 + £10 postage?
    10 people = £235 + £10 postage?

    I'd definatley be in for this !!

    Just let me know how we go about paying etc.

    LIST
    1. Jeeves_101
    2. raunchz - PH3's
    3.
    4.
    5.

    Also, any chance of getting a good price on some new followers from Newmans? If not then i'll get them myself from Newmans.
  11. #11
    PH3 are higher lift & longer duration than 708s but will still fit without any extra modification to the head / fueling system.

    VTS has adjstable pulleys so all you need is a pair of cams.

    VTR you'll need to buy a set of adjustable pulleys too but you only need a single cam (obviously )

    I'd recommend getting a new cambelt when you get them fitted. Its not a necessity but better safe than sorry
  12. #12
    Ive been looking for cam's now for a while, i would be straight in there witout a doubt but mines only a furio!!
  13. #13
    Quite interested in them matey (as you prob already know).

    Just one n00bie question. Where do these stand against Piper/Catcams/Kent.
    Better or worse as Ive heard mixed reviews on them in the past.
  14. #14
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mystic View Post
    PH3 are higher lift & longer duration than 708s but will still fit without any extra modification to the head / fueling system.

    VTS has adjstable pulleys so all you need is a pair of cams.

    VTR you'll need to buy a set of adjustable pulleys too but you only need a single cam (obviously )

    I'd recommend getting a new cambelt when you get them fitted. Its not a necessity but better safe than sorry
    My Q answered! Rep for you mate!
  15. #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by b0t13 View Post
    jazz im in the exact same position, ill have a raceland/green IK and zost system when ill be buyin cams. tho i think ull need a fanimold and decat too when getting a map for best results..

    and was ur car RR with the raceland on? as 126bhp sounds right with it fitted, really good if not..
    yeah at this moment in time I've only got the Raceland on, but in december I'm getting zorst, 4-2-1 and sports cat, will make sure its all done before I even contemplate camming it! And yes mine was rolling Roaded @ Surrey at 126bhp and 114lb ft without the Raceland kit, dude said mine was the best std TU 16v he'd seen in ages (but they ALL say that), with it on it feels even better. Really want these cams now, especially as I'll just need to get the belt changed and map it

    Add my name to the list! I'm in for PH3 cams
  16. #16
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Quite interested in them matey (as you prob already know).

    Just one n00bie question. Where do these stand against Piper/Catcams/Kent.
    Better or worse as Ive heard mixed reviews on them in the past.
    Be different, buy and find out.

    People, you will need all breathing parts to get the best out of them.

    There is a good thread on here with info. I would change h'gasket if high mileage, water pump, idler, tensioner and belt. And also cam oil seals. If your head has been skimmed, this makes your pistons sit closer to the valves @ TDC so you will need to know how much was skimmed off before dialing in the cams.
  17. #17
    Thing is though I want to make sure that I dont run into issues later on at the
    same time lol. Being different is cool, but also sticking to known methods is always
    a safe bet.

    Also the cams seem a bit too cheap imo.
  18. #18
    they are normally £300 + VAT + delivery - so they are about the same price as 708's
  19. #19
    if there is one already on ssc mayswel join them
  20. #20
    I know what you mean Rush.

    My Piper BP285's are getting mapped this week and im shitting it! (laugh out loud)

    The good thing about Catcams is they are short duration and high lift.

    These newmans are good price they would be about £250 delivered if 10 peeps buys. Catcams are about £320 iirc?

    Sorry to spam the thread too guys, forgive me.
  21. #21
    http://www.newman-cams.com/

    Worth a look...
  22. #22
    i got 150@fly and 133@wheel with these

    asap_legend also has them in and made 161@fly and 139@wheel.

    so i think there at the same standards as 708s
  23. #23
    need this in right section ftw!
  24. #24
    how much you looking at for a re-map?
  25. #25
    i think it's around £450 with chipwizards. I'm not going to get it remapped anywhere else, as wayne has good feedback from people !
  26. #26
    my remap from chipwizards was 475
  27. #27
    i have had no problems with them at all, good cams. chip wizards is the only place i would go aswel, was excellent and didnt take too long
  28. #28
    Up north you could try hiflow heads, their out to the east of Edinburgh

    or GMC in Dumfries & Galloway too
  29. #29
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by belly_VTS View Post
    my remap from chipwizards was 475
    ...Angel tuning will map it for 240, with mobile fitting. Btw really nice results with the Newmans, looks like they're worth going for.

    Why do we need to do this on SSC? I'm sure you'll generate more than enough interest on here.... Example you'll have 5+ peeps in a day or two lol!
  30. #30
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jazz_360 View Post
    ...Angel tuning will map it for 240, with mobile fitting. Btw really nice results with the Newmans, looks like they're worth going for.

    Why do we need to do this on SSC? I'm sure you'll generate more than enough interest on here.... Example you'll have 5+ peeps in a day or two lol!
    why because we get tehm cheaper if there is more of us? you got a real hatred or something going lol j/k

    al have a think see if i do really want them
  31. #31
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mystic View Post
    Up north you could try hiflow heads, their out to the east of Edinburgh

    or GMC in Dumfries & Galloway too
    be quicker for me to get to gmc
  32. #32
    is daztek not up edinburgh way?
  33. #33
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS View Post
    why because we get tehm cheaper if there is more of us? you got a real hatred or something going lol j/k

    al have a think see if i do really want them
    Lol hatred? Eh?? no... just that I haven't joined them and would rather it done here
    You having second thoughts?? NoOo, at this price its gotta be done..
  34. #34
    Specially at the 10+ price - i'm probably not going to fit them until around Easter time, but had planned on getting Newmans PH3's anyway as they are slightly wilder than 708's, so any saving is a gain for me !!
  35. #35
    where bouts is angel tuning like jazz? might be worth alook if nobody from her here used them.



    tbh, the price is alot better than when we had the group buy, think we had to have 15+ to get them for 225
  36. #36
    this will be to go ahead in the new year, end of january time i think would be good. Will update with more info tomorrow hopefully, but just after a list of those interested in this.

    LIST
    1. Jeeves_101
    2. raunchz - PH3's
    3.
    4.
    5.
  37. #37
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by belly_VTS View Post
    where bouts is angel tuning like jazz? might be worth alook if nobody from her here used them.



    tbh, the price is alot better than when we had the group buy, think we had to have 10+ to get them for 225
    http://www.angeltuning.co.uk/
    Engine remapping prices seem really good tbh. They specialise in diesels I think, but are more than happy to do petrol cars made in or after 1999. Don't have a massive rep among Saxo users, but I've contacted them before and they reckon they can get 10% increase on a standard 16v. Worth giving them a call, see what they can do for a cammed one. Outlets all over the place, plus mobile fitting

    If we keep this thread active I'm we'll have 10 people by end of next week (don't hold me to that though ) I'm really up for this... would be great to see how our cars stack up to Catcam'd ones.
  38. #38
    LIST
    1. Jeeves_101
    2. raunchz - PH3's
    3.b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4.
    5.
  39. #39
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jazz_360 View Post
    http://www.angeltuning.co.uk/
    Engine remapping prices seem really good tbh. They specialise in diesels I think, but are more than happy to do petrol cars made in or after 1999. Don't have a massive rep among Saxo users, but I've contacted them before and they reckon they can get 10% increase on a standard 16v. Worth giving them a call, see what they can do for a cammed one. Outlets all over the place, plus mobile fitting

    If we keep this thread active I'm we'll have 10 people by end of next week (don't hold me to that though ) I'm really up for this... would be great to see how our cars stack up to Catcam'd ones.
    i would get it mapped at their price just dont know how good they are and how well the car would run! they dont have rollers to test it to get it running right..
    or dont they need them?

    anyone ever used them?
  40. #40
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by b0t13 View Post
    LIST
    1. Jeeves_101
    2. raunchz - PH3's
    3.b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3
    5.
    I'm in
  41. #41
    you going to put this in the right section
  42. #42
    get ya name down stevey
  43. #43
    GMC dont map standard ecu's
    angel tuning is just a generic chip not a proper remap so dont waste your cash.
    got a tip to get it cheaper, take an ecu with you that has already been mapped, he will copy the program and tweek it, i got mine for £350 at chipwizards
  44. #44
    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=30 move it here ftw
  45. #45
    LIST
    1. Jeeves_101
    2. raunchz - PH3's
    3.b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3
    5.frankie640 - PH3
  46. #46
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by williamsvts View Post
    GMC dont map standard ecu's
    angel tuning is just a generic chip not a proper remap so dont waste your cash.
    got a tip to get it cheaper, take an ecu with you that has already been mapped, he will copy the program and tweek it, i got mine for £350 at chipwizards
    Angel Tuning- On their site it says they do both Chip tuning and remapping. I've dropped them an e-mail to see which one they really do. It did seem a bit cheap for a remap tbh...
  47. #47
    LIST
    1. Jeeves_101
    2. raunchz - PH3's
    3.b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3
    5.frankie640 - PH3
    6.Dibz - PH3
  48. #48
    ^--- And so the list grows, good stuff... the more the better (cheaper).
  49. #49
    definately, if we can get 10+ then £200+VAT+delivery is a very good price for them !!!
  50. #50
    what happens if get 15 people not go cheaper
  51. #51
    Worth asking !!! I'm after some followers to go with them, would be good if could get them cheaper as well !!!!!
  52. #52
    Lets start a Sax-p 'Newmans CAM'paign, if we get hundreds of peeps we might all have to pay a tenner!
    (Would be nice though wouldn't it)
    Followers? Lol have no idea what they do, but if they're beneficial for getting the best out of the cams, would be interested.
  53. #53
    I think it's recommended to change the cam followers depeding on the mileage of the engine, the engine I'm going to put the cams in has done 70k, so I'm going to change them.
  54. #54
    right iv read through this thread and im a bit confused if i want a cam for my vts without having todo headwork what one do i get? iv gt a raceland enclosed and a magnex cat back and in the near future i want a raceland manifold so what cam number would be best? and once fitted it would need a remap right?! cheers, Josh
  55. #55
    how much would followers be?
  56. #56
    On the newmans website they are listed as £120 , but I don't know if VAT needs to be added or not. If they can offer such a discount on cams (1/3 off if 10+) then surely they can do a good price on followers too
  57. #57
    Joshap1 - basically it depends on what you are after. Most people are going for PH3's as they are pretty much the wildest cams you can fit, without compromising on driveability and needing throttle bodies/rebated pistons etc. The PH3's offer a good increase in bhp and torque once fitted and mapped up.
  58. #58
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by joshap1 View Post
    right iv read through this thread and im a bit confused if i want a cam for my vts without having todo headwork what one do i get? iv gt a raceland enclosed and a magnex cat back and in the near future i want a raceland manifold so what cam number would be best? and once fitted it would need a remap right?! cheers, Josh
    Same boat as me lad, my S has only ind kit and will have full zorst/manifold by the end of the year, before I fit the cams. Everything else on mine will be totally stock when i cam it. Mystic said as long as your car is lowish miles, the PH3 is alright on the S with just the belt which should be replaced, I believe... and of course will need to be mapped. I'm hoping anyway...
  59. #59
    Also joshap1, on the website, they don't seem to do a PH2. So it's either a PH1 or PH3, and i reckon the gains fitting a PH1 wouldn't be worth the money, so if you're looking for cams then PH3's would prob be best for you. Depends on what future mod's you've got planned !!
  60. #60
    Newmans PH3 ftw
  61. #61
    rightie i got 82k on the clock with a cambelt changed at 76k so that wont need doing remaps not a problem there bout 400 quid right? so ph3 would be the best choice? with the ph3 and my force air and zorst wot power gains should i expect? cheers guys
  62. #62
    Enzo power!

    About 135bhp.


































    @ the wheels...
  63. #63
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Colin View Post
    Enzo power!
    lol joker, thanks now for my final question hopefully! how much would i expect to pay for fitment? would it be driveable after fitment without a remap for say 50 miles untill i get a remap?
  64. #64
    mayb around 150bhp at the fly.
  65. #65
    it'll idle pretty bad when first fitted so the timing will need to be adjusted slightly, so that driving to get it remapped isn't near impossible!!

    I don't know about fitting - mayb around 1 hours work? £60 ?

    Is fairly easy to do, should be able to do it yourself !!!!
  66. #66
    nah i dont trust myself with boiling the kettle so i wont do em myself It would be a recipe for disater! whens this deal close? im seriously intrested especially at £235
  67. #67
    I think it's looking to close mid Jan'ish time. So plenty of time to get the money together !!!!
  68. #68
    Well, the list is growing and there seems to be good interest, as i said, this will go ahead around the end on january so people can get money together, i will be intouch with them again tomorrow and see if i can get more discount than that of the 10+.

    LIST
    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - PH3's
    3.b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3
    5.frankie640 - PH3
    6.Dibz - PH3
  69. #69
    on there website they lis PH1, 3, 4 and 5 iirc.

    if you want a PH2 set up this can be done, they just use a PH1 and a PH2, but i can't remember which way round they use them.

    But tbh there's no point in anything but PH3's
  70. #70
    Is this deal for paid up members only?
    Cheers.
    Mat
  71. #71
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Pricey View Post
    Is this deal for paid up members only?
    Cheers.
    Mat
    do you mean premium members mate?, if so then no, its open to anyone with a vts or gti, but i will be in contact with newman tomorrow and see if vtr's and furio's can be done in the same buy.
  72. #72
    Quote:
    do you mean premium members mate?
    Yea thats what I meant mate
    Great news, put me down for a set please

    LIST
    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - PH3's
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3
    5. frankie640 - PH3
    6. Dibz - PH3
    7. Pricey - PH4

    Cheers.
    Mat
  73. #73
    you do know whats involved to fit and run the PH4's don't you?
  74. #74
    Sure do mate, all research has been done
  75. #75
    ok thats cool then.

    Well we have 7 names now, need 3 more for the £200 +vat+delivery price, tho i will see if we can get more discount for more people.

    LIST
    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - PH3's
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3
    5. frankie640 - PH3
    6. Dibz - PH3
    7. Pricey - PH4
  76. #76
    end of january is awesome plenty of time to get my ass into gear hahah
  77. #77
    jeeves_101 - any chance of asking them if they can do a good price on the followers? They are listen on the website for £120.
  78. #78
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    jeeves_101 - any chance of asking them if they can do a good price on the followers? They are listen on the website for £120.
    i'll ask them mate, but am waiting on a reply to see if they will do a discount for the 1.4 and 1.6 8 Valvers, and then i'll see what can be done with the followers.

    Just don't want it to get to complicated.
  79. #79
    Yeh cool, i don't mind getting them from newmans myself, to keep things simple with the group buy.
  80. #80
    whats the latest date we can buy them then?
    you going to make a new thread in the correct section yet? might get more interest
  81. #81
    i need to sort my gearbox situation aswel
  82. #82
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS View Post
    whats the latest date we can buy them then?
    you going to make a new thread in the correct section yet? might get more interest
    not sure with regards to payment yet, as i'm planning on doing it for around the end of january, so it will be about then the deadline for paying, but i'm going to see what they would prefer.
  83. #83
    Oh wow, Newmans group buy! This sounds wicked! Oh wait I'm already on the list...
    Anyone thinking of camming their 16v should take a long hard look at this group buy... very interesting... will make your car faster.... Step up now, need more members on the list... the more who buy, the less we all pay
    *looks around* ...?
  84. #84
    if you can get the maximum discount im in

    LIST
    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - PH3's
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3
    5. frankie640 - PH3
    6. Dibz - PH3
    7. Pricey - PH4
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
  85. #85
    Can you get a deal on the followers as well? As iirc you should really replace them when fitting a new cam unless your engine is pretty low miles?
  86. #86
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T View Post
    Can you get a deal on the followers as well? As iirc you should really replace them when fitting a new cam unless your engine is pretty low miles?
    going to be phoning them tomorrow to get more details etc etc.

    like, will we get more discount for 15 people, can we get discount on followers and what about the 8 valve people.
  87. #87
    do they do vernier pullys too as im after a set and will get catcams if they dont.
  88. #88
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by my_vtech_eater View Post
    do they do vernier pullys too as im after a set and will get catcams if they dont.
    vts's have adjustable pulleys mate.
  89. #89
    so just to confirm theres been chat bout new pulleys and followers i wont need these will i? just the cam and a remap?
  90. #90
    yeah, you can buy JUST the cams and then get it re-mapped.

    you don't have to buy the pulleys (dont know if you can for the s) or the followers.
  91. #91
    sweet on that note then

    LIST
    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - PH3's
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3
    5. frankie640 - PH3
    6. Dibz - PH3
    7. Pricey - PH4
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1
  92. #92
    yes but piper and catcams do vernier pullys that are light weight and are more accurate for timing
  93. #93
    do newman make vernier pulleys?
  94. #94
    no, newman don't make pulleys.

    If your really wanting new pulleys then get some piper or catcam ones, tho i dont really think you need them tbh, standard 'S' ones are fine.

    LIST
    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - PH3's
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3
    5. frankie640 - PH3
    6. Dibz - PH3
    7. Pricey - PH4
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1
  95. #95
    would love some for the vts but i dont know anywhere in west sussex that does remaps :O and if their are how good they are
  96. #96
    sorry forgot the cam choice!
    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - PH3's
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3
    5. frankie640 - PH3
    6. Dibz - PH3
    7. Pricey - PH4
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
  97. #97
    update

    See Post 1
  98. #98
    What else would have to be upgraded?
  99. #99
    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - PH3's
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3
    5. frankie640 - PH3
    6. Dibz - PH3
    7. Pricey - PH4
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10.garysvts (vts) ph3
  100. #100
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Vinny_VSX View Post
    What else would have to be upgraded?
    you can just stick the cam in vinny, nout else needed, well a new cambelt is!
  101. #101
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeeves_101 View Post
    you can just stick the cam in vinny, nout else needed, well a new cambelt is!
    Ooooo, I will have a little think about this. Cheers jeeves

    P.s I still have the 13" badboy alloys on
  102. #102
    hahaha, they are awesome. NOT

    WE NOW HAVE 10 PEOPLE FOR THE VTS CAMS!! tho more can join

    LIST
    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - PH3's
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3
    5. frankie640 - PH3
    6. Dibz - PH3
    7. Pricey - PH4
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10.garysvts (vts)
  103. #103
    LIST
    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - PH3's
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3
    7. Pricey - PH4
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10.garysvts (vts)
  104. #104
    do you get a performance cambelt with the cams?

    how much are followers?
  105. #105
    followers where 120 i think mate
  106. #106
    can we use the standard vernier pulleys?
  107. #107
    belt is extra mate.

    followers are normally 120 for hydraulic.

    yes, standard vts pulleys are fine.
  108. #108
    how much for belt?
  109. #109
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by my_vtech_eater View Post
    how much for belt?
    there site says about £45 i think, will see if i can get discount on that too
  110. #110
    I'm in for some followers at 25% off £120+VAT, £90+VAT, so £105.75 !!!

    LIST
    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3
    7. Pricey - PH4
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10.garysvts (vts)
  111. #111
    why do you need followers?
    will they make the cams perform better?
  112. #112
    you don't need followers, some just prefer to get new ones.

    don't forget, ALL prices exclude VAT.
  113. #113
    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers
    7. Pricey - PH4
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10.garysvts (vts)

    I know youve got loads to worry about mate but what about springs? Thanks.
  114. #114
    don't think newman do springs, tho i will check and get back.

    so, i have prices/deals for :-

    16v cams
    8v cams
    followers

    will look in to belts and springs.
  115. #115
    jeeves_101 - you're being a god with this group buy !!!!!
  116. #116
    i'd rather buy a cheaper price than the listed price, so i thought i'd help out others by trying to get stuff cheaper!
  117. #117
    still needs to be in right section, not putting my name down till last min give me time to fully decide
  118. #118
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS View Post
    still needs to be in right section, not putting my name down till last min give me time to fully decide
    must be in the right section already, 10 places has been filled already
  119. #119
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeeves_101 View Post
    i'd rather buy a cheaper price than the listed price, so i thought i'd help out others by trying to get stuff cheaper!

    I'm grateful !! I was planning on paying full whack for the cams + followers after Christmas anyway!! Now the extra money will go towards some Group N Mounts !!
  120. #120
    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers
    7. Pricey - PH4
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10.garysvts (vts)


    YES, loving the fact that we got 10 people now, I'm sure more will see the light shortly. And yes, a discount on the replacement belt would be an added bonus, so we can get out cams, whack em in, map it and go out on the road and do the business

    Good stuff all.
  121. #121
    im gettin my vts at the weekend. if they are 200 i will have a set. so what are the best ones ? ph3 for a vts? are they same sort of spec as 708's. how do we pay the money?

    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers
    7. Pricey - PH4
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10.garysvts (vts)
    11.pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
  122. #122
    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers
    7. Pricey - PH4
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10.garysvts (vts)
    11.pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless

    Interested for £200 for a pair, im after the VTS cams (obviously) and the ph3 if they are similar to 708s
  123. #123
    Yeh, PH3's are slightly wilder than 708's, but still okay on standard internals !! Is probably the best to get, unless you plan on TB's later on.
  124. #124
    12 people in a matter of days, by new year this group buy might be massive? Good price already jeeves, but if we hit say 20 people, will there be another decrease? Just curious mate. And keep us informed with the belts!

    Looking good so far...
  125. #125
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jazz_360 View Post
    12 people in a matter of days, by new year this group buy might be massive? Good price already jeeves, but if we hit say 20 people, will there be another decrease? Just curious mate. And keep us informed with the belts!

    Looking good so far...
    am still deciding whats current price, i think they should discount more if 20 if there is 19 and i aint got my name al put it down haha
  126. #126
    will see what i can sort out, tho we more than likely be after the weekend, just too busy at the moment.
  127. #127
    which ones are best for a vtr?

    with induction kit, 4-1, de-cat,

    will be remapped too.

    want cams for best mix of power and torque, not all top end power in fuck all of the rev range
  128. #128
    You'll want either the PH2 or PH3 cam. I'd personally go for the PH3 cam as it'll give you more power, but you should still get good power through the revs.
  129. #129
    good do, what else would i NEED on my vtr IE: pulley?, followers?

    other goodies that would make a worth while improvment for the remap
  130. #130
    I don't know much about vtr's. But the pulley on them isn't adjustable, so for best results I think you'll need an adjustable pulley to get the most out of the cams when getting remap.

    Whereas VTS's have adjustable pulleys standard which allows retarding and advancing of the timing to gain either more power or driveability (i think as I've read it)

    I think Vtr's may need different valve springs, i think stiffer, for wild'ish cams.
    Someone else will be able to correct/clarify this though, as I havn't looked into it for Vtr's.
  131. #131
    cheers,

    anyone else shed any light on this a to what i would need to get the cams running reliable and to get the most out of them?
  132. #132
    jeves how 'wild' is the cam for the 8v model??
  133. #133
    just reading the GMC website about cams and it looks like anyone wanting cams for a VTR will need

    Adjustable pulley £100 (GMC)
    new followers £X (Newmans group buy)
    stronger valve springs £45 (GMC)
    new cam seal may be a good idea
    just added gmc prices for a guide.
  134. #134
    I'd get the cam seal, I think it's part number 023644 from Citroen. Can't be over £5 i wouldn't think.
  135. #135
    exactly so definatly worth changing
  136. #136
    Right guys would the ph3's be ok with a Gti engine that will probably have done 95k if i have a cambelt change? or will i need other parts? as its quite high mileage.
  137. #137
    I'd change to followers aswell. And whilst the cambelt is off, I'd change the water pump, and do the idlers aswell, might not need to do the idlers, but for the sake of £50 I would change them.
  138. #138
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    I'd change to followers aswell. And whilst the cambelt is off, I'd change the water pump, and do the idlers aswell, might not need to do the idlers, but for the sake of £50 I would change them.
    Ideal cheers mate.

    Well i wouldn't have them fitted until april/may, so that'll give me a chance to save up for the remap + other bits!

    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers
    7. Pricey - PH4
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)
  139. #139
    Also, will probably be best to replace the vts/gti camshaft oil seals, part number 080724 from Citroen - about £8.
  140. #140
    I think you'll definately need new springs mate and maybe followers tbh.
  141. #141
    Wouldn't you need to have the head off to change the valve springs on a vts/gti ??

    If you're going to take the head, then I'd put a 1.6 16v head off a C2, 307, 206.... on as a cheap BV head, re-tap the inlet manifold etc. to get the best out of the cams, and as you're going to pay £400+ to get remapped may as well do it now.

    But like all things, just depends on how far you want to go and how much £££££ you want to spend !!
  142. #142
    When does the group buy end? If its still on after christams im in!
  143. #143
    It's looking to end around mid/end of Jan, so get in on it !!!!!
  144. #144
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    Wouldn't you need to have the head off to change the valve springs on a vts/gti ??

    If you're going to take the head, then I'd put a 1.6 16v head off a C2, 307, 206.... on as a cheap BV head, re-tap the inlet manifold etc. to get the best out of the cams, and as you're going to pay £400+ to get remapped may as well do it now.

    But like all things, just depends on how far you want to go and how much £££££ you want to spend !!
    problem is . . . .i dont think you can fit saxo performance cams into a c2 head. not a 100% sure though
  145. #145
    I thought a few people had 708's in tu5jp4 heads, and run them so far without problems. I think that the cam lobes are a slightly different width, and the spacing is slightly different, but they still run okay in the jp4 head.

    I think there's some stuff about it on ssc, I'll have a little read.
  146. #146
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    Wouldn't you need to have the head off to change the valve springs on a vts/gti ??

    If you're going to take the head, then I'd put a 1.6 16v head off a C2, 307, 206.... on as a cheap BV head, re-tap the inlet manifold etc. to get the best out of the cams, and as you're going to pay £400+ to get remapped may as well do it now.

    But like all things, just depends on how far you want to go and how much £££££ you want to spend !!
    Yeh, forget the above, just read on ssc that it's not recommended to fit saxo cams in a tujp4 head!!!!
  147. #147
    could someone tell me if its worth getting some for a 1.4i saxo?
    And what else would i need/change if i bought some?
    a PM would be cool an rep given
  148. #148
    Yup think yoou can count me in guys!
  149. #149
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by evans1089 View Post
    could someone tell me if its worth getting some for a 1.4i saxo?
    And what else would i need/change if i bought some?
    a PM would be cool an rep given
    possibly mayswel source vtr engine (cheap enough) and cam that
  150. #150
    I'm interested on that, but could i choose duration?
  151. #151
    jeeves put me down for some ph3's. when do you need money by? sorry i'm lazy and haven't read through all 8 pages, and rarely visit this section so haven't seen the thread

    pm me buddy.
  152. #152
    hi iam getting a de-cat and maifold dastek chip what phase cams do i need
  153. #153
    ph3 would be the best mate, near identical to the 708's.
  154. #154
    Count me in, i have a vts 16v i want the PH3's.

    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers
    7. Pricey - PH4
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)[/QUOTE]
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
  155. #155
    on doing a gti/vts turbo'd engine, what phase cams will be most suitable ? Will have steel rods and forged pistons
  156. #156
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by -J7HRD- View Post
    on doing a gti/vts turbo'd engine, what phase cams will be most suitable ? Will have steel rods and forged pistons


    not sure on that one mate, best to do a bit of searching and digging, but iirc you dont wnat anything tooo wild, so mayne ph2's!! not 100% sure tho.
  157. #157
    PH3 are good alround performance cams, but if your internals are upgraded you might consider more extreme PH4.

    EDIT- or like jeeves said, maybe go easy and do ph2
  158. #158
    it is possible to run a really wild cam, but from what i've read (or can remember reading), you dont want to go too wild with the cams if you have a turbo.

    as wild = high comp and turbo = low comp
  159. #159
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeeves_101 View Post
    as wild = high comp and turbo = low comp
    Fair play. I'd imagine he can't go wrong with ph3 though, surely with his upgrades, but I know minus 10 about turbo'd saxos so can't really comment...
  160. #160
    how much of a pain in the arse would new follower be to replace if i got new ones in this group buy.

    im a novice mechanic nut know my way around an engine and am pretty sure i could change the cams no bother but wouldnt be able to time the engine?
  161. #161
    As far as I'm aware, they literally push in.

    So it's a matter for pulling the old ones out, and carefully pushing the new ones in. I read that a good way to do it, is to use a sucker to pull the old followers out.
  162. #162
    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers
    7. Pricey - PH4
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)[/quote]
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
  163. #163
    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers
    7. Pricey - PH4
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)[/quote]
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (preferabbly ph2 if not ph3)
  164. #164
    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers
    7. Pricey - PH4
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)[/quote]
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3)
  165. #165
    yeh, be a man and go PH3's !!!!
  166. #166
    im in, already got my dastek sat in my house somewhere

    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers
    7. Pricey - PH4
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)[/quote]
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3)
    17. Hecky - vts ph3 please
  167. #167
    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers
    7. Pricey - PH4
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)[/quote]
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3)
    17. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    18. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers

    May as well since it aint for a month or 2.

    whats the deal with the springs and belts?

    Sorry haven't read this much to be honest
  168. #168
    Haha, jeeves bet you didn't bank on this beeing so popular! You've got alot of work to do mate over the xmas period sorting this stuff out!
    *how we doing with the cambelts?
  169. #169
    I wander if newmans can do any better on their price if 20+ !!! lol
  170. #170
    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers
    7. Pricey - PH4
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)[/quote]
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3)
    17. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    18. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    19.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)

    whats the price atm? should give more discount for 20+ people like should get trade price imo

    wtf are followers?
  171. #171
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS View Post

    whats the price atm? should give more discount for 20+ people like should get trade price imo
    Totally agree mate, its got to be worth a shout!

    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers
    7. Pricey - PH4
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3)
    17. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    18. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    19.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
  172. #172
    so what do you reckon for my furio, ph2, or ph3?
  173. #173
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AliC View Post
    so what do you reckon for my furio, ph2, or ph3?
    Go for the PH3 mate and get your name down. Which means 20! *Discount jeeves..? At least ask them nicely with a kiss on the cheek... they might say yes.

    Steve- glad you finally put your name down lad!
  174. #174
    1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers
    7. Pricey - PH4
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3)
    17. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    18. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    19.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    20. ViperGFX - PH3s
  175. #175
    Must get a healthy discount with this many folk on the buy. AliC if he gets in on the action would make 21 with maybe more to come?

    Although I would bet a few people will end up pulling out though, but sometimes it can't be helped.
  176. #176
    right, from what i can see in the list, all the names are for those with vts's and there's 20 of us, so i will see what can be done.

    still waiting on a reply for the belts and springs, tho i'm finishing early tomorrow (from work) so will try and get on the blower to them.

    the 5, 10 and possibly 20 peeps discount applies to vts only, 1.4 and 1.6 8v are at the price stated in post 1 what ever the amount of people are interested.

    INFO FOR 8V's
    there isn't a ph2 for the 8v, as with the vts a ph2 is a mix of 1 and 3, can't do so on the 8v's.


    LIST OF PEOPLE FOR VTS CAMS
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - VTS
    7. Pricey - PH4 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3)
    17. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    18. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    19.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    20. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS

    if anony in the above list isn't after vts cams and wants the 8v cams, please stick your name in the following list.

    CAMS FOR 8 VALVERS
    1.
    2.
    3.
    4.
    5.
  177. #177
    i'd like the biggest they do for 16v and a price for all the extras i'd need too.
    think i'd need to change from hydraulic lifters etc.
  178. #178
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RICKYP-RPM View Post
    i'd like the biggest they do for 16v and a price for all the extras i'd need too.
    think i'd need to change from hydraulic lifters etc.
    the biggest they do is ph5, but thats a full race cam.

    you'd need, good head work, throttle bodies, standalone management, high comp forged piston and con rods, and a fair few other bits really.

    Oh, and it wouldn't be very user friendly, pretty much no power below 4000 rpm.
  179. #179
    il def have a set at 105 quid thats a bargain 1.6 8v
  180. #180
    jeeves_101 has a brilliant futurejeeves_101 has a brilliant futurejeeves_101 has a brilliant futurejeeves_101 has a brilliant futurejeeves_101 has a brilliant futurejeeves_101 has a brilliant futurejeeves_101 has a brilliant futurejeeves_101 has a brilliant futurejeeves_101 has a brilliant futurejeeves_101 has a brilliant futurejeeves_101 has a brilliant future

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    right, from what i can see in the list, all the names are for those with vts's and there's 20 of us, so i will see what can be done.

    still waiting on a reply for the belts and springs, tho i'm finishing early tomorrow (from work) so will try and get on the blower to them.

    the 5, 10 and possibly 20 peeps discount applies to vts only, 1.4 and 1.6 8v are at the price stated in post 1 what ever the amount of people are interested.

    INFO FOR 8V's
    there isn't a ph2 for the 8v, as with the vts a ph2 is a mix of 1 and 3, can't do so on the 8v's.


    LIST OF PEOPLE FOR VTS CAMS
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - VTS
    7. Pricey - PH4 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3)
    17. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    18. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    19.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    20. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS

    if anony in the above list isn't after vts cams and wants the 8v cams, please stick your name in the following list.

    CAMS FOR 8 VALVERS
    1.suvvysaxo 1.6 vtr ph3
    2.
    3.
    4.
    5.
  181. #181
    its good to see there's lots of interest for this.

    i'm finishing work early today, so will make a phone call and try and sort out everything regarding prices etc and what we can and can't have.

    watch this space....
  182. #182
    Top notch jeeves_101 !!!!
  183. #183
    i think they should do a discount lie and say we'll go to catcams if they dont
  184. #184
    lol, if you don't ak you don't get, it's be nice to get extra discount!! But tbh £200 + VAT + delivery is still a very good price !!!!!
  185. #185
    if a got ph4 for my turbo engine would i need any extra head work done? will have the forged pistons and steel rods, thanks
  186. #186
    I don't think you want a wild cam for a turbo engine, best bet is to search on http://www.saxosportsclub.com and have a look on there.

    If i recall you don't want wild cams as you'd get too much 'blow through' (if that's what you call it!!) Catcams do a specific turbo cam, so probably be best to go for one of those, as no point spending ££££ on you turbo conversion, then buying the wrong cams, just to save £100.

    I think standard cams are good until big power is made!
  187. #187
    i might have a boy beside me that wants one for his vtr so will no more maybe thursday or friday
  188. #188
    CAMS FOR 8 VALVERS
    1.AliC ph3 furio (2001, silver rocker)
    2.suvvysaxo 1.6 vtr ph3
    3.
    4.
    5.
  189. #189
    LIST OF PEOPLE FOR VTS CAMS
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH4 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3)
    17. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    18. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    19.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    20. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
  190. #190
    ok mate cheers, would ph3 be too much aswell?
  191. #191
    Right, just got off the phone to newman (or a guy there anyway) and as it stands this is what we have :-

    16V CAMS
    5 people = 225 + vat + postage
    10 people = 200 + vat + postage
    20 people = they said further discount seems unlikely as the price we have is what they charge to pro-engine builders and engine tunning companies, tho i'm not going to stop, just try again some other time.

    8V CAMS
    105 + vat + postage

    FOLLOWERS
    -25% Discount

    CAMBELTS
    yes we can have a discount, but the guy i spoke to deals with the cams and not belts, tho he said if enough people want belts then we'd be looking at around 20-25% discount.

    SPRINGS
    Unforntuantly the don't do springs

    PAYMENT
    I had a breif chat regarding payment and they don't do paypal, so its either a cheque or phone up with a card.

    Tho this can all get messy as it will get to them in bits and peices, so what i am propossing is that when the time comes, everyone writes out a cheque for the correct amount and then puts there name and username, address and what there after on a peice of paper and post this to me, then once i have reiced everyones details and cheque, i will then post this in one go to newman.

    hope this is all good for everyone.
  192. #192
    LIST OF PEOPLE FOR VTS CAMS
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH4 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3)
    17. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    18. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    19.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    20. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS

    CAMS FOR 8 VALVERS
    1.AliC ph3 furio (2001, silver rocker)
    2.suvvysaxo 1.6 vtr ph3
    3.
    4.
    5.
  193. #193
    so how much is a new belt with the discount, they should do the 16v cams £200 incl vat imo i would be happy with that!
  194. #194
    well, the cambelt is un sure amount at the momment, as the guy i spoke to wasn't dave newman, it was someone else.

    and yeah, i think a wee bit more discount would be good, i will try again nearer the time, as people are going to come and go, tho i hope they don't go.

    i think cambelts with that discount will be about 33 + vat etc
  195. #195
    cool, well for that price i am certanly in, there will be a few drop out but can see more joining in tbh
  196. #196
    agree totally steve.

    by jan there's deffo people that have pulled out, but hopefully more will join.

    and i think i'm doing well as to get so much in to one group buy.
  197. #197
    so how much is the postage gona be? Still a good price for the ph3 although i will need to get it mapped, thats the only problem!
  198. #198
    i wonder if we all get our cams fitted and then tryed to sort a date to get them mapped/ tuned we could get a discount on that aswell . would anyone be able to find out
  199. #199
    thats all well and good for you's lol but i dont fancy driving the whole way over to where ever it is!
  200. #200
    sorry forgot to add, what does everyone want to do for the payment method?
  201. #201
    I like the idea of all writing a cheque, putting in a note with what we'r after, sending it to jeeves_101. Then he sends them all off to newmans. I think it'll be much easier this way !!!
  202. #202
    pretty much all info is in post 191.

    i will phone newman again at a later date regarding any other further details etc etc, such as cost of postage, exact discount for cambelts and to see if anything more can be done to the price of the cams.
  203. #203
    just added mayself to the list number 21. i have a vts and want the ph3 LIST OF PEOPLE FOR VTS CAMS
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH4 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3)
    17. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    18. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    19.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    20. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS[/QUOTE]
    21. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
  204. #204
    Thanks jeeves your doing a great job!

    The price is already excellent but if we can theres no harm in getting them cheaper! Shame they dont do springs, will have to get them from catcam or piper etc. Im in for PH3's, Followers and cambelt.
  205. #205
    I second that !!! Fair play to you jeeves !! Is going to be a huge group buy !!
  206. #206
    What else is needed to fit the VTR cams? Is it a job that can be done by myself or will it require a garage to do it?
  207. #207
    you could fit the cams yourself, and if you have some know how you could set the correct timing so that damage wont occur, giving you plenty of time to get it booked in for mapping.

    and really, you could just get cams, tho on a vtr an adjustable pulley is highly recommended.
  208. #208
    Again jeeves brill job will the group buy! Will i need to get an adjustable pulley or anything eles for my furio?
  209. #209
    adjustable pulley would be recommened for anyone that doesn't have a vts
  210. #210
    what sort of increase could i expect on a 8v vtr?
  211. #211
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeeves_101 View Post
    you could fit the cams yourself, and if you have some know how you could set the correct timing so that damage wont occur, giving you plenty of time to get it booked in for mapping.

    and really, you could just get cams, tho on a vtr an adjustable pulley is highly recommended.
    So all I would need is a pulley? Anywhere that I can buy one from on the net?

    You lot are mentioning springs etc so thought I would need more??
  212. #212
    Jeeves next time you ring them can you ask them wether standard valve springs should be used with GTI/VTS PH3 cams please as i have just read this on their site and want to clarify if new harder springs are needed:

    Don’t over-spring the camshaft. Most modern engines have valve springs that can be used for Phase 1 and 2 camshafts and in
    some applications Phase 3 cams. So use the lightest spring possible.

    Cheers buddy!
  213. #213
    lol sorry about that, didnt see it!
  214. #214
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dibz View Post
    Jeeves next time you ring them can you ask them wether standard valve springs should be used with GTI/VTS PH3 cams please as i have just read this on their site and want to clarify if new harder springs are needed:

    Don’t over-spring the camshaft. Most modern engines have valve springs that can be used for Phase 1 and 2 camshafts and in
    some applications Phase 3 cams. So use the lightest spring possible.

    Cheers buddy!
    Good point actually, would like to know myself...
  215. #215
    Anyone no how much the pulley and belt is gona be?
  216. #216
    jeeves well done mate, more discount would be great but the moneys ready waiting on this end
  217. #217
    it would not be my daily drive so i'm wanting something special, what would i need for ph4? (vts) my head is already ported and polished with matched manifolds.
  218. #218
    Pretty sure you'll need TB's mate, according to newman PH3's are not recommended on standard inlet so PH4's will definately need them. PH3's are as wild as you can go without NEEDING TB's altho itl run smoother with them.
  219. #219
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dibz View Post
    Pretty sure you'll need TB's mate, according to newman PH3's are not recommended on standard inlet so PH4's will definately need them. PH3's are as wild as you can go without NEEDING TB's altho itl run smoother with them.
    would a raceland induction kit be classed as standard inlet? or completely standard?
  220. #220
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by b0t13 View Post
    would a raceland induction kit be classed as standard inlet? or completely standard?

    Standard inlet is really the standard throttle body
  221. #221
    ph3's are the same as 708's or as close as.

    you can run the car without a re-map as long as you use the correct timing settings supplied, but to get the full benefits you need a remap.
  222. #222
    Changed my original plan of having PH4's to PH3's, decided I can't really afford to go so ild with my car

    LIST OF PEOPLE FOR VTS CAMS
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3)
    17. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    18. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    19.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    20. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
  223. #223
    wild**
  224. #224
    16V CAM LIST

    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3)
    17. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    18. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    19.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    20. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS[/quote]
    21. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
  225. #225
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T View Post
    Standard inlet is really the standard throttle body
    so do i need to upgrade the throtle body as well then?
  226. #226
    no you don't.
  227. #227
    kk, when are you execting all this to go through?
  228. #228
    mid-end of january, allow people to get money together, and get everything finalised with newman's.
  229. #229
    Im in!

    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3)
    17. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    18. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    19.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    20. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS[/quote]
    21. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    22. DAN-VTS - (PH3)

    2 questions, 1. Are the followers on their site uprated or same as standard? (as i could prob get them cheaper through work )
    2. Can i buy these sooner than january as im looking to get some cams asap?
    cheers
  230. #230
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DAN-VTS View Post
    Im in!

    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3)
    17. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    18. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    19.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    20. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    21. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    22. DAN-VTS - (PH3)

    2 questions, 1. Are the followers on their site uprated or same as standard? (as i could prob get them cheaper through work )
    2. Can i buy these sooner than january as im looking to get some cams asap?
    cheers [/QUOTE]


    If you can get em cheaper at work share the love and help us all save that little bit!
  231. #231
    Well i need to know if they are the same as standards as ive heard you can get uprated followers and im not on about the solid ones lol
  232. #232
    Yes please!

    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3)
    17. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    18. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    19.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    20. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS[/quote]
    21. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    22. DAN-VTS - (PH3)
    23. FinchowneD - VTS (PH3)

    Question:

    My engine is on 64k, will I need followers? (whatever they are!)

    Cheers.
  233. #233
    not sure if the followers are uprated.

    this will be going ahead mid-end of jan as thats when i planned it for, so everyone can gather funds, plus newman need time to make them, so to that, no can't go earlier really.

    on 64K, some may say yes, some no, your choice really.
  234. #234
    Better be safe than sorry !! So for £106, I would, but it's up to you really!
  235. #235
    im in the same boat there m8, im on 64k as well! What u gona do?
  236. #236
    I've got a VTS engine with 70k on it, that I'm going to partially rebuild, cam, and put in my Westcoast.

    The way I look at it is that for £106, I'd rather not potentially mess up the engine, i.e. bent valves etc. because a follower failed which could cost £££. when I've got the opportunity to purchase them at a cheaper price and put them in whilst the engine is on a stand.
  237. #237
    True m8, lwould have prefered not to fork out anther £106, although are we getting discount on them as well?
  238. #238
    I don't know what's going on for the 8v'ers regarding other discounted items, or indeed what could do with being changed when fitting uprated cam. Best to search around on here and on saxosportsclub.
  239. #239
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3)
    17. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    18. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    19.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    20. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS[/quote]
    21. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    22. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    23. FinchowneD - VTS (PH3)

    Followers from citroen are silly money, looking at over 200 quid after my discount!!! so followers from newmans are a bloody good price. And anyone umming and arring about weather to change the followers it doesnt matter how many miles your engine has done you should be replacing them when putting a new set of cams in.
    And oh well looks like i will have to wait then
  240. #240
    throw me some followers then if it puts my mind to rest



    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3)
    17. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    18. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    19.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    20. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS[/quote]
    21. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    22. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    23. FinchowneD - VTS (PH3)
  241. #241
    Followers should wear with cams so whenever you change cams you should ideally change followers. Better safe than sorry!
  242. #242
    Ah right, cheers for the heads up peeps! Followers it is!


    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3)
    17. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    18. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    19.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    20. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS[/quote]
    21. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    22. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    23. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
  243. #243
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    17. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    18. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    19.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    20. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS[/quote]
    21. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    22. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    23. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
  244. #244
    Temped by the idea of new followers but cash on the tight, will see nearer the time. Quite a few say you don't really need them if your engine isn't high miles...? Jeeves, news on the belts would be nice
  245. #245
    have been busy mate, but was told that we'd be looking at around 20-25% discount on them too.
  246. #246
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeeves_101 View Post
    have been busy mate, but was told that we'd be looking at around 20-25% discount on them too.
    ..sounding good
  247. #247
    I can't wait for this to go ahead, just want to get them in the engine then get the engine in and mapped up!!!
  248. #248
    can i use standard lifters with ph4?
    or do i need solid ones?
  249. #249
    A question regarding the PH1 and PH2 cams:

    What sort of power gains could be seen from these cams and do these also NEED a re-map? I really want cams but cant justify £450 for a decent remap and, yes, I am fully aware that I would need a remap to take the full advantage of PH3's!

    Cheers!
  250. #250
    ph1's are very mild and ph2's are a combination of one ph1 cam and one ph3 cam iirc.not sure which is exhaust or inlet though
  251. #251
    Im gona go ahead with the cams although im still continplating wether or not to go for ph3 as is the mapping that costs soo much but will see what crimbo brings me!
  252. #252
    Angel Tuning will map it for you for £240 all in, they won't use a rolling road but they will drive it on the road loads, tweaking the settings to get it running right. Thats what I'll be using when i get the PH3s...
  253. #253
    AliC - because it's such a good price, even if you get them, but decide not to fit them, I reckon you could easily get your money back selling it on ebay or even on here !
  254. #254
    rickyp-rpm - i would advise solid lifters with ph4's, as the ph3's are pretty much the same as 708's, and from whats been mentioned in the past, they seem to be on the boundaries of everything.
  255. #255
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    AliC - because it's such a good price, even if you get them, but decide not to fit them, I reckon you could easily get your money back selling it on ebay or even on here !
    Suppose your right m8, although i will get them fitted and mapped, just with a tear in my eye lol!
  256. #256
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AliC View Post
    Suppose your right m8, although i will get them fitted and mapped, just with a tear in my eye lol!
    Once mine are fitted and all mapped up it'll be a grin on my face !!!
  257. #257
    lol like wise, I dont really know what to expect from the cam's because i have never been in a cammed car? Anyone have any ideas?
  258. #258
    no mate, but you can rest assure it'll have some extra beans.
  259. #259
    I know that cammed 16v's with breather mods stand up nicely against Type-R's and Clio 172/182, so a cammed Furio should be battling their own against 16v Fiesta Zetec-S I'd imagine. Should behave quite naughty for a 1400
  260. #260
    Thats wat i like to hear! Only one way to find out!
  261. #261
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AliC View Post
    Thats wat i like to hear! Only one way to find out!
    Thats it mate, put these in and your local Fiesta boys will be shitting themselves everytime you rumble passed..

    But as you said, only one way to find out
  262. #262
    my mates got vts would keep up with my other mates standard type R, but the VTS also has a 1.4 g'box in it
  263. #263
    Yeh I'm planning on putting my westcoast gearbox on my vts engine, iirc it has closer ratios - so should help acceleration !!!
  264. #264
    this vts is stupidly fast bottem end, but he says he's had it of the clock as well, but ive been told hes got a furio box in it but i dont really no the difference between boxes.
  265. #265
    the furio box is the longest box u can get, its like the vtr box.

    it has long ratios and KILLS acceleration but gives top end. if ur looking for acceleration then keep the vts box or get a 1.1 box.

    1.1 box will be high revs on motorway tho..
  266. #266
    s1 rallye or a 1.4 xsi boxes to have if you want acceleration. didnt no about the furios beein long either.
  267. #267
    Just looked over on ssc - and yeh the 1.4 box is sooooooooooo long !!! lol, didn't know that !!! close to 70mph in 2nd !! lol - the ratios are all shown on here:

    http://www.saxosportsclub.com/Forums...c/t=17814.html
  268. #268
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BoJay View Post
    my mates got vts would keep up with my other mates standard type R, but the VTS also has a 1.4 g'box in it
    VTS keeping with Type-R? What mods? Not standard surely, my uncle has a CTR and it kills off my VTS without much fuss... But with these PH3 and my upcoming zorst system/mani, I'm hoping to fix that little mishap

    EDIT- and surely longer box can't help acceleration, vts box the one to have for that- acceleration is good as ratios are close but top end it isn't that much better than a vtr
  269. #269
    I reckon with ph3's you should be a good match for a CTR - strip a few bits out of the saxo and you should get away from him until 100+ i reckon !
  270. #270
    your probly rite mate, but now the vts has no chance against the type R he's put a air filter n jap straight through on it. But dont forget that the VTS only cost £3500, where the type R was bowt £18000....i no what i would rather spend.lol
  271. #271
    lol, agreed !! Plus it's fun modifying your car etc. and is a good feeling when your hard work and persistance pays off when you've done something successfully !!

    I lowered my car myself, and can't tell you how happy I was when finished !!!
  272. #272
    thats what im like i always give somethin a go before i have to pay some1 to do it.
  273. #273
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    lol, agreed !! Plus it's fun modifying your car etc. and is a good feeling when your hard work and persistance pays off when you've done something successfully !!

    I lowered my car myself, and can't tell you how happy I was when finished !!!
    Completely agree mate, thats where the fun is. Alot of self-satisfaction to be had when you have got your own individual modifed ride. Mine is looking completely standard at the moment, but over the next year I'll be doing things to it on and off whenever I can scrounge the funds (still @ uni lol!) but once its done (cammed, zorst, lowered, alloys etc...) I doubt I'll want to even sell it!
  274. #274
    am at uni myself and most student loans go my car, just cant help but to spend it on the motor.

    my mates vts has all the usual breathin mods (manifold etc) but its been cammed dont no which ones and its got a 1.4 box,it was never gonna take the type R, CTR just couldnt shake him off
  275. #275
    Dito !!! I've been spending my savings on the car - stockpiled up some bits ready for when I put the vts engine in !!! I'm beginning to get into my student loan, but am reluctant to!! I just get in pissed some nights and bid on things for the Saxo and end up winning them !!! lol
  276. #276
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BoJay View Post
    am at uni myself and most student loans go my car, just cant help but to spend it on the motor.

    my mates vts has all the usual breathin mods (manifold etc) but its been cammed dont no which ones and its got a 1.4 box,it was never gonna take the type R, CTR just couldnt shake him off
    Haha yeah mate student loans do us young Saxo drivers well! Sounds like a cammed S and CTR are a really even match... just want those cams now lol!
  277. #277
    Shud have no trouble keeping ahead of a standard ctr with 160bhp, a 160bhp vts/gti has 174bhp/ton whereas a standard ctr has 166bhp/ton. standard vs standard theres not much in it but the ctr does pull once into 3rd.
  278. #278
    CTR has 197bhp not 160..
  279. #279
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by b0t13 View Post
    CTR has 197bhp not 160..
    not if you work to be per ton.

    197 is it's bhp yes, but it weighs more than 1 ton.
  280. #280
    yea, it has 166bhp/perton but not 160bhp engine power.
  281. #281
    Thats interesting about the 1.4 gear box, i never knew that it was the longest!
  282. #282
    if you want the best gearbox for aceleration, then its either the rallye S1 or 1.4 xsi box you need.
  283. #283
    THE LATEST MOST UP TO DATE LIST, NAMES CAN STILL BE ADDED

    CAMS FOR 16VALVERS
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    17. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    18. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    19.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    20. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS[/quote]
    21. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    22. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    23. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers

    CAMS FOR 8 VALVERS
    1.AliC ph3 furio (2001, silver rocker)
    2.suvvysaxo 1.6 vtr ph3
    3.
    4.
    5.
  284. #284
    Jeeves wats up with the 8v'ers? Is my name still down for one?
  285. #285
    am thinking should i get ph2's?????
  286. #286
    alic - i'll find and bring forward the latest 8v list

    sete_vts - no, ph3's mate.
  287. #287
    Everyone with a VTS should get PH3s...!
  288. #288
    Cheers jeeves, im still unsure on wehter to go for ph1 or ph3? Honest opinion from anybody?
  289. #289
    with the ph1 there would be very little difference from standard, and tbh not worth the time and effort for the gains you'd see.

    if you really want to see some good gains and have a fair bit of extra poke, then ph3 is deffinatly the cam to get.
  290. #290
    I may be interested in a set of phase 4's and lifters for my race car, will confirm soon.

    Nick
  291. #291
    yea think im just gona go for it and get the ph3!
  292. #292
    It will be worth it !!! Even if you just hold on to them for a while saving up for mapping !!
  293. #293
    Yea cos thats the main problem, its not the buying and fitting of them, its the mapping that cost the most lol!
  294. #294
    Quick question, after its been mapped will it still run lumpy? If so is there any problem taking it though the MOT?
  295. #295
    It might run a little lumpy, but will hardly be noticable - but will probably just run normally. I can't see a problem taking it through an MOT - just pay 'a little extra' for your MOT and should go through fine !!
  296. #296
    Cheers m8!
  297. #297
    MOT will definately be a problem with unmapped PH3's! even mapped PH3 may have a problem...
  298. #298
    OOPs didnt read write, your talking about after there mapped? If so i would'nt count on it sailing through, i think itl be tight on emissions.
  299. #299
    Yeh, i reckon it'll be tight, might have to get pay that bit extra for your MOT
  300. #300
    i will prob go for ph4 and solid lifters, and my cousin will ba having the same.
  301. #301
    Help a newbie out!! Give me 2 stroke any day! Not a four stroke 4 cylinder!! Lol

    I have the 98bhp vtr. Which cam would be best? Whats the difference in phases??

    So for £105 what do i get? The full kit with everything i need to get it up and running?

    Rep given for help
  302. #302
    my ph3s pissed through the mot emissions, so no worries there
  303. #303
    Oh rite! all good then
  304. #304
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by belly_VTS View Post
    my ph3s pissed through the mot emissions, so no worries there
    Thats what we like to hear was worried for a second...
  305. #305
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Coonper View Post
    Help a newbie out!! Give me 2 stroke any day! Not a four stroke 4 cylinder!! Lol

    I have the 98bhp vtr. Which cam would be best? Whats the difference in phases??

    So for £105 what do i get? The full kit with everything i need to get it up and running?

    Rep given for help
    Also interested £105 is just the cam i think then u need a remap £400 ish and there is other stuff so i wonder what the price will come out at and what bhp from a VTR. Might be cheaper to buy a VTS but thats just the easy way
  306. #306
    £400 for a map? Is it not more like £200 or so?
  307. #307
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AliC View Post
    £400 for a map? Is it not more like £200 or so?
    no...........

    if you can find a dencent remapper for £200 plus let us ALL know
  308. #308
    A guy in ballymeana qouted me £200 to get my car mapped! I didnt even think it was that dear to mapp a disel!?
  309. #309
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AliC View Post
    A guy in ballymeana qouted me £200 to get my car mapped! I didnt even think it was that dear to mapp a disel!?
    does he set it up on the rollers? link to his site ftw
  310. #310
    There is always chipped uk for remaps. They done alot of the cars from the previous forum i was with for 3 years. Vauxhall vectra owners club.

    ChippedUK
  311. #311
    You don't have to spend anywhere near 400 if you don't want to. Angel tuning will remap for 235 all in including mobile travel to your home or work place. downside is that they don't use a rolling road, but rather just drive around and treak it to perfection (or so they say). Shop about and you can find a fair few mapping companies who will take you on for under the 300 mark...
  312. #312
    Like said, i got qouted £200 for the map, not for the rolling road or anything, although how can you justify an extra £200 or so just to use a rolling road?
  313. #313
    Coonper - £105 is for JUST the cam, then you need to add vat and postage to that price, and if you require other parts sucj as cam belt or followers then that will need to be added on, then there is the case of getting a re-map.

    If you read post one, all info should be there, or within this thread.

    Hope that helps abit, cheers.


    THE LATEST MOST UP TO DATE LIST, NAMES CAN STILL BE ADDED

    CAMS FOR 16VALVERS
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    17. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    18. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    19.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    20. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS[/quote]
    21. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    22. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    23. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers

    CAMS FOR 8 VALVERS
    1.AliC ph3 furio (2001, silver rocker)
    2.suvvysaxo 1.6 vtr ph3
    3.
    4.
    5.
  314. #314
    Jeeves i think i am going to go for the followers and pulleys although is there additonal discount on the pulleys?
  315. #315
    i don't think newmans do pulleys .
  316. #316
    Rite...take it i will need to get a pulley though?
  317. #317
    an adjustable pulley is recomended, and yes, newmans don't do them!!
  318. #318
    No problem, will just have to get one off piper! Cheers
  319. #319
    THE LATEST MOST UP TO DATE LIST, NAMES CAN STILL BE ADDED

    CAMS FOR 16VALVERS
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)
    14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    15. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    16. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    17. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    18. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    19.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    20. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS[/quote]
    21. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    22. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    23. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    24. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS

    CAMS FOR 8 VALVERS
    1.AliC ph3 furio (2001, silver rocker)
    2.suvvysaxo 1.6 vtr ph3
    3.
    4.
    5.
  320. #320
    I have just found this on ebay:

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Saxo-106-8v-Ke...QQcmdZViewItem

    just an option for all the 8valvers if money is tight regarding getting the max. power out of the cams!! don't know how much it'll go for but could be a bargain !!
  321. #321
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    I have just found this on ebay:

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Saxo-106-8v-Ke...QQcmdZViewItem

    just an option for all the 8valvers if money is tight regarding getting the max. power out of the cams!! don't know how much it'll go for but could be a bargain !!
    Cheers for that m8!
  322. #322
    Will it make i differance m8?
  323. #323
    I don't know really, but it is adjustable so should allow the mapper to tweak the timing very slightly to get the best results - which I think is a positive !!
  324. #324
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    I don't know really, but it is adjustable so should allow the mapper to tweak the timing very slightly to get the best results - which I think is a positive !!
    No problem m8, cheers for the find!
  325. #325
    when will these be ordered?
  326. #326
    will be going through at around mid-end of january.

    i know its a wait, but this gives everyone time to get money together after xmas and what not.
  327. #327
    o if its not going to be till mid jan might put my name down
  328. #328
    Is great value for some cams !!!! might get 30+ names down!!! Just hope everyone actually will go through with it, will take Newmans a while to actually manufacture 30+ sets of cams !!!!! lol
  329. #329
    Im hoping to book my car to have some work done inc fitting the cams around 5th feb, fingers crossed they have all been delivered by then...
  330. #330
    which post is the updated prices?
  331. #331
    The prices are in the first post
  332. #332
    are these updated then?
  333. #333
    ill be intrested if these are for start of next year.

    Ive got VTS 2000 mk2

    cheers
    Lee
  334. #334
    harding1985 - go for PH3's. but would only really be worth while with the basic mods done (induction/exhaust), and then a remap.
  335. #335
    Hi Mate,

    Basic mods already done

    Any Recommended places to do the re-map? Plus how much the re=map normally set you back?
  336. #336
    urm... well there are different views on how much people want ot spend on remapping.

    Chipwizards/Wayne can remap your car up in Manchester for give or take £500.

    Whereas there are other places (some links in this thread) that will remap for different prices, around £300 i think.

    But at the end of the day it's upto you where you want to go. People have had good words to say about Chipwizards, so seems a safe bet. But personally if you're going to spend £500 on remapping, you're getting close to going standalone, when you take into account its resale value too. Remember ..... You don't want a chip !!!!

    I'm toying with trying out Pug1Off if they do remaps, or trying somewhere like angel tuning or chippeduk if they remap. Is a hard call though !!
  337. #337
    can we not ask wayne to do a group discount on mapping?
    just a thought as most will have a similar set up so all he has to do is tweak the map for each car?
  338. #338
    Good idea mate,

    We could get like 10 people to go with the group re-map he would be in the money and should be cheaper for us with a discount
  339. #339
    I've had to drop out due to buying new wheels after xmas + not having the money to afford wheels + cams.

    THE LATEST MOST UP TO DATE LIST, NAMES CAN STILL BE ADDED

    CAMS FOR 16VALVERS
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS[/quote]
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS

    CAMS FOR 8 VALVERS
    1.AliC ph3 furio (2001, silver rocker)
    2.suvvysaxo 1.6 vtr ph3
    3.
    4.
    5.
  340. #340
    thats quality idea for discount on mapping, some1 sort it out lol, as all will need remapped after cams are in
  341. #341
    Can the OP haggle a better deal for 25+??? With there being the whole of Dec/Jan to go I think we will make 25+ easily.

    CAMS FOR 16VALVERS
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS[/quote]
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers


    ManC
  342. #342
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by manc View Post
    Can the OP haggle a better deal for 25+??? With there being the whole of Dec/Jan to go I think we will make 25+ easily.

    CAMS FOR 16VALVERS
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS

    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers


    [/QUOTE]
  343. #343
    much ya talking all in for ph3 cams, the belt and followers for a vts?
  344. #344
    well we are already down as vigergfx is wanting to sell his saxo
  345. #345
    how much ya reckon mate??
  346. #346
    Cams are £200 + VAT = £235
    Followers are £90 + VAT = £105.75
    Cambelt - around £33 + VAT = £39.65 (best to buy one from eurocarparts or gsf as cheaper - around £35 total)

    Than you have delivery ontop of your order - say £10 - and that's how much.
  347. #347
    if i aint already got some by then, then im defo in, but i doubt i will due to xmas, but ill be wanting ph3 vts + followers
  348. #348
    should get them £200 delivered like with 25 plus people
  349. #349
    defo as they making loadz, so atleast they can do is knock abit more off, as they not guna get many bulk buys as this 1
  350. #350
    yeah we should all push for 200 delivered tbh, since theres so many of us and probs will be more by the end of January... they'll do it, especially as theres a few grand on the table in front of them
  351. #351
    yes but big question is, how many ppl will actually go through with it and not pull out? as its easy enough to put your name down, but gettin the money together is a different story!!!
  352. #352
    they could do them less than £200 think about it they are making a few grand easy
    get it on 106owners and 106rallye and ssc as wel hopefully hit the 30 mark

    like i said i would only get them if there 200 lmao
  353. #353
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS View Post
    they could do them less than £200 think about it they are making a few grand easy
    get it on 106owners and 106rallye and ssc as wel hopefully hit the 30 mark

    like i said i would only get them if there 200 lmao
    Yeah if this group buy spreads to 106owners and Rallye and SSC, Newmans will be having a happy new year. Least they can do is drop the price a little, considering what business they're getting. 200 inc delivery seems fair.
  354. #354
    defo agree, and more names u get the better as if people drop out at last min, well still have a lot of names due to the high list to begin with
  355. #355
    Quick question, when getting cams is it best and worthwhile to up rate your Fuel Pressure Regulator or not really worth it.

    Thanks lads
  356. #356
    do thes regulators make a much a diff on cammed vts's?
  357. #357
    thats grand im in then!!

    CAMS FOR 16VALVERS
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
  358. #358
    Nice one saturn_saxo!
  359. #359
    this is looking good.

    i will of course get in touch with newman's and see what can be done, and i also feel we should get something extra for this amount of people, tho last time i spoke to them they seemed reluctant to budge on the price tho i will see what i can do.
  360. #360
    Good work jeeves! I have a mate who is buying a GTi on saturday and hes going to sign up on here and put his name down for the group buy
  361. #361
    does a fuel regulator booster thing make a diff on a cammed vts?
  362. #362
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scottish_Gaz View Post
    does a fuel regulator booster thing make a diff on a cammed vts?
    Im not that sure on whehter it will work or not? Think it would just waste petrol! Better of in a turbo car to eliminate the flat spots!
  363. #363
    I once read on here that if you are going to cam etc your vts it can be worth buying a fuel pressure regulator but then others say no. Anyone know if it is worth it or not and if so will it make much difference.
  364. #364
    i have posted this on 106 rallye so far
  365. #365
    excellent mate, the more the merrier.

    i finish work tomorrow, woo, so i'll give newman a buzz at some point next week and try and get some final prices, etc etc blah blah, and then it can start to go through in january time.
  366. #366
    cannot be arsed to read though all the pages to find out info on the 8v cams because its porbably all about you 16v girls.

    so

    1 - when have we got to pay up - ie when is the final payment deadline?
    2 - do we have to have a limited no for the 8v ones- ie 5
    3 - what to they normaly retail at - the 8v ones
    4 - what are the range of cam spec to choose from with the 8v ones?
    how to they relate to other After market cams?
    5 - do they do a vernier pully that you can buy? - if so how much
    6 - do the 8v fit into a 1.3 S1 engine?
    7 - do they sell uprated valve sping kits? - if so how much?
    8 - how much to the cam belts retail at?

    Ta
  367. #367
    Jeeves m8, i might be reconsidering the cam's for the furio. I was speaking to a guy in edinburgh, and appartly the furio head is very restricted so might be considering a VTR head?
  368. #368
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AliC View Post
    Jeeves m8, i might be reconsidering the cam's for the furio. I was speaking to a guy in edinburgh, and appartly the furio head is very restricted so might be considering a VTR head?
    find a cheap second hand vtr engine and box they go really cheap
  369. #369
    Where's the best place to have a look for one m8?
  370. #370
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scottish_Gaz View Post
    does a fuel regulator booster thing make a diff on a cammed vts?
    Just get a 3.5 bar FPR from a VTR from a scrappy. Thats what ive done and it worked well.
  371. #371
    Best bet is to either look on ebay for a good vtr engine - but check it before you buy it - or from a scrappy.
  372. #372
    or on here or on 106rallye or ssc theres a few around....... just make sure its fully working and cant go wrong on ebay wiht a gearbox + loom + ecu + keys seen them go for £100
  373. #373
    no problem, il just have a look around!
  374. #374
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rallyeax View Post
    cannot be arsed to read though all the pages to find out info on the 8v cams because its porbably all about you 16v girls.

    so

    1 - when have we got to pay up - ie when is the final payment deadline?
    2 - do we have to have a limited no for the 8v ones- ie 5
    3 - what to they normaly retail at - the 8v ones
    4 - what are the range of cam spec to choose from with the 8v ones?
    how to they relate to other After market cams?
    5 - do they do a vernier pully that you can buy? - if so how much
    6 - do the 8v fit into a 1.3 S1 engine?
    7 - do they sell uprated valve sping kits? - if so how much?
    8 - how much to the cam belts retail at?

    Ta
    16v girls, eh? He he at least we ain't living in the stone-age, AX boi.

    CAn't be arsed to answer the Q's. Have a read mate.
  375. #375
    CAMS FOR 16VALVERS
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3


    any idea when this will be going ahead??
  376. #376
    /\ Sometime mid/late january mate, gives us all time to recover a bit from xmas costs etc.
  377. #377
    CAMS FOR 16VALVERS
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers

    i was waiting and waiting, watching and watching, wondering if i would buy them sooner, but f*** it, im gettin these in group buy

    jeeves mate, give me a date whenever you want the money and youll have it straight away by cheque mate
  378. #378
    im i now wahhoo....
    should have about 20 now after everyone's dropt out.

    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers
    30.dannygti-106 gti ph3's
  379. #379
    thats what i said mate, we guaranteed that people will drop out but with this list, there still should be a good number going ahead
  380. #380
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jazz_360 View Post
    16v girls, eh? He he at least we ain't living in the stone-age, AX boi.

    CAn't be arsed to answer the Q's. Have a read mate.
    Nicely put

    I wont be pulling out, i want to pay now!
  381. #381
    the main man jeeves_101 aint been on here in a while lol to tell us the updates
  382. #382
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers
    30.dannygti-106 gti ph3's
    31. Davevts - vts ph3's

    ill have some of that.
  383. #383
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rallyeax View Post
    1 - when have we got to pay up - ie when is the final payment deadline?
    2 - do we have to have a limited no for the 8v ones- ie 5
    3 - what to they normaly retail at - the 8v ones
    4 - what are the range of cam spec to choose from with the 8v ones?
    how to they relate to other After market cams?
    5 - do they do a vernier pully that you can buy? - if so how much
    6 - do the 8v fit into a 1.3 S1 engine?
    7 - do they sell uprated valve sping kits? - if so how much?
    8 - how much to the cam belts retail at?
    all required info is in post one, and regards to your questions -

    1 - mid-end of january
    2 - i don't believe so, but am phoning newmans next week
    3 - iirc it's around £165-185
    4 - ph1, ph3
    5 - no they dont
    6 - i dont know, but will ask
    7 - affraid not
    8 - £15 exc vat for 8V
  384. #384
    when adding to the list, please could you also copy forward the 8V list, makes it easier to see whats what.

    i will be phoning newman next week as i have been extremely busy this last 2 weeks and i'll try and get some finalalised info.

    cheers

    sorry for not responding sooner everyone, i've had a manic few weeks tbh. i have been organising and seeing through another groupbuy (flocked dashes), have been working 7:30-6:00 monday to thursday, and then doing 8-6 at college on friday and up till 1:00 am doing a 30 page materials assignment, but back on track now.
  385. #385
    LIST

    CAMS FOR 16 VALVERS

    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers
    30.dannygti-106 gti ph3's
    31. Davevts - vts ph3's

    CAMS FOR 8 VALVERS
    1.AliC ph3 furio (2001, silver rocker)
    2.suvvysaxo 1.6 vtr ph3
    3.
    4.
    5.
  386. #386
    ...thanks for the update jeeves
  387. #387
    good lad
  388. #388
    wow 31 for cams.they should do them for 200 delivered for that many people tbf
  389. #389
    got to be, its the least they can do for going to this effort to get as many ppl as possible just for them to lower price, not asif they can say, they not making profit as they certainly selling a good number here
  390. #390
    yea definate sales to and not someone who will want to sell unsold stock back to them
  391. #391
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AliC View Post
    Jeeves m8, i might be reconsidering the cam's for the furio. I was speaking to a guy in edinburgh, and appartly the furio head is very restricted so might be considering a VTR head?
    right i am doing you a favour go pick this up you big girl....

    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=117368
  392. #392
    CAMS FOR 16 VALVERS
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers
    30.dannygti-106 gti ph3's
    31. Davevts - vts ph3's
    32. Slammed_ax -vts ph3 or ph4 to decide.
  393. #393
    16V CAM LIST
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers
    30.dannygti-106 gti ph3's
    31. Davevts - vts ph3's
    32. GTI_TC - PH3's + Followers - GTi

    looking forward to these...
  394. #394
    [QUOTE=GTI_TC;1704916]16V CAM LIST
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers
    30.dannygti-106 gti ph3's
    31. Davevts - vts ph3's
    32.Slammed_ax -vts ph3 or ph4 to decide.
    33. GTI_TC - PH3's + Followers - GTi

    looking forward to these, and starting the new track car project....
  395. #395
    16V CAM LIST
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers
    30.dannygti-106 gti ph3's
    31. Davevts - vts ph3's
    32.Slammed_ax -vts ph3 or ph4 to decide.
    33. GTI_TC - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    34. alexastall3 - PH3's + Followers - GTi

    CAMS FOR 8 VALVERS
    1.AliC ph3 furio (2001, silver rocker)
    2.suvvysaxo 1.6 vtr ph3
    3.
    4.
    5.

    Discount for 30+?
  396. #396
    if we have 35 or over they must surely do them for under £200

    althought i can see it dropping to 25 as theres a few on the list not taking part already
  397. #397
    £200 delivered would be great lol

    steve i am also from newcastle
  398. #398
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by slammed_ax View Post
    £200 delivered would be great lol

    steve i am also from newcastle
    where abouts
  399. #399
    alot of people putting their name down but not actually taking much interest in this really, well thats what i think anyways
  400. #400
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scottish_Gaz View Post
    alot of people puttin their name donw but not ctually taking much interest in this really, well thats what i think anyways

    am in at £200 if much more am out tbh
  401. #401
    so out of 34 how many will be pulling out when u have to pay up i would say 25 percent fools
  402. #402
    i can shamley say i reckon a little more, i reckon about half tbh as alot would be like yeah but they dont have money really so just kidding themselves on lol
  403. #403
    The public have spoken. 200 delivered is a must, if they say no, tell them CAtcams are doign something similar and they've got a bigger rep among the modders.

    Surely with this amount of cheques they can do 200 delivered. Might have to push, but they should seriously do it...
  404. #404
    has any1 actually tried contacting catcams to see if they can do a better deal? as i cud jump as gettin alot of sales at one time
  405. #405
    catcams get in touch, i am unwel to do so but i will by the end of the day if no one has.

    £200 delivered max i say now, they will be making a fortune.
    obv depends how much it costs them to make the cams
  406. #406
    Well it depends on how much it costs them to make the cams, plus their overheads.

    Ontop of that, it'd be good for the company to get more of their cams out on the market getting good results, so they would also get good publicity from doing a good deal for a huge volume buy.

    I think that if they can do £200 + Vat on a 10+ orderr, then they should be able to push £200 delivered for a 25+ order. Will just see what happens.
  407. #407
    i got good results maybe i will ring them an tell them tomorrow if i tell them im off saxperience maybe it will help get the price down a bit for u guys in the group buy
  408. #408
    151.1 bellys made today with ph3's shit raceland manifold gmc btb exhaust and racland induction kit, not too bad.
  409. #409
    not to bad
  410. #410
    200 delivered would be very nice, and maybe try get more off the followers like!

    So cheque the only form of payment they accept for this?
  411. #411
    yes, cheque is the only payment they'll take, it also means it gets to them in one go.
  412. #412
    u mean a cheque each or they want one cheque with full payment on?
  413. #413
    sorry, bit unclear there.

    i think the best way to do it, is to get everyone to write the check out, then post it to me and to include there delivery address, then i'll send everyone's off in one big envelope and do it recorded delivery, then they'll recieve all cheque's in one go and can cash them all together etc, makes life easier too, plus i can check to see who has and hasn't paid up.
  414. #414
    Yeh, I'm up for that, it's a good idea !!
  415. #415
    yes quality, you thought of any dates yet mate, as if u can set a date, gives everyone a date to go by
  416. #416
    no set date as yet, just aiming at end of january.

    i'm GOING to phone newman this week and try and confirm numbers, prices etc etc, so will get that done and update asap.
  417. #417
    16V CAM LIST
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers
    30.dannygti-106 gti ph3's
    31. Davevts - vts ph3's
    32.Slammed_ax -vts ph3 or ph4 to decide.
    33. GTI_TC - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    34. alexastall3 - PH3's + Followers - GTi

    CAMS FOR 8 VALVERS
    1.AliC ph3 furio (2001, silver rocker)
    2.suvvysaxo 1.6 vtr ph3
    3.
    4.
    5.
  418. #418
    everyone sending cheques? seems abit old skool and slow.

    relying on post if the first thing as people will send cheques different days and some will come quicker than others, then well have to wait for all the cheques to clear, and if some bounce it could knock the numbers down and newman may have a problem with that. etc etc.
  419. #419
    old school and royal mail is wank am happy enough to do it though.
  420. #420
    u have a point there about cheques bouncing, what happens if they try to put price up due to some bouncing? when we've sent cheques
  421. #421
    how about bankers drafts?

    there always garuanteed to be cashed because you give your bank the 200 pound and they give you the draft for you to do what you like.


    same as a cheque but cant bounce
  422. #422
    yes and you write the detials of who ya giving it to on back so no1 else can cash it, am i right?
  423. #423
    If I'm honest, who's going to write a cheque for some cams, that'll bounce??They would get charged £15+ for it bouncing, unless they want it to bounce, don't know why though ?!!? It's no bother for me to get a bankers draft if that's what everyone wants to do.

    I'm okay with paying by cheque, Newmans are unlikely to have all the cams 'off the shelf', I presume they make them to order, so I can imagine it will take them a little time to make 30+ (x2) cams + followers. I don't mind paying asap, so that they can start making the cams now, ready for delivery end of Jan. Although they probably close up over Xmas?!
  424. #424
    i could pay now aswell.. people may write check and send cheque with money in bank and end up taking money out bank for whatever reason, so could bounce that way, this is alot of money to some people
  425. #425
    ......
  426. #426
    vipergfx needs removing
  427. #427
    16V CAM LIST
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers
    30.dannygti-106 gti ph3's
    31. Davevts - vts ph3's
    32.Slammed_ax -vts ph3 or ph4 to decide.
    33. GTI_TC - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    34. alexastall3 - PH3's + Followers - GTi

    CAMS FOR 8 VALVERS
    1.AliC ph3 furio (2001, silver rocker)
    2.suvvysaxo 1.6 vtr ph3
    3.
    4.
    5.

    Ignore my last post!
  428. #428
    any chance of a late comer, add me to the list plz

    westy\vts\ph3's + followers

    need a pm plz, where cheque goin to, when, when are cams likely to be recieved, i definately won't be pullin out either.

    cheers
  429. #429
    16V CAM LIST
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers
    30.dannygti-106 gti ph3's
    31. Davevts - vts ph3's
    32.Slammed_ax -vts ph3 or ph4 to decide.
    33. GTI_TC - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    34. alexastall3 - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    35. westy2k1 - VTS - PH3's + Followers

    CAMS FOR 8 VALVERS
    1.AliC ph3 furio (2001, silver rocker)
    2.suvvysaxo 1.6 vtr ph3
    3.
    4.
    5.


  430. #430
    Can I still signup or is it too late?
    I would buy a set of ph3's + follwers for my Saxo VTS (16v)
    I was waiting to see andywiddss1 results in "Newmans ph3s fitted" thread
  431. #431
    16V CAM LIST
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers
    30.dannygti-106 gti ph3's
    31. Davevts - vts ph3's
    32.Slammed_ax -vts ph3 or ph4 to decide.
    33. GTI_TC - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    34. alexastall3 - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    35. westy2k1 - VTS - PH3's + Followers
    36. menmen - PH3's + Followers (VTS)

    CAMS FOR 8 VALVERS
    1.AliC ph3 furio (2001, silver rocker)
    2.suvvysaxo 1.6 vtr ph3
    3.
    4.
    5.

    there you go
  432. #432
    [QUOTE=raunchz;1715037]16V CAM LIST
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers
    30.dannygti-106 gti ph3's
    31. Davevts - vts ph3's
    32.Slammed_ax -vts ph3 or ph4 to decide.
    33. GTI_TC - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    34. alexastall3 - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    35. westy2k1 - VTS - PH3's + Followers
    36. menmen - PH3's + Followers (VTS)

    CAMS FOR 8 VALVERS
    1.suvvysaxo 1.6 vtr ph3
    2.
    3.
    4.
    5.

    Sorry gonna pull out for now!!
  433. #433
    Thanks! Can I pay with PayPal? I'm from outside the UK. PM please!
  434. #434
    im 99.9% up for these but havent put my name down as i don't want to let anyone down. i will know by the first week in january or maybe next week, whens the final date we need to be 100%.
  435. #435
    think i remember reading mid-late jan m8. they're a bargain get em!
  436. #436
    will theses cams fit a mk1 vts?

    wat do i do to get in on them?
  437. #437
    very interested in the vts cams and followers can somone please pm me and let me kow prices and dates etc! Can pay now aswell!
  438. #438
    yep i would like to no the prices, now theirs over 30 buyers?

    thanks
  439. #439
    Sign me up please mk1 vts newman phs 3 cams and followers!
  440. #440
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers
    30.dannygti-106 gti ph3's
    31. Davevts - vts ph3's
    32.Slammed_ax -vts ph3 or ph4 to decide.
    33. GTI_TC - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    34. alexastall3 - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    35. westy2k1 - VTS - PH3's + Followers
    36. menmen - PH3's + Followers (VTS)
    37. saxolee1986 - PH3's + followers (VTS)

    CAMS FOR 8 VALVERS
    1.suvvysaxo 1.6 vtr ph3
    2.
    3.
    4.
    5.
  441. #441
    I think price is around 235 including delivery etc and dead line for gettin on list is mid-end of jan.
  442. #442
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers
    30.dannygti-106 gti ph3's
    31. Davevts - vts ph3's
    32.Slammed_ax -vts ph3 or ph4 to decide.
    33. GTI_TC - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    34. alexastall3 - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    35. westy2k1 - VTS - PH3's + Followers
    36. menmen - PH3's + Followers (VTS)
    37. saxolee1986 - PH3's + followers (VTS)
    38. lilsaxovts - PH3 (VTS)

    CAMS FOR 8 VALVERS
    1.suvvysaxo 1.6 vtr ph3
    2.
    3.
    4.
    5.


    Do i need followers though? car is on 29k miles... >.<
  443. #443
    Afternoon people.

    I'm still wanting to go through with this deal, but i MAY have to pull out depending on the cost to get my new crank pulley and stuff sorted.

    Tho i may pull out, which i don't want to, i will still lead this through to the finish, so no-one needs to panic.

    Cheers
  444. #444
    you called for cheaper price? as they were going to do £200 with just 10 people. - vat and postage.

    we want better £200 max incl postage and vat or say we will go to cat cams.
  445. #445
    i agree, as they won't wana lose that many orders imo
  446. #446
    Do i need followers on a 29k mileage vts?
  447. #447
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LilSaxoVTS View Post
    Do i need followers on a 29k mileage vts?
    no, am not bothering with 32k on the clock. Only really need them for higher mileage.
    If you have the spare cash to get them. If you dont then dont.
  448. #448
    wont hurt to get them if you can afford them, but if ya cant really, then dont bother
  449. #449
    Ive got 37k on mine but im definatly changing followers. Up to you if you want to put new cams in with worn followers
  450. #450
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DAN-VTS View Post
    Ive got 37k on mine but im definatly changing followers. Up to you if you want to put new cams in with worn followers
    depends how fucked your engine is, mines like new. not been rapped so doubt they will be that bad.
  451. #451
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS View Post
    depends how fucked your engine is, mines nothing like new. its been rapped from cold every time i use it, its always on the limiter, so doubt there will be any followers left lol .
    steve i told you to take your time in your new car lol

    you had the box fixed yet?

    i think that if we defo have this many people who are genuine, then we should be able to get them for a ickle bit more
  452. #452
    ickle bit less u mean mate lol
  453. #453
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by boz View Post
    steve i told you to take your time in your new car lol

    you had the box fixed yet?

    i think that if we defo have this many people who are genuine, then we should be able to get them for a ickle bit more
    lmao i have been trying to get in touch with you for the last few weeks, must be avoiding me
    Hows it going? i have an s2 rallye box to go in now. Might do it next week for something to do if your up for it? was going to do it this week as i have been off work, but just couldnt be arsed.
  454. #454
    btw am not happy paying by cheque considering you will have my account number, sort code, bank address and my address if that falls in to the wrong hands am fucked!

    I think you should let us pay via pay pal or instant transfer your self or something.
  455. #455
    i see where your coming from, but via paypal you will incur an extra charge etc, and the time it takes for me to with draw from paypal to my account.

    i'm not in this to make money, steal account info or rip anyone off, i personally thought i was making a good effort on getting a deal sorted for people.

    If thats how you feel then you don't have to take part or you can sort it and i won't bother.
  456. #456
    hes the one doing us a favour hes getting nowt out of it so carnt really start making demands
  457. #457
    anyway ive got the money waiting so just let us no when u get a date for payment in mind,
  458. #458
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS View Post
    btw am not happy paying by cheque considering you will have my account number, sort code, bank address and my address if that falls in to the wrong hands am fucked!

    I think you should let us pay via pay pal or instant transfer your self or something.
    simple if your not happy dont do it!
  459. #459
    thread has been stuck, if you could pm me once this is dealt with please so it can be removed.

    ryan
  460. #460
    *pm'd you regarding payment*
  461. #461
    reply to your pm sounds good mate am happy with that
  462. #462
    Surely it's just like paying for something using a cheque on EBAY . I don't see any problem paying with a cheque, all he'll do is collate all the cheques, see who's paid, then send them all of to Newmans.
  463. #463
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    Surely it's just like paying for something using a cheque on EBAY . I don't see any problem paying with a cheque, all he'll do is collate all the cheques, see who's paid, then send them all of to Newmans.
    i know the process lol its not a problem with jeeves its the royal mail i have the problem with.
    its all sorted now anyway
  464. #464
    Am i still able to purchase a set of these for a vts?
  465. #465
    yes you are indeed.

    i will try newman tomorrow and get details etc etc.

    getting cheques to me will be for around the mid of january time, then i'll cross people off as paid, then send payment through to newman.
  466. #466
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeeves_101 View Post
    yes you are indeed.

    i will try newman tomorrow and get details etc etc.

    getting cheques to me will be for around the mid of january time, then i'll cross people off as paid, then send payment through to newman.
    you still getting some for yourself?
  467. #467
    hopefully, as long as the crank pulley doesn't turn out too expensive to get fixed (which i fix it shouldn't be, will do it myself, so just need the part), plus in renewal time at the end of january (but am 21 now and have an extra ncb to last year, so its dropping a bit), but it's looking like i should be ok.
  468. #468
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeeves_101 View Post
    hopefully, as long as the crank pulley doesn't turn out too expensive to get fixed (which i fix it shouldn't be, will do it myself, so just need the part), plus in renewal time at the end of january (but am 21 now and have an extra ncb to last year, so its dropping a bit), but it's looking like i should be ok.
    wish i was 21 insurance kills me at 19 with 0ncb and a crash
  469. #469
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeeves_101 View Post
    hopefully, as long as the crank pulley doesn't turn out too expensive to get fixed (which i fix it shouldn't be, will do it myself, so just need the part), plus in renewal time at the end of january (but am 21 now and have an extra ncb to last year, so its dropping a bit), but it's looking like i should be ok.
    where are you getting your cams fitted mate? and remap? (if your getting them)
  470. #470
    not sure yet mate.

    may trek to chip wizards or may go to a local place as there's a few near me.
  471. #471
    how much do gmc charge for a remap as might be easier for me to drive there than chip wizards.
    they charge £400 for dastek and fitting, surely thats better than a standard ecu remap?
    gmc also do competion stainless exhausts which i imagine or better than supersprint? didnt know that only £55 aswel.
  472. #472
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeeves_101 View Post
    not sure yet mate.

    may trek to chip wizards or may go to a local place as there's a few near me.
    let me know how you get on mate as im local to you and havent a clue where to get them fitted!
  473. #473
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by carter View Post
    let me know how you get on mate as im local to you and havent a clue where to get them fitted!
    will do, i may fit them myself and then pop to a local garage for a quick set-up on the timing, then go and get a re-map somewhere.
  474. #474
    i say we tryr and get a group buy at chipwizard lol
  475. #475
    yes i reckon you should try group buy at chipwizards aswell
  476. #476
    yea i was thinking that also, would be a good idea.

    Think thats where one of my mates took his for a remap, it in manchester yea?
  477. #477
    haha yea' a group buy remap would rock.
    Near Manchester yes Dan
  478. #478
    Mission. Is there not anywhere decent a bit closer to kent?
  479. #479
    dont worry motobruce il be going and i live near brighton lol

    p.s i used to live in ramsgate in kent,
  480. #480
    Could have a group of us spluttering and stalling trying to make our way up to manchester lol.
  481. #481
    haha yeah sounds good
  482. #482
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeeves_101 View Post
    i see where your coming from, but via paypal you will incur an extra charge etc, and the time it takes for me to with draw from paypal to my account.
    I'm afraid you have to consider PayPal or direct bank transfer in my case, as I live outside UK and have my bank account out there in Poland. I can pay anytime, but cheque is a very bad option in my case. It will take ages to deliver it and then you will have lots of fuss to cash a foreign cheque.
  483. #483
    he might actually do a group buy on the remap as they will be all similar maps and not take him long to map it
  484. #484
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers
    30.dannygti-106 gti ph3's
    31. Davevts - vts ph3's
    32.Slammed_ax -vts ph3 or ph4 to decide.
    33. GTI_TC - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    34. alexastall3 - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    35. westy2k1 - VTS - PH3's + Followers
    36. menmen - PH3's + Followers (VTS)
    37. saxolee1986 - PH3's + followers (VTS)
    38. lilsaxovts - PH3 (VTS)
    39. Dave_C_RR - PH3's (GTi) (from Rallye Register)
  485. #485
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by menmen View Post
    I'm afraid you have to consider PayPal or direct bank transfer in my case, as I live outside UK and have my bank account out there in Poland. I can pay anytime, but cheque is a very bad option in my case. It will take ages to deliver it and then you will have lots of fuss to cash a foreign cheque.

    yours will be more than £230 tho wont it cos the postage to outside uk is goin to be more.

    id stick wi uk orders personally.
  486. #486
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by menmen View Post
    I'm afraid you have to consider PayPal or direct bank transfer in my case, as I live outside UK and have my bank account out there in Poland. I can pay anytime, but cheque is a very bad option in my case. It will take ages to deliver it and then you will have lots of fuss to cash a foreign cheque.
    hmm, well cheque is the only option i'm afraid, as that is what newman have asked for. sorry
  487. #487
    cheques cool pm'd
  488. #488
    When we looking to start getting the cheques off?? I'm ready to send mine off, come the new year.

    Just thinking about how long it's going to take for Newmans to produce x30+ sets of cams + followers, and they aren't going to produce them without some payments first, so any chance on getting this moving soon'ish? The cheques will all have to go to 'jeeves', then wait for everyone, then go off to Newmans, then clear; and this may take a week or so.

    Just my thoughts on it, as I can see us not getting the cams until like end Feb, if we colllate the cheques end of Jan.
  489. #489
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    When we looking to start getting the cheques off?? I'm ready to send mine off, come the new year.

    Just thinking about how long it's going to take for Newmans to produce x30+ sets of cams + followers, and they aren't going to produce them without some payments first, so any chance on getting this moving soon'ish? The cheques will all have to go to 'jeeves', then wait for everyone, then go off to Newmans, then clear; and this may take a week or so.

    Just my thoughts on it, as I can see us not getting the cams until like end Feb, if we colllate the cheques end of Jan.
    i personaly think the longer we wait he more people we will get cause of the cash flow at xmas
  490. #490
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    When we looking to start getting the cheques off?? I'm ready to send mine off, come the new year.

    Just thinking about how long it's going to take for Newmans to produce x30+ sets of cams + followers, and they aren't going to produce them without some payments first, so any chance on getting this moving soon'ish? The cheques will all have to go to 'jeeves', then wait for everyone, then go off to Newmans, then clear; and this may take a week or so.

    Just my thoughts on it, as I can see us not getting the cams until like end Feb, if we colllate the cheques end of Jan.
    i can pay jan but not in too much of a rush to fit them tbh
  491. #491
    Steve have you found out about a chipwizards group buy mapping session? It sounds like a really good idea. He'd definatly knock money off if he had 30 people willing to pay 500 each!
  492. #492
    i wouldnt pay £500 for a remap..

    as he'll be doing the same car map it shud be very cheap like £250 or less :O, if everyone goes there.. but if this happens then it shud be a few months after the cams have been bought as these mods arent cheap!
  493. #493
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dave_C_RR View Post
    Steve have you found out about a chipwizards group buy mapping session? It sounds like a really good idea. He'd definatly knock money off if he had 30 people willing to pay 500 each!
    should i drop him an e-mail?
  494. #494
    Im in now just bought bodies so need some cams, cheers Tom.

    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers
    30.dannygti-106 gti ph3's
    31. Davevts - vts ph3's
    32.Slammed_ax -vts ph3 or ph4 to decide.
    33. GTI_TC - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    34. alexastall3 - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    35. westy2k1 - VTS - PH3's + Followers
    36. menmen - PH3's + Followers (VTS)
    37. saxolee1986 - PH3's + followers (VTS)
    38. lilsaxovts - PH3 (VTS)
    39. Dave_C_RR - PH3's (GTi) (from Rallye Register)
    40. Tommy_rallye PH4's + followers (from rallye register)
  495. #495
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS View Post
    should i drop him an e-mail?
    yes mate as your doing no harm in asking, when i was asking him for prices, i did indeed mention that someone would be asking him for a group buy so maybe he's expecting it, go on steve mate, try your best to get us a group buy and you could possibly orgainise it
  496. #496
    steve_vts - no harm in trying mate, plus would make an awesome day out if say 20-30 saxp'ers turned up. good photo session too.

    Well, i tried phoning newman today, but no luck, will try again tomorrow.
  497. #497
    Will be great if he does do a group buy. Its a hell of a trip for me (penzance, cornwall) plus the ball ache of a journey on an unmapped car plus the 500quid bill lol.
  498. #498
    he charges about 400 normally
  499. #499
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeeves_101 View Post
    hmm, well cheque is the only option i'm afraid, as that is what newman have asked for. sorry
    Alright then, I'll arrange for a cheque. I will wire money to my friend in London and she'll write an UK cheque - is that OK? Let me know about the extra shipping fee to Poland or else I will have to bother her again about sending it here. Thanks!
  500. #500
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by menmen View Post
    Alright then, I'll arrange for a cheque. I will wire money to my friend in London and she'll write an UK cheque - is that OK? Let me know about the extra shipping fee to Poland or else I will have to bother her again about sending it here. Thanks!
    i don't know if newman will send to poland tbh, tho i will ask for you.

    personally i think the easiest thing will be for your friend to pay via cheque and then post them to you.

    hope this helps.

    cheers
  501. #501
    al drop chippywizards an e-mail, thing is he could only probs do 4 cars tops in a day.
  502. #502
    well get a set amount of weekends booked, if he says hell do group buy, wait until the orders go through so we know how many people go ahead and will need a remap! then when we get the numbers, ask him how he would like to do it as if we do it to his satisfaction, well get it cheaper
  503. #503
    Have you asked Newman about the final reduction yet? We have way over 30 people wanting cams so will there be any further reductions? I'm just wondering if I'll be able to get the PH3's and Followers for 300 give or take a little delivered.
  504. #504
    no luck as yet mate

    have tried twice this morning and no luck, will try again abit later today, and will try till i get through to them, tho it maybe they aren't back till tues/weds as its now the weekend and new year.
  505. #505
    im getting a set of cat cams for one of the cars and this set of newmans, going to have them done and see what the difference really is between the two. will be a while like lol, would be good to have them mapped and rolling roaded on the same RR on the same day

    any idea when cash will be needed as i will probs be buggering off to angola again around the 5th of jan, not sure how long i will be away for??
  506. #506
    how much are the cams with a group buy... could someone pm me please so i no what the cost is incase i lose this post lol
  507. #507
    pm'd you
  508. #508
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts) +followers (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers
    30.dannygti-106 gti ph3's
    31. Davevts - vts ph3's
    32.Slammed_ax -vts ph3 or ph4 to decide.
    33. GTI_TC - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    34. alexastall3 - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    35. westy2k1 - VTS - PH3's + Followers
    36. menmen - PH3's + Followers (VTS)
    37. saxolee1986 - PH3's + followers (VTS)
    38. lilsaxovts - PH3 (VTS)
    39. Dave_C_RR - PH3's (GTi) (from Rallye Register)
    40. Tommy_rallye PH4's + followers (from rallye register)
  509. #509
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts) +followers (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers
    30.dannygti-106 gti ph3's
    31. Davevts - vts ph3's
    32.Slammed_ax -vts ph3 or ph4 to decide.
    33. GTI_TC - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    34. alexastall3 - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    35. westy2k1 - VTS - PH3's + Followers
    36. menmen - PH3's + Followers (VTS)
    37. saxolee1986 - PH3's + followers (VTS)
    38. lilsaxovts - PH3 (VTS)
    39. Dave_C_RR - PH3's (GTi) (from Rallye Register)
    40. Tommy_rallye PH4's + followers (from rallye register)
    41. motobruce- PH3's + followers (vts)

    Think there should be a date set as of when the last cheques should be send and what the final price is going to be as i dont want to send a cheque off then the next day find out youve managed to get a price drop. Also could take forever to receive the cams if theres no date when the group buy is over.
  510. #510
    Can't i just pay over the phone, cos my old cams are out and i'm ready to rebuild, so could do with them asap...?

    What's the price for the ph3's, followers and a cam belt?
  511. #511
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts) +followers (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers
    30.dannygti-106 gti ph3's
    31. Davevts - vts ph3's
    32.Slammed_ax -vts ph3 or ph4 to decide.
    33. GTI_TC - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    34. alexastall3 - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    35. westy2k1 - VTS - PH3's + Followers
    36. menmen - PH3's + Followers (VTS)
    37. saxolee1986 - PH3's + followers (VTS)
    38. lilsaxovts - PH3 (VTS)
    39. Dave_C_RR - PH3's (GTi) (from Rallye Register)
    40. Tommy_rallye PH4's + followers (from rallye register)
    41. motobruce- PH3's + followers (vts)
    42. carbontom PH3's (from rallye reg) -GTI

    thanks
    T.[/QUOTE]
  512. #512
    Keep up the good work jeeves! this group buy is much appreciated. Next time you speak to Newmans can you ask them about the valve springs for me please? Just want to know if they recommend stronger valve springs with the PH3's. Cheers mate.
  513. #513
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts) +followers (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers
    30.dannygti-106 gti ph3's
    31. Davevts - vts ph3's
    32.Slammed_ax -vts ph3 or ph4 to decide.
    33. GTI_TC - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    34. alexastall3 - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    35. westy2k1 - VTS - PH3's + Followers
    36. menmen - PH3's + Followers (VTS)
    37. saxolee1986 - PH3's + followers (VTS)
    38. lilsaxovts - PH3 (VTS)
    39. Dave_C_RR - PH3's (GTi) (from Rallye Register)
    40. Tommy_rallye PH4's + followers (from rallye register)
    41. motobruce- PH3's + followers (vts)
    42. carbontom PH3's (from rallye reg) -GTI
    43. -Joe- PH3'S + Followers "VTS"

    thanks
    T.[/quote]
  514. #514
    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts) +followers (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers
    30.dannygti-106 gti ph3's
    31. Davevts - vts ph3's
    32.Slammed_ax -vts ph3 or ph4 to decide.
    33. GTI_TC - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    34. alexastall3 - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    35. westy2k1 - VTS - PH3's + Followers
    36. menmen - PH3's + Followers (VTS)
    37. saxolee1986 - PH3's + followers (VTS)
    38. lilsaxovts - PH3 (VTS)
    39. Dave_C_RR - PH3's (GTi) (from Rallye Register)
    40. Tommy_rallye PH4's + followers (from rallye register)
    41. motobruce- PH3's + followers (vts)
    42. carbontom PH3's (from rallye reg) -GTI
    43. -Joe- PH3'S + Followers "VTS"
    44. JimmyP - Ph3 or Ph4's (undecided)106 gti (from rallye register)


    cheers jimmy
  515. #515
    what's the latest on this? dates planned yet and have you managed to get verification on final price reduction etc etc as we now in january
  516. #516
    I'm up for getting this group buy going, i can get a cheque off asap - as above, any ideas on final prices and dates??

    jeeves - when you speak to newmans can you try and get a rough timescale on getting the cams, once the cheques have cleared? It's just so I can make a decision whether to wait putting the vts engine in my car without cams, and put them in at a later date, or wait until the cams have come through.
  517. #517
    Hi there people.

    I emailed newman today, but as yet haven't had a reply. hopefully tomorrow i'll get a reply and i'll phone them to confirm, and if i don't have an email, i'll phone them anyway.

    Once i've heard from from i'll get the thread updated and get details of where to post cheques etc.

    Well dates, if i get through to them tomorrow, then basically work out what you want and the cost, then - write your name, username, addy and and order on a peice of paper, write a cheque and post it to me, then once i have that from everyone on the final list, i will send the entire lot off to newman.

    hope this sounds ok for everyone.

    Cheers
  518. #518
    sounds good to me !! I'm just eager to get the cams in and mapped up
  519. #519
    Just found this on the rallye forums when a group buy happened over there....

    ----------------------------------------------

    Hello Tom

    Prices as follows:-

    5 Sets £225.00
    10 Sets £200.00
    15 Sets £175.00
    All from new chilled iron blanks.

    Plus VAT

    Regrinds where applicable £175.00 Per Set

    Regards
    David Newman

    ---------------------------------------------

    We have over 40 people now. They must be able to match that price they said when the RR had a group buy.
  520. #520
    does that mean we are getting them for £175 +p&p+vat?
  521. #521
    im having to drop out due to lack of fundage, explained to jeeves and there seems to be shed loads of people already

    1. Jeeves_101 - VTS - PH3's
    2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
    3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
    4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
    6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    7. Pricey - PH3 - VTS
    8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's + followers (vts)
    9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts) +followers (vts)
    10. garysvts (vts)
    11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
    12. Soulless - VTS
    13. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
    14. Craigyyboi_Vts - Vts 16V (PH3)
    15. Roy_VTS -03' vts 16v (stuff it ph3) + followers
    16. Hecky - vts ph3 please
    17. Cat - VTS ph3's + followers
    18.Steve_VTS ph3's (ah go on then lmao)
    19. ViperGFX - PH3s - VTS
    20. camaro123-vts 16v (ph3)
    21. DAN-VTS - (PH3) + followers
    22. Finchowned - VTS (PH3) + Followers
    23. DROOPSTER - VTS (ph3) + FOLLOWERS
    24. Manc - VTS (PH3) + followers
    25. ricky p- vts (ph4) + followers
    26. chunker -vts (ph4) + lfollowers
    27. Saturn_Saxo - VTS PH3s + Followers!
    28. BOZ VTS PH3
    29. Scottish_Gaz - Vts (ph3) + Followers
    30.dannygti-106 gti ph3's
    31. Davevts - vts ph3's
    32.Slammed_ax -vts ph3 or ph4 to decide.
    33. GTI_TC - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    34. alexastall3 - PH3's + Followers - GTi
    35. westy2k1 - VTS - PH3's + Followers
    36. menmen - PH3's + Followers (VTS)
    37. saxolee1986 - PH3's + followers (VTS)
    38. lilsaxovts - PH3 (VTS)
    39. Dave_C_RR - PH3's (GTi) (from Rallye Register)
    40. Tommy_rallye PH4's + followers (from rallye register)
    41. motobruce- PH3's + followers (vts)
    42. carbontom PH3's (from rallye reg) -GTI
    43. -Joe- PH3'S + Followers "VTS"
    44. JimmyP - Ph3 or Ph4's (undecided)106 gti (from rallye register)
  522. #522
    It would be nice to go even cheaper than that seeing as potentially 40+ !! Is still a great price though !!!
  523. #523
    it would be nice to get money sent and this list ordered.
  524. #524
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by westy2k1 View Post
    it would be nice to get money sent and this list ordered.
    Agreed.
  525. #525
    Afternoon people.

    I've had a reply from newman, wooohooo.

    Right then, final prices and discounts are as follows -

    16 Valve cams for an order of about 30 sets = £225 all in
    8 Valve cams = £105 + VAT + £11.75 P+P
    Followers and Belts = 25% discount


    Belts -
    8 Valve belt = £15 -25% (then vat needs to be added)
    16 Valve belt = £44.50 -25% (then vat needs to be added)

    Followers -
    Hydarualic = £120 -25% (then vat needs to be added)
    Mechanical = £256 -25% (then vat needs to be added)

    Payment -
    i will pm details to all of you later, but i will require your -

    name,
    username,
    address,
    order info (eg what you want)
    and a cheque for the correct amount

    THE LISTS IN POST 1 ARE THE FINAL LISTS, UNLESS YOU ADD YOUR NAME BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.
    ANYONE WHO NO LONGER WANTS TO TAKE PART PLEASE PM ME AND I'LL REMOVE YOU FROM THE LIST IN POST 1.
  526. #526
    Nice !! You looking for the cheques now jeeves? Or next week once the list has been confirmed by everyone?

    Top class, can't wait to get this group buy going and get the cams !!!
  527. #527
    whats the difference between mechanical and hydraulic followers?
  528. #528
    i presume mechanical is for the 8v'ers and then hydraulic is for 16v'ers - not certain though but would seem logical.
  529. #529
    no, both followers are for 16V's.

    hydraulic are what come a standard, and mechanical are required if your using ph4 or higher, or using ph3 with high comp pistons, as you adjust them to give the corrcet valve/piston clearance.
  530. #530
    did you get my pm jeeves old boy.lol
  531. #531
    pm's replied to.

    will pm details tonight and answer any more questions i've recieved.

    cheers
  532. #532
    could you put up the final prices of the followers and belt to give me a rough idea of what the final price is including vat.irish vat and uk vat are different i presume
  533. #533
    thought these where gonna be £200 or less?
  534. #534
    i thought we wud get them 200 delivered but they aint seemed to budged on price
  535. #535
    think we shud sweat them with some competition, maybe from catcams?
    they know we all want cams and think by not budging well still pay it

    £25 x 40 = £1000 in their pocket :O
  536. #536
    hmmm does seem strange that the price is the same even though we have much more people interested now...

    £200 would have been ideal
  537. #537
    its ok all us saying all this, but has any1 actually contacted cat cams to ask? as we never know, they could beat this
  538. #538
    original price was 200 + vat + postage so came to £246.75 all in, and now its £225 all in.

    so it's a drop if not much, but every little helps.
  539. #539
    Anything better than the RRP is good in my eyes !! Let alone £100+ off !!
  540. #540
    yes but how many was that originally for? as this now for 30, 40+
  541. #541
    Sounds good. Ill work out exactly what i need to write on my cheque!

    Pm details over please mate as im definatley going ahead. Cars already in bits!

    Id rather pay £25 extra than wait another week or more for the deal to close!
  542. #542
    spose ya right, im in
  543. #543
    I'm definately in - pm me details of where to send cheque and info, and who to make cheque payable out to, i presume NEWMANS ??
  544. #544
    All good news jeeves! Good work

    Im guessing Newmans wont budge because they think alot of people will pull out, i bet we struggle to get 25/30 people actually paying...

    £225 all in is a great price
  545. #545
    £225 is an excellent price, i'm still in
  546. #546
    me too cant wait
  547. #547
    sorry for the delay, will pm everyone tonight.

    FAO rallyereg members - do you have sax-p accounts, or are your usernames that of your rr ones? if anyone knows the rallyereg members can they let me know, and then forward the pm to them.

    cheers
  548. #548
    i carnt pay til 21st now is this ok
  549. #549
    i've got a saxp account, put wanting PH3's and followers now, as unless running pistons you carnt run the PH4's without retard the cams which will the loose power so just off for PH3's for best valve-piston clearance.
  550. #550
    Right people, below is the info i need from you all.

    username
    name
    address
    order
    cheque to the correct amount and made payable to "NEWMAN CAMS", tho i need to double check this and will confirm tomorrow.

    this then needs to be sent to me, i'll pm all of you now.
  551. #551
    Once the "NEWMANS CAMS" is confirmed - is get the cheque and info off to you asap !!
  552. #552
    pm'd mate

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    Once the "NEWMANS CAMS" is confirmed - is get the cheque and info off to you asap !!
    Ditto
  553. #553
    EVERYONE HAS BEEN PM'D NOW!!
    i will confirm the name for the cheque and post tomorrow (if they are open tomorrow and i get through).

    Yes, once this is confirmed, you can start sending all the required info through to me.

    As for the price to put on the cheque, see below for final price and add up.

    VTS/Gti
    £225 (including vat & postage)

    1.4 & 1.6 8V
    £135.13 (including vat & postage)

    CAM FOLLOWERS
    25% off which ever you order, so prices are as follows -

    hydraulic = £105.75 (excluding postage, but don't need this if ordering cams)
    mechanical = £225.60 (excluding postage, but don't need this if ordering cams)

    CAMBELTS
    25% discount on these, so prices are -

    8V = £13.22 (excluding postage, but don't need this if ordering cams)
    16V = £39.22 (excluding postage, but don't need this if ordering cams)
  554. #554
    do you have any idea on how much postage is to n ireland??
  555. #555
    prices are good but do i want a new car
  556. #556
    PM'd you jeeves..
  557. #557
    I didnt get a PM! Whats the address I need to send my details to?
  558. #558
    saturn_saxo - postage to ireland is the same
    menmen - postage to poland is £37.50 via TNT
    steve_vts - no you don't
    Dave_C_RR - pm'd and davevts is making a post on rallye reg for me.

    cheers everyone.
  559. #559
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tommy_rallye View Post
    i've got a saxp account, put wanting PH3's and followers now, as unless running pistons you carnt run the PH4's without retard the cams which will the loose power so just off for PH3's for best valve-piston clearance.
    can someone PM me aswel. Cheers.
  560. #560
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeeves_101 View Post
    saturn_saxo - postage to ireland is the same
    menmen - postage to poland is £37.50 via TNT
    steve_vts - no you don't
    Dave_C_RR - pm'd and davevts is making a post on rallye reg for me.

    cheers everyone.
    lmao
  561. #561
    Is there anything special about the cambelts aswell?
    I can prob get a genuine citroen one cheaper than their price
  562. #562
    Once comfirmed name to write on cheque i will send or should i just send now
  563. #563
    i'll confirm the name monday as they aren't open now as i just tried.

    DAN_VTS - i don't think so, so it's up to you what you do.

    cheers
  564. #564
    ill check on mon and ill write cheque out and post it mon, tue latest

    jeeves, have u had anything back from other members cuz if we all send our cheques and say maybe too many have pulled out, newmans may bump the price back up, so that will mean us having to get another cheque
  565. #565
    as above ^^ I'll get my cheque out Mon/Tues at latest
  566. #566
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scottish_Gaz View Post
    ill check on mon and ill write cheque out and post it mon, tue latest

    jeeves, have u had anything back from other members cuz if we all send our cheques and say maybe too many have pulled out, newmans may bump the price back up, so that will mean us having to get another cheque
    yeah we need to know how many people pull out, maybe start a new list?
    Im sending my cheque off next week definatly
  567. #567
    yeh, make up a DEFINATELY list !! lol
  568. #568
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    yeh, make up a DEFINATELY list !! lol
    or a, ive received cheques from list.
  569. #569
    yes but he may only receive like 20 cheques and newmans might bump it up so they cheque will be invalid so we will have to send other etc but if we can get a list of who is sending a cheque then we will know how much to put on it
  570. #570
    guys am out sorry, fucked my car this morning and need to fix it so wont have spare cash for cams even selling my magnex to make money.
  571. #571
    Im still definatley in. Dont think soulless is on the list anymore. ill get him to confirm that tho.
  572. #572
    hey guys.

    the list in post 1 is the most up to date list, and anyone that's pm'd me saying they can't do this any more has been removed, so we are still looking good for at least 35-40 people.

    steve_vts - bummer to hear mate, hope you fix it all up.
  573. #573
    *edit*
  574. #574
    dan, the list in post 1 is a deffo list, people are being removed if they don't pm me, and if i don't recieve i cheque i'll remove them.
  575. #575
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeeves_101 View Post
    hey guys.

    the list in post 1 is the most up to date list, and anyone that's pm'd me saying they can't do this any more has been removed, so we are still looking good for at least 35-40 people.

    steve_vts - bummer to hear mate, hope you fix it all up.
    cheers, anyone want to buy my magnex
  576. #576
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeeves_101 View Post
    dan, the list in post 1 is a deffo list, people are being removed if they don't pm me, and if i don't recieve i cheque i'll remove them.
    k mate no worries
    Will be sending mine off next week anyway
  577. #577
    same here bud
  578. #578
    im definately in as promised ill post cheque once i recieve name of who to put on it
  579. #579
    i will send tomorrow
  580. #580
    David Newman & Co.
  581. #581
    Kool, cheque sent !!!!! You want to start a list with who's sent cheque, cheque received etc. ?? Like you did with the flocked dash group buy?
  582. #582
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    Kool, cheque sent !!!!! You want to start a list with who's sent cheque, cheque received etc. ?? Like you did with the flocked dash group buy?
    i will update list in post 1 as and when i receive the cheque's.

    cheers
  583. #583
    cheque sent ftw!!!!!!!!
  584. #584
    Will send mine tomorrow
  585. #585
    can I pay newmans direct with my card? As it would leave me very short until pay day.

    Also my mates wanting in on the action for an 8v ph4 for an early silver top, can that be added to the list?
  586. #586
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T View Post
    can I pay newmans direct with my card? As it would leave me very short until pay day.

    Also my mates wanting in on the action for an 8v ph4 for an early silver top, can that be added to the list?
    yeah that should be fine mate.

    pm me the details etc and i'll add.

    as long as the payment clears with newmans and you let me know, then thats cool.
  587. #587
    spot on jeeves, you're a legend!

    Will pm you details now. can you post up newmans number for me to phone to pay?
  588. #588
    jeeves, can you pm me your address for my mate to send the cheque

    edit:

    Just paid just now direct to newmans, do you need anything else from me for my cams?
  589. #589
    have recieved the 1st cheque today, kepp them coming as i would like them all asap so they can be sent to newman.

    list in post 1 will be updated as and when they arrive.

    cheers
  590. #590
    cheque sent ftw!
  591. #591
    sent mine today
  592. #592
    jeeves, have you had any pm's from anybody else than the 7 or 8 thats mentiones they have sent theirs in last 2 pages as theres like 40+ on list and not even half have been on to make a post about posting cheque, as we never going to get these for 225 posted if we cant even get half the list going through with it!! i know you said you'll keep updating your list, but thats only people who are contacting you saying their out, but i bet there are a good number of people that have ignored your pm and dont intend on paying and letting you know they are out, or forgotting or dont have money but to emabarassed or whatever to tell you
  593. #593
    ive just looked and i can only see about 8 people in last 3 pages since you put the date up that have replied and kept up to date with whats going on!!! sorry to be a paranoyer, but just dont see point in sending cheque of when its this obvious that its not going to happen, if im wrong then im sorry and ill just send mine as its sitting there ready to go, just sort this small issue out
  594. #594
    i will send the cheque as soon as i can find my cheque book
  595. #595
    i understand where your coming from mate, but i don't know what i can do about it tbh.

    if they don't pm me or post, then there not going to pay any attention to this thread if there out.
  596. #596
    for the record I never received a pm lol

    Also you need to change my name to paid on the list, or do you want me to scan a copy of my credit card statement? Although I am sure if you gave newman a call they could confirm I have paid.

    So far if the first page is right, thats 1 cheque received!
  597. #597
    post 1 updated.

    you didn't recieve a pm as it just said CAT, and i've only just realised that. whoops.
  598. #598
    list updated.
  599. #599
    sorry guys i got a good offer on some cat 708's so i've opted on them, plus just had to pay for my bodies to be fixed after the lad i got them off wont help me claim and i need the details off him to claim so has left me abit skint and had to pay out my own pocket for them to be repaired.
  600. #600
    Got mine already? Awsome
    Well thats six (including jeeves) at the moment, i really hope people pull their fingers out and get these cheques sent off asap

    Whens the closing date for these then jeeves? maybe you should send a pm to everyone letting them know a closing date
  601. #601
    Yes That Be Good, Plus That Means Everyone Has Had 2 Pm's From U, No Excuse, As They Either In Or Out
  602. #602
    have just amended the title, as will prob get more notice that way, and it's always being bumped up too.
  603. #603
    did you say its possible to pay via car jeeves?check would be very very difficult to get to you on time.
  604. #604
    cheque would take 2-3 days mate, should be fine.

    but yeah you can pay by card, just have to phone newman direct.
  605. #605
    heind sight is a brilliant thing but shuddah got mob numbers b4 ppl were put on the list!
  606. #606
    if i was to phone them would i just mention this group buy?
  607. #607
    yes, just say it's part of the group buy on sax-p
  608. #608
    then how will you know ive paid(unless i tell you of course)
    and do i get mine when the others get theirs or sooner?
  609. #609
    lol well if u ant paid they quite obviously wudnt post u the cams etc, as 4 deliv date jeeves wil tell ya tht
  610. #610
    Can you not just send a cheque this week? i sent my cheque yesterday afternoon and he got it today!
  611. #611
    danny_gti - i don't know if they'd post yours early, i'd expected they'd wait till they have all the cheque's and orders and they'll do everything in one go.
  612. #612
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DAN-VTS View Post
    Can you not just send a cheque this week? i sent my cheque yesterday afternoon and he got it today!
    no mate theres no money in the account till 2 weeks time lol.
    cheers jeeves.tbh id rathr ask silly questions and get it right than guess and miss out.
  613. #613
    Ahh point taken
    But the cheques wont be cashed in for ATLEAST 3 weeks anyway?
  614. #614
    no worries mate, i'm here to help and what not.

    anything you want, feel free to drop me a pm.
  615. #615
    if i can sort the cheque out im more than happy to do it,but if it gets too late then ill just pay by card so i dont miss out.
  616. #616
    no probs mate.
  617. #617
    Cum on people let's get the cheques in and get some cheap cams !!!
  618. #618
    Don't we need to fit some uprated valve springs to go with ph3s? Or is it just cams + new followers and off we go?
  619. #619
    yeh, just cams + followers should be okay for ph3's !!
  620. #620
    jeeves iv sent my cheque now
  621. #621
    ok great, will update when i get hom today if anymore cheques have arrived.
  622. #622
    Cheque sent today
  623. #623
    could i still join in on this?

    what is the equivalent cam for westcoast to a piper 285?

    thanks sam
  624. #624
    ill be quick on this and also is the vernier pulley discounted?
  625. #625
    I think it's the PH3, but newmans don't sell a vernier, would need to get one from wither catcam or piper or kent.

    Best to PM jeeves about joining in - don't see why it isn't too late if you get cheque off asap.
  626. #626
    as raunchz said, drop me a pm mate, and i'll give you the run down.
  627. #627
    Mine is on it's way to you now
  628. #628
    Any ideas on dates at all jeeves??
  629. #629
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    Any ideas on dates at all jeeves??
    id personally say probably not seen as tho 40 odd ppl signed up and hardly any1 sent cheques....how annoying, sori guys for the rant but i'm a bit pissed off to say the least, im sure i'm not alone.....
  630. #630
    I just hope we can get enough cheques together to still get the £225 all in price!!! Should be able to as i reckon Newmans would honor it!!

    Just hope it doesn't take a while to get things moving, as ideally I'd like the cams before middle of Feb before I put my VTS engine in, so I can put them in and replace all timing bits with engine out as opposed to in the engine bay.
  631. #631
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by westy2k1 View Post
    id personally say probably not seen as tho 40 odd ppl signed up and hardly any1 sent cheques....how annoying, sori guys for the rant but i'm a bit pissed off to say the least, im sure i'm not alone.....
    I totally agree, I understand some people will have to pull out due to finances, but the least they could do is say that they have dropped out which a few have.

    Does anyone know any of them personally? If so they could check to see if they are aware of the cheques needing to be sent.
  632. #632
    Did you receive my cheque?

    Come on people pay up....
  633. #633
    ^^^ That message was from motobruce....

    Didnt realise was logged in on my mates account.
  634. #634
    I dont believe this still only 6 of us, for fuck sake lads if you had no intension of paying then dont put your name down! simple!

    And for all those on that list that DONT pay within these 2 weeks will be getting bad repped
  635. #635
    ive already explained my situation but agree with dan 100%,these guys are rlying on you people to get discount,its not something that should be thought of lightly as as people are depending on you.fair enough people will pull out they always do.
    if you have any doubts about payments or not being able to pay then post up asap or pm jeeves (if he doesnt mind).
  636. #636
    May sound a bit silly but it might be worth making another thread that isnt a sticky, dont know about anyone else but i hardly look at the stickys just the normal posts. This is silly now we get so much interest but when it comes to paying up (and since its been made sticky) Hardly anyone has posted!
  637. #637
    I agree with what you mean about the sticky !!
  638. #638
    Sorry lads, had a rise at work and they will no longer pay for my train season ticket like they used to, so I have had to pay £2840 for my train ticket to get me to work and back so I am now broke as you can imagine. If I get a bonus in the next couple of weeks which I doubt then I will be back on but until them I am out.
  639. #639
    im still in lads, mine be there soon, dont worry
  640. #640
    you got my cheque yet?
  641. #641
    just wrote my cheque now
    do you want my name and info on the back of the cheque or on a seperate piece of paper?
  642. #642
    Do it on both mate just incase they lose the bit of paper or the cheque!
  643. #643
    no cheques arrived at the weekend, hopefully some will come today, just keep them coming.
  644. #644
    received 3 cheques today.

    am updating list now and keep them coming people.
  645. #645
    Slowly getting there !! lol, 9 out of 39 people !!!
  646. #646
    thats absurd!!
  647. #647
    Jeeves can you remove Stefans name from the 8v list, he's pulled out.
  648. #648
    ill be sending mine this week, just waiting to see fi any point first, how many do we need to get them for 225 delivered, i know we had 39 on list but was there a number we defo need for it to go through?
  649. #649
    for the cams at £225 delivered we need around 30 people.
  650. #650
    mine will be posted today
  651. #651
    wel can see this slowly coming together, have you pm'd remaining people a reminder pm? just to make sure they aint forgot?
  652. #652
    Sorry send the details of what i need to do....my heads been away with it lately!!

    cheers
  653. #653
    LOL looks like i will be writing you out another cheque the way things are going at the mo. Why dont you start another post see if we can get some more interest
  654. #654
    lol, it's slowly getting there !!! I reckon Newmans would honour the £225 price seeing as some people have paid direct to them, plus from the initial price for 10+, £225 isn't a lot cheaper, so to save the hassle I don't reckon Newmans will ask for more ££ if less people pay.
  655. #655
    Good point, Still would be nice if we could get 20
  656. #656
    would someone copy and paste the details, and pm them to me please!!

    i need jeeves address or whatever the scenario is!!

    thanks
  657. #657
    I'm very very interested in this, would have posted up sooner if I had seen the thread!

    But, am I too late? Im after the PH3 Cams for a 16v.....

    Have pm'd Jeeves btw
  658. #658
    Cheques are still being collected right now, so I'm sure if you can get a cheque off to jeeves asap, i presume by the end of the week, then I can't see why not.

    We need as many people as we possible can for the price to stay at £225.

    I'm sure jeeves will be on later tonight and will confirm and send you details.
  659. #659
    Thats sound, as I should get paid tomorrow, hopefully I aint too late!

    I'll await his PM and see what he says
  660. #660
    dannyhall - you have a pm and your not too late.

    and dannyhall & saturn_saxo - i'll pm you the details again.


    sorry i've not been online for abit, just spent the last 20 hrs in bed, feel like a big bag of shite (none left now ) got the shakes and the lot.
  661. #661
    mine was posted yesterday so should be with you today or tomorrow
    i hope the price stays low, ive made a few plans that centre around getting these cams
  662. #662
    Dito - I'm looking to save up and get dome KMS DTH throttle bodies + standalone in the summer when I start my placement year. So these cams won't go in until then, and seem perfect, as I'm not initially looking to get anthing done to the bottom end, e.g forged pistons etc., so don;t want anything too wild!!
  663. #663
    Jeeves - you've not put yourself as paid on the front list
  664. #664
    Sent my cheque off!!! Thanks jeeves mate
  665. #665
    Got most parts for my plans, these cams will be the semi last few parts needed.

    10 according to the list paid so far (including jeeves I assumed) bit of a joke really, how long has the cheque been requested for? A week minimum I'm sure
  666. #666
    i know this is a wierd question but is someone whos in the group buy in here also on ZSOC and after a dastek?
    only reason i ask is my friend is on ZSOC and has see a thread about someone buying cams through this group buy and is after a dastek
    if its you then pm me cos ive got one
  667. #667
    LOL - you pm'd me before I pm'd you!
  668. #668
    jeeves - Just wandering when you were planning on sending the cheques off?? Are we just waiting for everyone else?? Another 2 weeks?

    Come on everyone!! Get your cheques off !!!!!
  669. #669
    going to give it till a week tomorrow.

    so the deadline is friday 25th, then i'll get packing and post to newmans on the monday, which is the 28th.
  670. #670
    what will you do if you dont get over 20 cheques? you going to still send and see if accepted or what?
  671. #671
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scottish_Gaz View Post
    what will you do if you dont get over 20 cheques? you going to still send and see if accepted or what?
    yeah, will just send them what i have and see what happens.

    a few have paid direct, so newmans have funds and may be starting to make them ones, i don't know.

    we shall see.
  672. #672
    How many people we standing at now that have paid ? 11 including youself jeeves??
  673. #673
    yeah, it's about that.

    tho i believe a few cheques are on there way and 1 or 2 may pay direct.
  674. #674
    ok well i promise that i will send mine over weekend, its writting out and just needs sent, was waiting abit to see if there was any point but fuck it, ill just send as i doubt newmans are guna give all us our money back
  675. #675
    i see youve recieved my cheque, was all the info ok?
  676. #676
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hecky View Post
    i see youve recieved my cheque, was all the info ok?
    yep, was all good mate.

    cheers
  677. #677
    Thought I'd stick a post up just confiming what I'm doing ref this group buy, I am just confirming the purchase of a VTS which will dictate if I have a set of PH3's or not, once I know what I'm doing I shall reply to this post.

    Hope thats ok.

    ManC
  678. #678
    ive lost me cheque book god knows when last time i used it was, but like i said to jeeves, i can pay direct jsut waiting to no its goin ahead!
  679. #679
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by slammed_ax View Post
    ive lost me cheque book god knows when last time i used it was, but like i said to jeeves, i can pay direct jsut waiting to no its goin ahead!
    the weekend of the 26th * 17th is the deadline for cheques getting to me.

    i'll be posting everything on tueasday or wednesday (leaves monday as an emergency turn up day ), but what i have will be sent, and hopefully as peeps have already paid things should happen.
  680. #680
    i carnt belive people are messing about 220 quid all in is a bargain iv had ph3 in my vts for over a month now 157.4bhp on standard ecu and not remapped an that was on chipwizzard rollers send ur money guys
  681. #681
    You got 157 without a remap ? Was that with tweaked timing ? How does it drive unmapped?
  682. #682
    i have no way of sending a cheque can i do it any other way??
  683. #683
    If you ring Newmans, and tell them your paying by card for the groupbuy on sax-p I'm sure you can pay that way as other people have. Then just pm jeeves when Newmans have accepted your payment.
  684. #684
    just emailed them
  685. #685
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    You got 157 without a remap ? Was that with tweaked timing ? How does it drive unmapped?
    i also want to know how car rang without remap
  686. #686
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Roy-VTS View Post
    just emailed them
    phone them mate, will get a response alot quicker.

    i found i had to wait a day or 2 with emails, not the quickest tbh.

    you can go get a bankers cheque and send that to me, pretty much the same as a cheque tbh.
  687. #687
    Yeh, if it made 157 without a remap and ran okay - then I'm going to fit my Newmans and then save up for standalone.

    As opposed to leaving the Newmans, and fitting them when I could afford standalone.
  688. #688
    only emailed because i thought it would be closed now and tommorow lol is it not possible to paypal you the money?
  689. #689
    you'd probably have to pay a bit extra to cover the paypal costs. I can imagine around £10 extra.
  690. #690
    REMINDER PM HAS BEEN SENT TO THOSE UN-MARKED ON THE LIST.

    I have just sent a reminder to those that are unhighlighted on the list.
    Hopefully a few more cheque's will arrive and the numbers will go up abit.


    Roy-VTS - i don't want to deal paypal, it takes to long tbh and all the fee's are just a pain. If you can get a bankers draft or a parent to loan you a cheque, then that would be great.
  691. #691
    right, 1 or 2 more have been removed and some highlighted due to not being on for awhile, but you never know.

    also, there should be a few more cheque's and direct payments happening in the next few days, so the numbers should bump up abit more.

    at the moment there is about 12/13 including myself, tho i reckon we'll hit 20 , tho hopefully with the reminder a few more will send the cheque's.

    Cheers everyone
  692. #692
    hey guys i was justw ondering if it would be possibe to order just foolowers form this gorup buy?? i have already got a set of catcams 708's and all i want is the followers, would this be possible?? also would the cat cams run ok wioth newmans followers??

    thanks
  693. #693
    I don't see why not, best bet is to PM jeeves to sort it out as he's organising the groupbuy.
  694. #694
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by coolj522 View Post
    hey guys i was justw ondering if it would be possibe to order just foolowers form this gorup buy?? i have already got a set of catcams 708's and all i want is the followers, would this be possible?? also would the cat cams run ok wioth newmans followers??

    thanks
    can't see that being a problem mate, and i don't see why the wouldn't run ok.

    you can run 708's or PH3's on std followers.
  695. #695
    Cant wait to get these cams fitted !!!!!!!!
  696. #696
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by andywiddss1 View Post
    i carnt belive people are messing about 220 quid all in is a bargain iv had ph3 in my vts for over a month now 157.4bhp on standard ecu and not remapped an that was on chipwizzard rollers send ur money guys
    Hhmmm....

    What does it idle like mate? And what mods have you got?

    Glad you got my cheque Jeeves!
  697. #697
    Sorry jeeves but im out, decided to go straight to throttle body route using catcam 734's. Sorry again
  698. #698
    it idles fine mate we messed with the timing abit inlet retarded abit an exhust advanced abit iv got ported =polished = skimmed head miltek stainless manifold magnex stainless single box system with cat bypass pipe k-n appolo enclosed filter with cold air feed iv got a cheap ebaychip in the ecu to raise the rev limiter to 7800rpm spent 15-20 mins taiking to wayne at chipwizzard when i had it on his rollers he said with a ported an polshed throttle would pull 160bhp
  699. #699
    So you reckon the newams ph3's would be okay fitted for a while, if i set them up with a dti guage/degree wheel, whilst I save up for a remap??

    I'm just worried about the fueling, as with them in I'll be so tempted to 'give it some beans' and I don't to damage anything with the fueling off.
  700. #700
    u will have to mess with the timming to get them to tick over it was wayne that told me to retard the inlet an advance the exhust to get them to tick over as for the fueling the standard ecu is self learning so it will work out u have changed the cams an timming and adjust the fuelling but it can only do this within the parammeters of the ecu
  701. #701
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeeves_101 View Post
    can't see that being a problem mate, and i don't see why the wouldn't run ok.

    you can run 708's or PH3's on std followers.
    Ok mate, i will maybe order slome followers then, when is the dedline for pordering them, also when would they b arriving if i paid by this week.

    i know it will run ok with standard followers, bt apparently because they are hydraulic they burn themselves out after a while?? any truth in this? also i was told to buy solid ones when i replaced them, r these newmans ones solid followers?

    thanks
  702. #702
    The price for the followers is for just replacement ones - they shouldn't burn themselves out quicker - it's just good practise to replace them as your fitting new cams, hence why most of the people in the group buy have gone for followers too.

    Solids are more expensive, best bet it to look on Newmans website, don't know about price though
  703. #703
    ok cheers raunchz, will get a look on their site to see what i can afford!!lol!
  704. #704
    all prices are in post 1 mate.

    have a gander there.
  705. #705
    whats difference with the 2 types of followers?
  706. #706
    As I've read, if you are reving aver around 7800-8000 rpm then you are going to need solid followers. The reason for reving this high is because some of the wild cams make their peak power around these rpm's, hence needing solids with wild cams!

    Whereas, when your putting cams in that don't need to rev over 7600-7800 as they aren't making power up there, and your rev limit is around there, then you are okay with standard followers.

    Although if you are going to hitting off the limiter all the time and up in the 7k+ most of the time, then probably best to get solids.

    This is how I understand it from reading threads.
  707. #707
    solids? standards? mechanical? hydrolic? which ones is which?
  708. #708
    you can get hydraulic and solid followers.

    hydro are the same as standard and are self adjusting to a point and are perfectly fine to use on any cams upto and including PH3's/708's.

    solid ones are only needed for PH4's and higher (and equivalent), due to valve piston clearence issues, and the solid ones are adjusted by person, thus giving you the correct clearence as stated by the cam requirement.
  709. #709
    how many ppl have payed so far jeeves?
  710. #710
    jeeves, what is the total price for hydraulic followers plus postage to northern ireland???

    also when would be the soonest i would be able to get these?
  711. #711
    i payed today direct, ph3 and followers
  712. #712
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by coolj522 View Post
    jeeves, what is the total price for hydraulic followers plus postage to northern ireland???

    also when would be the soonest i would be able to get these?
    postage is the same to NI, so i think it's about £330.75, but price's are in post 1.

    as for delivery, newmans said it would take them upto around 21 days to make ALL the cams ready for shipping.
  713. #713
    21 days Thats fair enough i suppose, better get them cheques sent off then You still having the deadline for the weekend jeeves?
  714. #714
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DAN-VTS View Post
    21 days Thats fair enough i suppose, better get them cheques sent off then You still having the deadline for the weekend jeeves?
    i know it's a fair wait, but it's alot of cams to make too i spose.

    yep, monday is the last day, then if any do arrive REALLY late, as in a few days later, i'll sned them seperate.
  715. #715
    Just imagine what it would have been like if around 30+ would have actually gone through with it - would have taken ages to make all the cams!! Can't see it taking 21 days to produce 20odd sets of cams & followers, but we'll see!!! Just want to get them fitted and mapped up !!!!
  716. #716
    im in a bit of a pickle, i cant find my cheque book and i had one writting out aswell but its dissappered, but i still want in, jeeves i remember u saying that it i go into bank, i can get some sort of cheque from them to pay? is that right? if so i can send it sat and u should receive mon or tue
  717. #717
    yes thats right mate.

    go to the bank and ask for a banker's cheque, or banker's draft (same thing just different names in diff bank's), they'll write it out and then it is garantueed to clear to.
  718. #718
    yeh, it's a bankers draft I think - I've never used one before so don;t know how they work really, I presume it's just a cheque from your bank on your behalfm from yoru account.
  719. #719
    ok well sat only time ill get and ill do it, i can now see this is defo happening as quite a few paid and posted cheques
  720. #720
    another cheque arrived today.

    come people, not long left to they go, so any cheque's lying around, get them to me asap.
  721. #721
    cant wait for these beauties :d, pity i cant afford a standalone at the min
  722. #722
    Neither can I !! I don't think they'll be fitted until summer, when I can afford some bodies and standalone.
  723. #723
    Just done the deed and paid direct with Newman's

    ManC
  724. #724
    good lad :d, jeeves will update list as paid when he's on
  725. #725
    only got 16 ppl....

    we still eligible for the price?
  726. #726
    Can't see why not, initially they quoted jeeves prives for 5 and 10+ people - and the final price seems like the next progression on from that, i.e. 15+ people, plus some people have already paid newmans direct, so surely they won't ask for more money because of the lack of numbers - only time will tell though, but should be okay !!
  727. #727
    evening people.

    sorry for no weekend update, have been away.

    davevts - we should be fine mate, going to have at least 20, so double the amount needed for the original price, so i reckon all is good to go.
  728. #728
    You posting the cheques off tomorrow ???
  729. #729
    when you sending the cheques mate
  730. #730
    yes, i will be posting the cheques tomoz.

    will wait till the post has been, just incase, but they'll be gone before last collection.

    then any late arrivals will go seperately.
  731. #731
    gdgd cant wait
  732. #732
    does anyone know who john chisholm is?

    i recieved his cheque, but have no username.

    cheers
  733. #733
    so how many names was on the list an how many people payed up when the time came im interested as iv got ph3 in my vts would like to see a few others using them
  734. #734
    Cheers BOZ, i worked out it was you.

    origanlly around 40ish on the list, and it ended up around 20, so half left.
  735. #735
    the cheques going off today ?? So should be 21days max until we receive them ??
  736. #736
    that sounds about right ha ha as long as u still get a good price then its worth it when i fitted mine an had it on the rollers after i rang longmans an told them what sort of power they was putting out they are good guys an they sed people never ring them to give them any sort of power feedback im happy with mine
  737. #737
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    the cheques going off today ?? So should be 21days max until we receive them ??
    would of been going today, but the bastarding post office closed at 1, and i was down the pub having a few cidars

    they'll be gone tomorrow without a doubt, so no need to worry people.
  738. #738
    lol, I wish I was in the pub right now . . . . . . . sodin' uni exams !!
  739. #739
    cany wait for these now!!
  740. #740
    it's done, just posted this extra special post.

    is recorded, insured and tracked, and will arrive before 1pm tomorrow.
  741. #741
    Great, nice one jeeves !!!! Can't wait to get these cams !!!! Am interested to see what they can do !
  742. #742
    Nice one jeeves
    The countdown begins
  743. #743
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeeves_101 View Post
    does anyone know who john chisholm is?

    i recieved his cheque, but have no username.

    cheers
    sorry mate, thats me lol BOZ

    what a numpty, carnt believe i forgot me username on there
  744. #744
    can we phone them up and pay by card
  745. #745
    Yes you can as some people have done
    Think you just have to tell them your part of the sax-p group buy
  746. #746
    cool as any one got the phone number for were we are gettin them from
  747. #747
    quick websearch reveals:
    (0)1689-857109
  748. #748
    have i missed the boat??
  749. #749
    probably not if you're paying direct mate.

    But jeeves, sorry to do this so late, but due to a change of circumstances I'm going to have to pull out, although shouldn't make a difference for the price as it seems theres enough for the price anyway.

    Sorry about this guys
  750. #750
    you paid direct tho didn't you?

    so you'll need to phone them up and do what ever needs doing i guess.
  751. #751
    Mines done 83,000 miles, will I need followers too then? As I've read that any engine with highish miles will need them, and if I do need them, I may just be priced out of the deal.. Also, hydraulic? Mechanical? What ones would I need if I was too get enough cash?
  752. #752
    hydrualic would do you fine mate.

    mechanical is really only needed for ph4 and higher.
  753. #753
    Im having second thoughts now aswell But i wont pull out, worst comes to worst i will just sell them for the price i bought them
  754. #754
    Just had a dispute with the old man, he reckons i'm stupid for spending so much on these cams (ph3) as he reckons it'll give a minimal gain, and that I should've sold it and got a faster car.. Is he chatting crap, or is he right? I've got a 4-2-1 manifold and de-cat ready to go on too, on top I already have a green cotton induction kit and a magnex 3 1/2 inch cat-back exhaust on. Wont all this give decent gains?
  755. #755
    with all those mods, the cams and a remap should see you 150-160 bhp.

    doesn't sound alot, but it's type r speed then 0-60 wise, so it'll shift about.
  756. #756
    jeeves what sort of time frame are we looking for these to arrive
  757. #757
    u will get 155bhp ish ive got same as u sort of an got 157.4 bhp on chippwizzards rollers unmapped mate do a search i started a big thread about this iv now got a ported an polished throttle body an im running 160bhp i dont think thats bad really mate
  758. #758
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by andywiddss1 View Post
    u will get 155bhp ish ive got same as u sort of an got 157.4 bhp on chippwizzards rollers unmapped mate do a search i started a big thread about this iv now got a ported an polished throttle body an im running 160bhp i dont think thats bad really mate
    did you do a dyno before and after the port and polish tb, are are you guessin you have 160 now
  759. #759
    Yeah, after paying to get the cams fitted, i wont be able to get it re-mapped for a while tho, this wont hurt will it? Got MOT in august, wont mess everything up will it??
  760. #760
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTS_Pjsaunders06 View Post
    jeeves what sort of time frame are we looking for these to arrive

    when i spoke to the guy at newmans today, he said he was just about to process the order, and that they should be here next week mate, hope that helps..
  761. #761
    people who paid direct, hav the taking the money out of your accounts yet? mines still in
  762. #762
    I paid direct & nothing has been taken out of my account either...
  763. #763
    wats the deal with me wanting a set now again oris it to late?
  764. #764
    me too, what do cams do for a VTR?... i cant be bothered to trawl through 38 pages sorry how do they boost VTR and what will the end result be condisering it will have raceland induction supersprint mainfold, de-cat and exhaust also cam and rolling roaded... remap wot else?
  765. #765
    The money for my cams has been deducted now.

    ManC
  766. #766
    yeah mines gone out too
  767. #767
    should be done around 14/15th feb, this is straight from david newman.

    cheers
  768. #768
    Money's come out of my bank account for the cheque . . . . . they must be almost ready !!!
  769. #769
    ^ Ditto!
  770. #770
    Same here, shame i dont want them anymore. oh well
  771. #771
    sell them to me then as i tried paying with a cancelled credit card
  772. #772
    pm'd
  773. #773
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DAN-VTS View Post
    Same here, shame i dont want them anymore. oh well
    Snap, decided not to fit them too now as Im selling car soon. Hope I can sell these cams now...
  774. #774
    You should easily be able to get your money back on them - best bet is to just put them on ebay, but try and sort out not to put them on at the same time as might lessen the final price you get,
  775. #775
    Could someone who wants to sell a set of cams plesae PM either myself or Ross (RCD-Performance) and tell us the price you paid and the cams you've gone for as we may be interested in picking up a VTS pair

    Thanks
    Andy
    RCD Performance
  776. #776
    if anyone wants to sell there set of ph3's then please pm me, i have a mate buying a vts and he's after some cams.

    cheers
  777. #777
    same as above.

    would newmans be interested in doing this again if we can get togither another 10 people? ones like me which will miss this one.

    anyone else wanna jump on this one with me.
  778. #778
    anyone got these? del is expected today and tomorrow isnt it?
  779. #779
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by davevts View Post
    anyone got these? del is expected today and tomorrow isnt it?
    yeah, i was told it would be around 14/15, tho i can see it more being mon/tue tbh.
  780. #780
    Now that the cams are sorted do you reckon Chip Wizards will be up for doing a group buy?
  781. #781
    if they are where are they based?
  782. #782
    Up near Manchester
  783. #783
    Anyone recieved these yet?
  784. #784
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeeves_101 View Post
    Anyone recieved these yet?
    Nope, no sign of mine yet.....
  785. #785
    i havent even had any money out my account mate, i think i will pass on this now sorry dude
  786. #786
    moneys deducted but no sign of cams.

    maybe a phonecall is in order jeeves to see when we should expect them...
  787. #787
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by davevts View Post
    moneys deducted but no sign of cams.

    maybe a phonecall is in order jeeves to see when we should expect them...
    think i agree m8y i'm looking really forward to having these fitted but they seem to be a tad long winded
  788. #788
    lol, I bet there's one man in Newmans slogging away to produce 40 individual cams in the back somewhere, working night and day, due to this bulk order !! lol
  789. #789
    i rang them up.

    there is a delay becuase some of the cheques have bounced!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF

    SHOULD be ready by the end of next week but no promises he said, it all depends on when they get the cash.

    FFS, how can you enter a group buy and not have the right cash in your bank to pay for them?
  790. #790
    well its not mine, the moneys gone from my account a while ago
  791. #791
    ^ Ditto

    And i earn £500 a month and managed to pay for them okay.....
  792. #792
    I payed for mine on my card over the phone too, so its not me.....
  793. #793
    I had money in account and bugger all happened so now i have withdrawn as its took so long lol
  794. #794
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Roy-VTS View Post
    sell them to me then as i tried paying with a cancelled credit card
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ lol
  795. #795
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTS_Pjsaunders06 View Post
    I had money in account and bugger all happened so now i have withdrawn as its took so long lol
    have you contacted them to tell them your not interested anymore?

    as i am led to believe they are waiting for all payments
  796. #796
    i said that i didnt want them on here and said to withdraw me from list thats what a few other people did
  797. #797
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTS_Pjsaunders06 View Post
    i said that i didnt want them on here and said to withdraw me from list thats what a few other people did
    after you had sent off the cheque?

    once the cheques have been sent its out of jeeves hands, so posting on here isnt gonna solve the problem.

    sadly you are one of the few holding others up..
  798. #798
    damn it, well i had money in my account till yesterday. Nothing was taken out so unless they took money out account today it cant be me
  799. #799
    The money has been taken out of my account, so my cheque hasn't bounced! Just want to get the cams n followers through.

    Can't believe people have just let the cheque bounce, would have been better to ring them and say about it, and then let jeeves know about what they are doing - so he can monitor/see about numbers.

    I just hope the numbers aren't so low that they aren't going to do them for the set price, even though they've taken the money.
  800. #800
    how frustrating GRRRRRRRRR mine was a bankers draft so it definately hasn't bounced, come on guys buck up us others want our cams :s i also thought they wud jus send cams out to those ppl whose cheques have cleared...?
  801. #801
    my moneys gone out of my account. Just want these poxy things so i can sell them on
  802. #802
    im still up for sending money tomorrow if numbers fall but jeeves said im too late.
  803. #803
    you should ring them up and ask
  804. #804
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by westy2k1 View Post
    how frustrating GRRRRRRRRR mine was a bankers draft so it definately hasn't bounced, come on guys buck up us others want our cams :s i also thought they wud jus send cams out to those ppl whose cheques have cleared...?
    i also believed this, maybe its worth asking...
  805. #805
    I can see the for sale section being flooded with cams! lol
  806. #806
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RCD-Performance View Post
    I can see the for sale section being flooded with cams! lol
    very true, you might just get a nice health wave of interest in this ecu technology of yours. people like myself will be looking about in the very near future for some management solution.
  807. #807
    if a set comes up very cheap i will buy them as i know they work well ha ha
  808. #808
    Anyones come yet?? Looks like sometime next week
  809. #809
    has anyone got one to chipwizzards yet to see if they will do a deal?
  810. #810
    Ive got a dastek which i will be selling highest bidder wins
  811. #811
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DAN-VTS View Post
    Ive got a dastek which i will be selling highest bidder wins
    how much you planning on gettin for it?

    they are doin a special offer to strathycruise members where they are doin the remap for 250
  812. #812
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by davevts View Post
    very true, you might just get a nice health wave of interest in this ecu technology of yours. people like myself will be looking about in the very near future for some management solution.
    We have decided to do a group buy for sax-p members once they are in production. This will give the guys who got good prices on cams, good prices on management to run them

    And of course anyone else who enteres the group buy

    Ross
    RCD Performance
  813. #813
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RCD-Performance View Post
    We have decided to do a group buy for sax-p members once they are in production. This will give the guys who got good prices on cams, good prices on management to run them

    And of course anyone else who enteres the group buy

    Ross
    RCD Performance
    any timings/dates on this, as im sure im not the only one in saying i could do with a little saving and prior notice.
  814. #814
    ^^^^ I'm just saving as much as I can afford to, so hopefully by summer can upgrade to standalone + (hopefully DTH bodies) !!
  815. #815
    fk sake, all this waiting is doing my head in
  816. #816
    Hope they are here this week - not that i'll be fitting them until can afford standalone, but is good to know your not waiting for things !!
  817. #817
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Craigyyboi_Vts View Post
    how much you planning on gettin for it?

    they are doin a special offer to strathycruise members where they are doin the remap for 250
    hopefully 130 ish
  818. #818
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by davevts View Post
    any timings/dates on this, as im sure im not the only one in saying i could do with a little saving and prior notice.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    ^^^^ I'm just saving as much as I can afford to, so hopefully by summer can upgrade to standalone + (hopefully DTH bodies) !!
    Well we will have the first prototype the end of next week, then a few days after that the first batch of 5 will come along, so pretty much then really.

    As soon as the "yeah it all works, we've not buggered up our wiring specification" statement is out to the guys we are contracting to actuallybuild them, then a group buy post will be set up in our "offers" section and hopefully we will recieve enough interest to do a seriously good deal on the first 10 or maybe more ECU's

    Hope this helps guys

    Ross
    RCD.
  819. #819
    do we have to meet u for the mapping on this system as ur very far from me and it would be a big effort coming everytime i want it changed
  820. #820
    We can come out to you for a fuel fee/flight fee (whatever it costs)

    Ross
    RCD.
  821. #821
    feck. have i missed the group buy?
  822. #822
    I think you have, if i was you I'd call Newmans and ask if you can join in, and give payment straight away over the phone, might help with the numbers !
  823. #823
    u got their numbermate? want these cams...
  824. #824
    heres there no mate 01689857109
  825. #825
    My cheque cleared on the 12th of feb. Anyone recieved theres yet?

    Whos planning on getting a remap from chipwizards so i can give them i ring and give them a rough idea.
  826. #826
    I'm planning on going for the RCD Performance PNP ECU system.
  827. #827
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    I'm planning on going for the RCD Performance PNP ECU system.
    Highly tempted myself, we should wait till we get our cams then ask RCD Performance to start a group buy for the PnP ecu setup...

    ManC
  828. #828
    Yeh, if the group buy price looks to offer a good discount then I'm going to go for it now, and put it on a card!! But if it offers a saving of like £40odd, then I'm going to wait, save up and then do it in the summer.
  829. #829
    Anyone got any results from these yet?

    I'm assuming the majority have gone for PH3's?

    What else would I need to do to run PH4's???
  830. #830
    I prusme the PH4's would need rebated pistons and throttle bodies ?!

    Anyone got their cams yet?? Surely this is getting beyond a joke now as we still don't have the cams ??

    I'm proably not going to be fitting mine until summer, but even so it's frustrating that it's taking so long - surely no one will get their cams until the cheques that have bounced are paid/another cheque written??? So that the numbers are high enough to warrant the discount they've offered??
  831. #831
    I might give them a ring tomorrow and see if i can get my money back
    poor service
  832. #832
    Give them a call and see what's going on - if they are waiting for more payments, then is probably worth them giving everyone their money back.

    I don't mind waiting if it's been confirmed that it's definately going ahead and we've been waiting for them to make all the cams + followers, as far as I know at the moment all our cheques have cleared, then some cheques bounced, and that's the last of it.
  833. #833
    if u wanna see the difference in ph3 ph4 ect this is the site i used before i put my ph3s in my vts http://www.lioliosracing.gr/pdf/Newman/Citroen.htm
  834. #834
    The PH10's look tasty !!!
  835. #835
    ha ha ph3 not bad mate they pull hard he he
  836. #836
    I don't want to sound stupid, but does it pull a lot harder than standard ?! Is the power more up the revs ??
  837. #837
    I mean that, obviously there's more bhp, but what about torque ??
  838. #838
    will some one give them a ring and tell them to start sending the cams out to those that have paid already.

    i would fellas but i am away working atm
  839. #839
    I gave them a ring today and after them finally getting back to me i was told they will be sent out the end of NEXT WEEK! Not good at all
    And i also couldnt get my money back either
  840. #840
    Sounds like pretty bad customer service to be honest. Did they say they were waiting for more people to join in on the group buy ?? So the waiting has just been because of something their end? Surely can't take that long to produce !?

    How come about the refund !? Sounds like the numbers are very tight to get the cam n follower price as it is now, so they don't want people pulling out.
  841. #841
    Ive had enough of waiting and need the money! But i said i will just have to sell them on as soon as i get them. Funny thing was he said they are being packaged up ready for sending etc when i asked about the refund, then i asked about delivery dates and he goes and tells me another week
  842. #842
    lol, almost sounds as if something funny is going on there, but will just have to wait to get them, just hope the wait is worth it.

    I just hope the cams they send and followers are accurate and of good quality, and they havn't just rushed them through - I think they should good quality as they'll just get htme back if they aren't!!

    I read on one of the posts on ssc that newmans sent him some cam followers that were slightly too big, he had to send them back, and it took newmans 4 weeks to get the corrected sized ones back to him,lol. I'm going to put mine in a spare 16v head I've got to check their size.

    Yeh, you should have no problem selling them, put them on ebay and you'll probably make a profit on them !!
  843. #843
    there taking the piss, my engine is out and apart and they are all im waiting on! Have deadlines as ive got stuff i want to be doing in my car in april.
  844. #844
    imo i think people who are VERY eager to get hold of there cam/s should phone Newmans to confirm a delivery date for there cam/s, the prevous groupbuy here went off without a hitch, however this groupbuy has higher numbers....

    ManC
  845. #845
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by manc View Post
    imo i think people who are VERY eager to get hold of there cam/s should phone Newmans to confirm a delilvery date for there cam/s, the prevous groupbuy here went off without a hitch, however this groupbuy has numbers....

    ManC
    i am one of the eager ppl but i dont really class myself as being eager, its been quite a wait. what makes it worse is that they give false deadlines. if i was told the actual deadline when ordering im sure there wouldnt be any problems.

    suppose it doesnt help with the guy organising the whole thing pulling out and losing interest in following the group buy through
  846. #846
    Quote:
    suppose it doesnt help with the guy organising the whole thing pulling out and losing interest in following the group buy through
    news to me!

    Personally I have loads to do to my VTS so the wait in bareable but that fact I have already parted with my hard earned with nothing to show for it is a little miff'n!

    ManC
  847. #847
    this looks like its getting hard work guys
  848. #848
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by davevts View Post
    i am one of the eager ppl but i dont really class myself as being eager, its been quite a wait. what makes it worse is that they give false deadlines. if i was told the actual deadline when ordering im sure there wouldnt be any problems.

    suppose it doesnt help with the guy organising the whole thing pulling out and losing interest in following the group buy through
    tbh, there isn't much i can do, that anyone else can't.
    all i can do is phone newmans or email them, and ask when the cams are coming, but as some have done this, seems pointless for me to do it a day later and but have been to busy with work at the moment, been at work 8-7 everyday for 2-3 weeks at the moment.

    i'll phone them on monday morning and get the latest update and info for you, see what's going on.
  849. #849
    any updates ??
  850. #850
    o dear no body got any yet just looked back at first page this started on nov 12 thats close to 4 months ago thats epic but a good price
  851. #851
    im a fairly patient person but this has jus pissed me off to be honest, cheques bouncing didnt help matters either. lets just hope once fitted they are worth the long wait
  852. #852
    I have my dastek for sale now guys

    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...29#post1932829
  853. #853
    i have ph3 in my vts as sum of u know im sure u will be happy with them
  854. #854
    Mine arrived this morning......
  855. #855
    ooooooooooooo, that means mine should have be at home waiting for me then !!!!

    Just need RCD Performance to get going on the group buy for their PnP system the ncan get the cams in and mapped up !!!!
  856. #856
    Mine have arrived also, can someone please confirm the part number they have purchased, mine says CITVTS264/400 on both the boxes? want to ensure they are the PH3's...

    Thx.
  857. #857
    ^ ^ they are the number for the PH3's
  858. #858
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by manc View Post
    Mine have arrived also, can someone please confirm the part number they have purchased, mine says CITVTS264/400 on both the boxes? want to ensure they are the PH3's...

    Thx.
    Same on mine aswell mate. Were CITVTS/280/430 but thats been crossed out on mine with 264/400. And mine are PH3's aswell.

    So glad they've came!
  859. #859
    cool, i shit a brick when i saw the invoice say CITVTS/280/430 Sprint/Tarmac Rally PH4, then some crossed it out and put 264/400 which is correct.. very confusing, may phone them and confirm everything is ok as anything higher than ph3 will bounce off pistons and do loads of damage!

    ManC
  860. #860
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dannyhall View Post
    Same on mine aswell mate. Were CITVTS/280/430 but thats been crossed out on mine with 264/400. And mine are PH3's aswell.

    So glad they've came!
    Oooh your pretty local to me, who's fitting your set?

    btw did anyone get any cam lube?

    ManC
  861. #861
    no cam lube !? Suppose will have to get some of this :

    http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/produc...&pcode=PIPLUBE
  862. #862
    Cams lubes as cheap as chips If you pay to have your cam's fitted they should provide it for you

    Glad that people are finally getting them!

    Ross
    RCD.
  863. #863
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RCD-Performance View Post
    Cams lubes as cheap as chips If you pay to have your cam's fitted they should provide it for you

    Glad that people are finally getting them!

    Ross
    RCD.
    Hope you've got some lube in stock then ready for the influx of Saxo owners for your PnP system + PH3 cams
  864. #864
    You may be amazed to hear, i have not actually got any yet!

    Oops. lol!

    Ross
  865. #865
    Ill have to go see if mine have arrived!!

    Whats the cam lube all about? Can you not just fit them using engine oil where they run? Or is this thicker to make sure it stays in place until you start it.
  866. #866
    You need to coat the lobes in the lube, so that they 'wear in' properly when you first start the engine - google: 'running cam in' or something and read about it - it's pretty important so I wouldn't install them or run you engine with them in until you've read about running them in properly.
  867. #867
    okie dokie was expecting the cams to come with instructions, did yours not? Mine dont seem to have arrived how are they delivered? By a corrier you have to sign for or royal mail?
  868. #868
    I don't know, I'm not home until next Friday. I presume it would have ben with a courier?
  869. #869
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RCD-Performance View Post
    Cams lubes as cheap as chips If you pay to have your cam's fitted they should provide it for you

    Glad that people are finally getting them!

    Ross
    RCD.
    Hi,

    Will RCD look to do a groupbuy on the MS PnP ecu? or is it still in the late development stages??

    ManC
  870. #870
    Yes a group buy the RCD Plug'n'Play ECU will be up shortly, we should be receiving the first batch very soon!

    Ross
    RCD.
  871. #871
    ive got mine this morning. wahhhheeyyyyyyyy
  872. #872
    ha ha at last good luck guys
  873. #873
    glad to hear these are starting to arrive now.
  874. #874
    Glad to hear im not the only one to have not recieved them today
  875. #875
    I've spoken to my parents and mine havn't come yet - should be tomorrow or Friday.
  876. #876
    mine havnt turned up yet either
  877. #877
    mines cam yesterday aswell
  878. #878
    If anyone gets some and doesn't want/need them anymore - let me know as I'm looking for cams for a mk2 VTR
  879. #879
    if any for sale then can you please let me no asap, i was supposed to be in group buy but i had some things fuck up but i have money now but would rather have followers aswell but please pm even if they havent come but selling when they do
  880. #880
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scottish_Gaz View Post
    if any for sale then can you please let me no asap, i was supposed to be in group buy but i had some things fuck up but i have money now but would rather have followers aswell but please pm even if they havent come but selling when they do
    Mine will be for sale with followers mate
  881. #881
    DP-Engineering in The Netherlands created a Plug-and-Play standalone ECU for Saxo VTS. This standalone is a PnP version of VEMS. I have just ordered one for myself.
    I asked them about the possibility of a group buy. If there are at least 6 people interested, I can arrange Plug-and-Play standalones at 490GBP / each, already mapped for Newman ph3s. I would have my unit mapped on rolling road, copy the map to the other units and send them to you.
    That way you would just disconnect your stock ECU, plug in the VEMS ECU and 2 minutes later you got a standalone mapped for your ph3 cams.
    Let me know if you're interested. I already orderd the first unit at full price anyway. If I order some more, they will apply the discount to my unit too, so I would be glad ;-)

    More info:

    http://www.dp-engineering.nl/EN/prod...vemspnp106.php

    http://www.vems.hu
  882. #882
    Would you get the unit, map it for your PH3's? Then copy it across to the other units?

    If you were to put up pictures, and maybs some results from your 'mapping'/rolling road then people might be interested.

    RCD Preformance are doing a PnP ECU for around £600 mapped and installed.

    And you can do it for £480? How about wideband ?Price on that ?
  883. #883
    I've just looked at the website, and it's hardly clear - it looks like it'll be much more expensive than £490 when you add in a few things like knock sensor, then wideband, then you'll surely need to get it mapped ?!

    Just seems too good to be true to be honest, plus there can't be many places in the UK that can map it ?
  884. #884
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    Would you get the unit, map it for your PH3's? Then copy it across to the other units?
    Exactly.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    If you were to put up pictures, and maybs some results from your 'mapping'/rolling road then people might be interested.

    RCD Preformance are doing a PnP ECU for around £600 mapped and installed.

    And you can do it for £480? How about wideband ?Price on that ?
    You don't need a wideband if you don't plan mapping the unit on your own. Any good tuner has a wideband of his own. You might consider buying the just the wideband module for the ECU, tho. It would cost 29GBP extra (If whe get the group buy discount) Personally I am buying that extra module and the Bosch 7057 wideband as well, because I plan to check my AFR periodicaly
    You should never install a wideband sond permanently. It wears out in about 10 hours.

    Price would be £480 + VAT if there is at least 6 people interested. If there is less people I can still get some good price, but not THAT good. I would send the units premapped for ph3's.

    Any tuner that is familiar with the very popular "MegaTune" program will map the ECU if you need it tailored in the future

    For now I am still waiting for both the ECU and cams. I will install them and map ASAP and let you know about the results. This shouldn't take more than 2 weeks
  885. #885
    You don't need to buy any extra stuff like better mapsensors or EGT/knock if you don't plan turbo/supercharging your engine. The unit will work with your stock sensors if you stay atmo.
  886. #886
    This movie shows how "difficult" it is to install a mapped VEMS ECU


    http://youtube.com/watch?v=nH385ydzdfg
  887. #887
    These plug and play ecu's are all well and good but then theres the price of setting the cam timing on top of that?

    Im planning on getting my standard ecu remapped at chipwizzards because then they will also adjust the timing on the cams to get the most out of them. When the fu**ers finally arive that is!!
  888. #888
    Has anyone got the contact number for newmans i want to se where my cams have got to!!
  889. #889
    hear u go mate 01689 857109
  890. #890
    so many people jumping on the band wagon with plug an play if u was to go down the plug an play road u would be best to find as much info an results an proof that u are getting what u pay for yes wayne at chipwizzard will charge u 450 quid to program ur standard ecu an every body says thats wasted money as if u change or fit throttle bodys it will need doing again this is true but most people will never fit throttle bodys or go any further with the engine than the normal stuff an then cams so be carefull what u spend ur money on thats it rant over ha ha
  891. #891
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by andywiddss1 View Post
    so many people jumping on the band wagon with plug an play if u was to go down the plug an play road u would be best to find as much info an results an proof that u are getting what u pay for yes wayne at chipwizzard will charge u 450 quid to program ur standard ecu an every body says thats wasted money as if u change or fit throttle bodys it will need doing again this is true but most people will never fit throttle bodys or go any further with the engine than the normal stuff an then cams so be carefull what u spend ur money on thats it rant over ha ha
    My reasoning is if I was to get my standard ECU remapped, what happens if I want to go back to standard?

    It's just when I come to sell my Saxo, I plan on putting it back to standard (pretty much) and sell the car and the mods, as I'll get more money selling it standard and selling the mods seperate.

    So i was to get it remapped, then when I put it back to standard (standard exhaust and cams) I'm going to have to get another unlocked vts ECU (£100+).

    Whereas if I was to go with a PnP standalone, then when I want to go back to standard, I can sell everything, and just put it all back to standard (cams) plus if I was to go further, turbo/ s/charger/ tb's then I can, and all I'd need to do would be to get it PnP remapped, which isn't too costly.

    Plus with the groupbuy on cams, then PnP standalone, it comes to just under £1k (depending on wideband or not) which if I was to pay rrp prices, then it'd be close to £1k for cams, followers, then wayne to remap my standard ECU, so in reality I think going with groupbuy cams n followers, then potentially groupbuy PnP then it's a fairly economical route and potentially cheaper than going for the rro route (plus can sell the Pnp once look to sell the saxo)

    This is just my logic with the process and what I plan to do depending on how my circumstances change, but I can see your point about getting it remapped; you can go, get it remapped, cams timed up and just enjoy it for cheaper than PnP (£450 vs £600+)
  892. #892
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by menmen View Post
    Exactly.



    You don't need a wideband if you don't plan mapping the unit on your own. Any good tuner has a wideband of his own. You might consider buying the just the wideband module for the ECU, tho. It would cost 29GBP extra (If whe get the group buy discount) Personally I am buying that extra module and the Bosch 7057 wideband as well, because I plan to check my AFR periodicaly
    You should never install a wideband sond permanently. It wears out in about 10 hours.

    Price would be £480 + VAT if there is at least 6 people interested. If there is less people I can still get some good price, but not THAT good. I would send the units premapped for ph3's.

    Any tuner that is familiar with the very popular "MegaTune" program will map the ECU if you need it tailored in the future

    For now I am still waiting for both the ECU and cams. I will install them and map ASAP and let you know about the results. This shouldn't take more than 2 weeks

    Surely that can't be true regarding the Wideband lasting 10 hours !?!?
  893. #893
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    Surely that can't be true regarding the Wideband lasting 10 hours !?!?
    its not

    We've been running our wideband for over 50 hours and its still as good as the minute it was put it
  894. #894
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    My reasoning is if I was to get my standard ECU remapped, what happens if I want to go back to standard?

    It's just when I come to sell my Saxo, I plan on putting it back to standard (pretty much) and sell the car and the mods, as I'll get more money selling it standard and selling the mods seperate.

    So i was to get it remapped, then when I put it back to standard (standard exhaust and cams) I'm going to have to get another unlocked vts ECU (£100+).

    Whereas if I was to go with a PnP standalone, then when I want to go back to standard, I can sell everything, and just put it all back to standard (cams) plus if I was to go further, turbo/ s/charger/ tb's then I can, and all I'd need to do would be to get it PnP remapped, which isn't too costly.

    Plus with the groupbuy on cams, then PnP standalone, it comes to just under £1k (depending on wideband or not) which if I was to pay rrp prices, then it'd be close to £1k for cams, followers, then wayne to remap my standard ECU, so in reality I think going with groupbuy cams n followers, then potentially groupbuy PnP then it's a fairly economical route and potentially cheaper than going for the rro route (plus can sell the Pnp once look to sell the saxo)

    This is just my logic with the process and what I plan to do depending on how my circumstances change, but I can see your point about getting it remapped; you can go, get it remapped, cams timed up and just enjoy it for cheaper than PnP (£450 vs £600+)
    Have some love for that mate, is a good logical explanation.

    We re-map our PnP ECU's for free, we have done this to make our ECU yet more inviting to those planning to do there mods in stages.

    I can see the attraction of the standard ECU remap, but i now think, after the development of our ECU, thats its not as cost effective as it once was.

    Again, good post fella

    Ross
    RCD.

    EDIT: can't love you at the moment sorry lol
  895. #895
    mine arrived today
    whats the timescale for a 3 plug pnp ecu?
  896. #896
    impressed by the workmanship of the cams and even more so by the packaging lol
  897. #897
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hecky View Post
    mine arrived today
    whats the timescale for a 3 plug pnp ecu?
    We don't know exact time of yet, we're doing our best but we can't pin point it, as a rough guess, about a month.

    Ross
    RCD.
  898. #898
    Can you laso fit and change the timing. How much would you charge for this?
  899. #899
    One hours labour, plus the cost of a new cam belt So £40 + £cam belt.
  900. #900
    everyone got theirs?
  901. #901
    I presume I've got mine, will check with home later on today.
  902. #902
    Just phoned home and looks like mine havn't come yet, presume will be Monday/Tuesday.
  903. #903
    No sign of mine still
  904. #904
    If some have arrived, ours should be in transit !! Probably because we're in the south !!
  905. #905
    Yea quite likely that.

    Whos ordered some cam lube then? And where from? Also can you link me to a guide to running them in please.

    Dan vts didnt realise you were so local, never seen you about. I go up to laker road every now and then.
  906. #906
    That cam lube off demon tweeks comes to like £15 with delivery n vat!! surley it doesnt do anything covering them in oil wont.
  907. #907
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by motobruce View Post
    Yea quite likely that.

    Whos ordered some cam lube then? And where from? Also can you link me to a guide to running them in please.

    Dan vts didnt realise you were so local, never seen you about. I go up to laker road every now and then.
    I got banned from laker road mate Didnt like it up there anyway.
  908. #908
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DAN-VTS View Post
    No sign of mine still
    Yours come yet? speaking to parents mine hav't come yet either !!
  909. #909
    No and im getting seriously pissed off now!
    Im giving it till wednesday then im phoning them to see whats going on and if i get a poor excuse i will get my money back
  910. #910
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DAN-VTS View Post
    No and im getting seriously pissed off now!
    Im giving it till wednesday then im phoning them to see whats going on and if i get a poor excuse i will get my money back
    They should be here by wenesday, I would think, especially if people have already received them !!

    I just hope they havn't sent them out in batches, as my payment was quick and without any problems - only time will tell !!
  911. #911
    My payment was also one of the first sent and i havnt yet received them!!!
    Im probley also the only person whos engine is apart with everything done ready to go just waiting for these cams!!!
  912. #912
    seems like the people near the south coast havnt got theirs yet !!
  913. #913
    im on the middle east coast and i havn't got mine and same as motorbruce i paid 3rd i think and not got them
  914. #914
    Dont get your hopes up yet lads.....

    Just rang them as im pretty fed up now and the first bunch were made from the blanks they had on the shelf (12 roughly) and they then had to order 20 more blanks as they didnt want to stock too many at a time becuse of all the people that pulled out. They should receive the new blanks today and they will be made over the next few days so we will receive them next week, so im expecting mine the week after!!

    There will also be another few sets available if anyone else in interested but will have to let them know within the next few days.

    The cheque that bounced was PSaunders, has this been sorted now?
  915. #915
    Oh and also i said do they come with cam lube and he said he will chuck some in so im afraid thats the only good bit of news!
  916. #916
    lol, looks like a slightly longer wait then !! lol, o well, suppose there's nothing much we can really do !!

    In defence to Newmans, they've done it in a pretty logical way, to reduce their risk of having a load of vts blanks on the shelf !!

    PLUS, good thing about the cam lube !! Is good they'll include it so won;t have to buy any from D.Tweeks !!
  917. #917
    now i know whats happened i agree with what theyve done and complain, we just needed some logical intelligence lol eg some one ring up and gett he info and post it here....well done brucy thanks you i don't feel quite so bad now i know why weve had such a long wait
  918. #918
    I've got my cams this morning !!! They have been packaged amazingly ! lol.

    Randomly, 4 followers came in little pots, then the other 12 were just wrapped in greasy paper.

    Just need to decide when to fit them, still saving for standalone !!
  919. #919
    Mine just arrived also

    All mine were in pots. No cam lube tho lying fucker.
  920. #920
    Yeh, I didn't get any lube
  921. #921
    mine also came, also very well packages, all my followers were in grease pots and the cams are in grease paper and buble wrap oiled to fuck. well pleased.

    arranging a date for mine to be fitted and mapped today.
  922. #922
    any of u guys got these in an running yet
  923. #923
    Got mine today! They are for sale
  924. #924
    for sale eh?
  925. #925
    Yes mate! want to buy them? need them gone as soon as possible really as i need the money to buy other things

    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=136192
  926. #926
    got mine yesterday to! if anyone knows a good place to have them setup and fitted in the north london area drop me a pm!! cheers
  927. #927
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by andywiddss1 View Post
    any of u guys got these in an running yet
    very soon my friend
  928. #928
    get them in mate ha ha im hopping to run 1/4 on monday at york first run with them in an s1 gearbox so hopping for gud time looking at weather mate i may need snow tyres
  929. #929
    Put mine in yesterday just need to get the engine back in to the car. Would have it running this weekend but due to having to work tommorow i wont have time as still need to rewrap the wiring loom and do a couple of other small bits.
  930. #930
    Mine are in and its running! Doesnt run to bad when cold bit lumpy, once its hot it doesnt idle at all tho.

    They are half run in but my crank seal started leaking think i pushed it in too far so need to replace them then see how it goes.
  931. #931
    what you mean it doesnt idle atall when hot?

    Ive hot a head here with newmans cams to be fitted next week so bit excited to hear reviews from guys that have just fitted them, even without a remap
  932. #932
    I'm selling my CAMS + FOLLOWERS - if anyone wants them check out the for sale section !!
  933. #933
    yes i seen the listing, cant beleive your selling them after all the trouble you went to, to get them!! Out of all the buyers, you seemed the most excited to get them in and running, now your selling whole lot??
  934. #934
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scottish_Gaz View Post
    yes i seen the listing, cant beleive your selling them after all the trouble you went to, to get them!! Out of all the buyers, you seemed the most excited to get them in and running, now your selling whole lot??
    Yeh, I sat down and looked at how much I'd spent on the car, and how much I'd want to spend on it to get it where I'd like it (engine + suspension mods) and I just been looking at prices of cars like Focus RS's, Evo's etc. and I just can't justify spending it that much on a Saxo - so I'm selling up a lot of my modifying bits.

    It's making me skint whilst being at Uni, plus starting my professional accounting exams so just need to knuckle down. It won't do me any good researching about throttle bodies, standalone, suspension packages etc. for hours on end, lol.

    I do love the Saxo, but in later life I can build a mental car if I want - who knows. I'm just going to run the saxo as an everyday car for a few years.
  935. #935
    oh right i see, i know the feeling as ive thought the same, all this money into a car that i may grow out off
  936. #936
    Yeh, I've just decided that it's all come at the wrong time + would rather save money with the way the economy is going (I know it sounds anal, lol)

    Still love giving the 16v Saxo some stick though
  937. #937
    Well when i first started the car to allow oil pressure to build up it idled then i had the revs held at 3000rpm for 10 minutes to run the cams in. Soon as someone spotted the oil leak i let off the throttle and the revs dropped right down and cut out instantly. Only done it the once as its back to pieces now so tps+icv might need time to adjust within there parameters as they was both removed to get the throttle body ported and polished.
  938. #938
    oh right, have you driven with the polished tb yet? was it spencer on here that done it?

    when you get the car running again, let me know please how it runs as im having mine fitted not next week but week after
  939. #939
    Havnt driven it yet no. Tbh i wont be able to tell if the tb has inproved the drive anyway as ive fitted that at the same time as a 4-2-1 manifold and cams. Or do you mean to tell if it drives propperly? Should have it sorted towards the end of the week.
  940. #940
    how do these compare to the cat cams 708s?
  941. #941
    I beleive they will be pretty much similar, and the differences will be in how they are set up and mapped.

    The Newmans PH3's have slightly more duration.

    You'd be looking at around the 155-160bhp mark with good breathing mods, and mapped/set up good.
  942. #942
    Drove the car yesterday isnt cutting out when hot now guess the tps has sorted its parameters out now.

    Have booked a remap with chipwizzards for next monday am just worried about it going tits up a couple of months down the line as ive read about a few people ecu's wiping out the map and not running!

    Have a look at my other thread about emissions. Cheers lads.

    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=139264
  943. #943
    Have got a vid of it now will upload it soon as you tube finishes processing it.
  944. #944
    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...88#post2031888
  945. #945
    im guessing its far to late to join in on this group buy ?
  946. #946
    I would say so as everyone has taken delivery of their cams now
  947. #947
    bah
  948. #948
    Theres a possibility i might be selling mine. Covered about 150miles all run in correctly with kent cams cam lube and driven at low rpm for first 100 miles.

    Just worked my finances and can barley afford to repay my insurance now
  949. #949
    cool, let me know if and when
  950. #950
    you have pm tim
  951. #951
    Just installed the ph3 cams together with VEMS PnP standalone ECU.
    Car idles sweet (@1000 rpm) - you wouldn't tell it's cammed.
    I only mapped it rougly on the street to ensure the AFRs are healthy.
    Car is very streetable, no problems at all.
    Unfortunately, no time to dyno it until mid-next week.
  952. #952
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by menmen View Post
    Just installed the ph3 cams together with VEMS PnP standalone ECU.
    Car idles sweet (@1000 rpm) - you wouldn't tell it's cammed.
    I only mapped it rougly on the street to ensure the AFRs are healthy.
    Car is very streetable, no problems at all.
    Unfortunately, no time to dyno it until mid-next week.
    How much was the Vems PnP ? It seem good? You just plugged it into the engine loom and away you went?

    Sounds good !!

    It feel a lot faster ?!
  953. #953
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    It feel a lot faster ?!
    Thing is, it doesn't :-( You can feel it's more revvy, but there is no big "Wow!". Let's see what the dyno says, and try some fine-tuning. So far I only gave it a stick 3 or 4 times to tune the AFRs.
  954. #954
    Raunchz,
    I just raced against my friend's stock Corolla T-Sport (190hp stock)
    Before cams, the Corolla would kill me when I shifted to 4th.
    My Saxo outruns the T-Sport slightly in every gear now. So thats how it goes before alignment and fine-mapping.

    Cheers
  955. #955
    dam t would have loved a set of these for my gti
  956. #956
    For those who missed the last group buy. I am willing to organise a new group buy. Please email me name address and contact number all call us direct.
    Price will be the same as the last group buy.

    Ken Newman

    Newman Cams 01689 857109.
  957. #957
    thats a good offer mate im running these cams all ready an would recomened them in fact i was that happy with mine i rang u an told u ha ha
  958. #958
    Camman, cheaper vts 16v followers? will this be possible...

    Thx,
    ManC
  959. #959
    just ring ken at newmans alot easier an u will get a price over the phone mate
  960. #960
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CamMan View Post
    For those who missed the last group buy. I am willing to organise a new group buy. Please email me name address and contact number all call us direct.
    Price will be the same as the last group buy.

    Ken Newman

    Newman Cams 01689 857109.
    How many people need to be on this group buy for you to do this again or would you do it for single ones ie if I wanted some and how long are you running this generous for???

    Thanks
  961. #961
    Minimum off 5 pairs of cams.
  962. #962
    id be interested but what are followers, please will someone explain, and are they needed, cheers
  963. #963
    I 'd be interested too!
  964. #964
    I could be up for this
  965. #965
    Craig - The cam followers are just standard replacements for the existing hydraulic followers that you already have. Replacement would depend on the condition of the existing ones. My engines done less than 60k with FSH and i wont be replacing mine, but if you can afford it then its best to do it while the heads off.
  966. #966
    Well, I see there are 2-3 of us who are interested in a new group buy....Sweet!
  967. #967
    I would be interested in cam for silvertop vtr
  968. #968
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by notts106gti View Post
    Craig - The cam followers are just standard replacements for the existing hydraulic followers that you already have. Replacement would depend on the condition of the existing ones. My engines done less than 60k with FSH and i wont be replacing mine, but if you can afford it then its best to do it while the heads off.
    thanx for explaining mate, i understand now. rep given
  969. #969
    could be interested in a black top 8v cam, will research on it against a cat cam
  970. #970
    any chance off two off us getting in on this?
  971. #971
    has this finished?
  972. #972
    if any body needs the phone no for newmans they are very easy people to deal with i have the no
  973. #973
    andy how much you pay for yours?
  974. #974
    250 quid mate
  975. #975
    deliverd?
  976. #976
    id be up for this,
  977. #977
    might have to get another list going ino carlos45 wants some two so thats me and him for definate
  978. #978
    i want some as well
  979. #979
    May as well start a list to get the ball rolling to see if another one can go a head!

    1 - Cat - 8v ph3
  980. #980
    Just to let you lot know ive got my cams up for sale.

    Covered about 500 miles am asking £350 delivered for 16v ph3 cams, 16 followers, a new gates cambelt and some camlube.
  981. #981
    I was wondering...why are you selling these cams?
    Don't they give good results or something?
    I thought the Newman cams are simulair to the 708's (150/160hp)
  982. #982
    Because my piston rings are worn and i need the money to rebuild or replace my engine.
  983. #983
    phoned newmans today and asked for prices on vtr cam and if we can get 5 people in it's 157 delivered.

    So far me and a mate are interested, any of you guys want in on the action?
  984. #984
    anyone want to be at the group buy for newman cams?

    see the link below
    http://www.106rallyeforum.com/forum2...ad.php?t=54026

    There for 8v and 16v
    hurry!!!
  985. #985
    16v Cams:

    1)Geordie (106 OC) - PH4
    2)saxakias (RR) - PH4
    3)Goodsum(106 OC) - PH3
    4)Pug106jb(106 OC) - PH3
    5) jimmyp (RR) - PH3
  986. #986
    16v Cams:

    1)Geordie (106 OC) - PH4
    2)saxakias (RR) - PH4
    3) jimmyp (RR) - PH3[/QUOTE]
  987. #987
    2 more people need to get 10!!


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jimmyp View Post
    right guys, called newmans up, and for 5 sets of 16v cams, it will be 235 plus VAT, or for 10 sets 190 plus VAT, so im rallying the troops and holding off for 10 sets, as the price quoted before (£225) was without pstage and without VAT for 5 sets.

    so for 10 sets would be around £230 ish if i work it out right, final prices when i get 10 people comfirmed.... so NEED 3 MORE PEOPLE PLEASE!! ask your friends and their friends, lol


    jimmy
  988. #988
    al be interested whats the final price cant be assed to read.
  989. #989
    Ill have a set if the price is £225 or less!!.

    Ill PM jeeves.
  990. #990
    i'm up for this as above what is final price? Money waiting...