next step?

1. GroomGTI Established Member Joined: Oct 2007 Yorkshire. Posts: 1748 White 106 Gti

   #1 12th November 2007, 22:03

   just wondering what i could add next to my vtr to gain more bhp without the turbo or supercharge. So far i have a stright through exhuast 4 branch manifold, induction kit and cams.
   Any ideas would be great..
2. Roper Established Member Joined: Feb 2006 Derbyshire Posts: 1815 Black 106 GTi Turbo

   #2 12th November 2007, 22:05

   re-map ?? or tb's ?
3. Coonper Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2007 Coventry Posts: 5182 Lupo GTI

   #3 12th November 2007, 22:06

   A remap if you have not already done so... Then you will really reap the benefits of your current mods.
4. GroomGTI Established Member Joined: Oct 2007 Yorkshire. Posts: 1748 White 106 Gti

   #4 12th November 2007, 22:07

   i have thought of that but also thought if i get a remap and then add more to the engine it will need to be remapped again
5. Bake Established Member Joined: Feb 2006 St Austell, United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1691 Ibiza Cupra

   #5 12th November 2007, 22:08

   Have you thought about throttle bodies?
6. GroomGTI Established Member Joined: Oct 2007 Yorkshire. Posts: 1748 White 106 Gti

   #6 12th November 2007, 22:12

   not though off anything yet just wanted some ideas
7. CS_Sean L-plater Joined: Oct 2007 Bristol Posts: 86 Saxo x Mrk 1

   #7 13th November 2007, 19:10

   Strip out the car so there is no weight..part from tht u cnt do alot more...nt 2 ad a dramactic effect ne ways !
8. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #8 13th November 2007, 19:19

   has to be throttle bodies... 'elps you breath more easily
9. jeeves_101 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2007 Weston-S-Mare Posts: 3713 Racing Bronze Mazda MX-5

   #9 13th November 2007, 20:23

   bodies and full car stripage ftw!
10. SaxoJamie Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 Sussex Posts: 3891 2x 106 GTi

    #10 13th November 2007, 20:39

    Strip it, loose all the headlining, rear seats, spare wheel, 6 x 9's etc
11. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

    #11 13th November 2007, 21:02

    Agree with above mate, either bodies or change the cams for something a bit
    more spicy? But then thers all the internals that need to be changed.
    
    Quite a few Turbo VTR/VTSs flying about at the moment.
12. GroomGTI Established Member Joined: Oct 2007 Yorkshire. Posts: 1748 White 106 Gti

    #12 13th November 2007, 22:17

    the car is stripped from the fronts two seats back
13. SaxoKez Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2007 Scunthorpe (North Lincolnshire) Posts: 3325 White Subaru WRX Black Saxo VTS

    #13 13th November 2007, 23:04

    re map it, new throttle bodies, loose as much weight as poss
14. kev999_VTR Established Member Joined: May 2007 Dorset Posts: 1467 RB Renaultsport clio 182

    #14 13th November 2007, 23:18

    get a vts engine swap lol.
15. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #15 14th November 2007, 00:05

    Stroker kit with large bore pistons to take the engine to 1850cc. Big valve down drafted head. Independent throttle bodies. Up rated valve springs and light weight cap. Shimmed solid rockers. Stand alone engine management. Very wild cam with bronzed locating bush. Big bore BTB exhaust and manifold. Better cooling. Big volume sump. Close ratio gearbox. LSD. Or if your feeling flush get a C2 R2 sequential box.
16. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

    #16 14th November 2007, 00:12

    Didnt think the capacity could be increased any futher on these engines? That
    would be something though if possible!
17. L8R_VTR Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 786

    #17 14th November 2007, 00:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AXracing Stroker kit with large bore pistons to take the engine to 1850cc. Big valve down drafted head. Independent throttle bodies. Up rated valve springs and light weight cap. Shimmed solid rockers. Stand alone engine management. Very wild cam with bronzed locating bush. Big bore BTB exhaust and manifold. Better cooling. Big volume sump. Close ratio gearbox. LSD. Or if your feeling flush get a C2 R2 sequential box.

    LOl!! ne bova mate this lad knows what he is talking about now tht give you something to think about lol!!! top reply bud loving it!!
18. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #18 14th November 2007, 00:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rushy_23 Didnt think the capacity could be increased any futher on these engines? That would be something though if possible!

    You can only have relatively small over bores but there is plenty of room for a longer stroke crank. 1850cc is generally considered the biggest you can go. Though really thats pushing the bore to its limits. You can go longer on the stroke though but then you have to remove the oil spray bars. This is not the end of the world but if your doing other tuning as well your best to retain them. Most people don’t bother though as your talking over £1000 for a custom crank and then you have to sort specific pistons and rods. So for not much more you could just boost the engine and the boosted engine will give you more hp per £.
19. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

    #19 14th November 2007, 09:56

    Thats the thing though, you go so far, where does it ever end lol.
20. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #20 14th November 2007, 18:57

    VTS engine or save ya money for some TBs id say
    
    or even just save for an evo