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1. Michael_VTS L-plater Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 57 Citroen Saxo VTS

   #1 28th November 2007, 17:23

   Hey Anyone,
   
   Can You Please Remove My Profile As I No Longer Need It As The Saxo Has Been Sold.
   
   I've Deleted All My Treads That I Have Posted, So Everything Below Is Now Void. (Sorry)
   
   Thanx
2. lukesaxokid Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2007 dorset Posts: 363 sexo vts

   #2 28th November 2007, 17:31

   sounds good mate, you leaving breaks standard on the rear? when do you get it back?
3. Michael_VTS L-plater Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 57 Citroen Saxo VTS

   #3 28th November 2007, 17:34

   yeh i had the rear discs and pads done
4. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

   #4 28th November 2007, 17:38

   Didnt they rolling road it after all that work was done?
5. pug205gti87 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Birmingham, West Midlands Posts: 704 Saxo Vts

   #5 28th November 2007, 18:00

   dunno how you can get 170bhp with that you would need some form of cams and throttle bodies
6. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

   #6 28th November 2007, 18:03

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Michael_VTS hey guys, first of all ... welcome back lol i found the paper work that i got from LAD Motorsport and thought i'd post the details of what they did to produce the 170bhp. the only thing i found out is the car is quicker than it was by a mile, but still dont think its hitting 170bhp. its as follows .... "strip down engine bay, remove cylinder head. modify to fast road spec to include machine cut inlet and exhaust ports. modify valve throats and seals. increase c/ratio. fit new valve springs and seals. fit new timing belt. fit cylinder head gasket. re-fit head back on to engine. fit camshaft and reset valve timing. bleed cooling system. fit new four branch manifold. remove front discs and fit new cross drilled ones with fast road pads. fit new rear brake pads and discs". tell me what you think. cheers

   So they havent fitted any form of cams, throttle boddies or ecu management? Might have 130-135 if your lucky....
7. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

   #7 28th November 2007, 18:06

   They don’t tell you much. Give them a call and ask what cam they have fitted. As they have fitted new valve springs it should be something wild. or is it the stock ones back? On the face of it sounds ok, just could do with a good map. But really I would have wanted to know exactly what was done and exactly what parts were fitted.
8. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

   #8 28th November 2007, 18:22

   as said did they justify changing the valve springs or just happened to change them
9. L8R_VTR Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 786

   #9 28th November 2007, 19:04

   Does sound good mate but £1200 alot of mullah bud and i cant see it making any more than 135-140 tops bud!! but if its faster than the standard and you are happy with that then there should not be a problem m8.
10. Jazz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 West Sussex Posts: 7566 CLS63 AMG

    #10 28th November 2007, 21:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by L8R_VTR Does sound good mate but £1200 alot of mullah bud and i cant see it making any more than 135-140 tops bud!! but if its faster than the standard and you are happy with that then there should not be a problem m8.

    Sounds like you would be pushing around 140bhp with that spec mate, which is good but get some cams in and you'd see it truly fire up with that spec. 170 very optmistic. Try to get a RR result and see what you think...
11. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #11 28th November 2007, 21:40

    seems to me llike another overinflated lad figure to me.
    
    the quality of the work may be fine, but i feel trading standards should take a step to stopping the 'real bhp' figures that they quote to lure in customers who are less clued up.
12. Jazz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 West Sussex Posts: 7566 CLS63 AMG

    #12 28th November 2007, 21:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan seems to me llike another overinflated lad figure to me. the quality of the work may be fine, but i feel trading standards should take a step to stopping the 'real bhp' figures that they quote to lure in customers who are less clued up.

    ...Completely agree tbh, they shouldn't be making such bold claims especially as they take no steps to prove it.
13. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #13 28th November 2007, 23:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jazz_360 .especially as they take no steps to prove it.

    
    they do, false RR graphs lol
14. ellwise69 Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 239 Mk1 Vtr

    #14 29th November 2007, 01:26

    get it on a rr to make sure mate.
15. AliC Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Bangor Posts: 818 Furio, 300+BHP EP82, zx6RR Ninja

    #15 29th November 2007, 10:17

    I reckon we all get on the fone to them lol and ask them what they are playing at!
16. Jazz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 West Sussex Posts: 7566 CLS63 AMG

    #16 29th November 2007, 11:54

    Independant rolling Road, in fact even 2 or 3 if you can shell out, put your mind at rest, compare all results and you'll know roughly what you're really pushing... if LAD use their own rolling road or one affiliated with their company you just know the results will be *ahem* ever so good
17. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #17 29th November 2007, 17:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ellwise69 get it on a rr to make sure mate.

    getting it on a RR doesnt make sure.
    
    A dyno is the way for a sure tests, RRs can easily be wrongly calibrated or the testers do the run in the wrong gears
18. vtr130 Established Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 2279

    #18 29th November 2007, 18:28

    LAD really need to be sorted out, over quoted figures are going to trick so many people that don't know the ins and outs of engine modifications!! Out of order really, maybe thats why we always get over quoted figures from people with 1.2 corsa's lol
19. vtr130 Established Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 2279

    #19 30th November 2007, 12:14

    I have been thinking do they promise to make your car 170bhp or offer to do it?? Because if you can prove your car isnt 170bhp and you have any form of contract with them. You would be able to sue them in court for the loss of a bargain, and then you would be able to recieve all the money it would cost to make your car 170bhp!!
    
    Thats if you got that annoyed with them for lying to you!
20. jonezy Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 Carnforth (lancaster) Posts: 1617 55 CTR premier '97 posi vts

    #20 30th November 2007, 12:16

    as said in the other post, there tranna blag my mate into a 200bhp deal for 2k
    
    wtf on standard injection
21. vtr130 Established Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 2279

    #21 30th November 2007, 12:18

    Get them to make a contract with him, take it to the citizens advice bureau and they would probably help you. And then you would have a leg to stand on if it didnt make 200bhp
22. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #22 30th November 2007, 12:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtr130 Get them to make a contract with him, take it to the citizens advice bureau and they would probably help you. And then you would have a leg to stand on if it didnt make 200bhp

    a company would easily get away with it just by wording the contract correctly
23. saunders Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2006 Kent Posts: 3669 Fiat Seicento, MK2 Furio 2000 X, Pug 206

    #23 30th November 2007, 12:20

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jonezy as said in the other post, there tranna blag my mate into a 200bhp deal for 2k wtf on standard injection

    Buy it then take the c**ts to court FTW
24. saunders Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2006 Kent Posts: 3669 Fiat Seicento, MK2 Furio 2000 X, Pug 206

    #24 30th November 2007, 12:21

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan a company would easily get away with it just by wording the contract correctly

    Well saying approx. 200bhp and giving the lad a car with 150 is way off, so im sure you would get somewhere
25. vtr130 Established Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 2279

    #25 30th November 2007, 12:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan a company would easily get away with it just by wording the contract correctly

    Depends who worded the contract then doesnt it But you never know they seem to think there actually making these figures!!??
26. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #26 30th November 2007, 12:24

    I think its awful that ppl like Pipercross put +10bhp to a Saxo VTS on their Viper airfilter.
27. vtr130 Established Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 2279

    #27 30th November 2007, 12:26

    It all pr though isnt it... Who would pay £200 or woteva pound the vipers are for 2-3bhp?
28. Quick Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 7064

    #28 30th November 2007, 12:27

    Quote:

    ENGINE and EXHAUST Power raised to approximately 160 bhp at the flywheel by extensive cylinder head modification, incorporating larger inlet and exhaust ports and revised camshaft timing. An exhaust manifold and system based on the rally Kit Car engine can be fitted to the 160 bhp kit; this produces another 10 bhp raising the power output to approximately 170 bhp.

    Off the LAD website - key word would be approximately!!
29. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #29 30th November 2007, 12:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtr130 It all pr though isnt it... Who would pay £200 or woteva pound the vipers are for 2-3bhp?

    exactly its mad.
    infact a 205 GTi 1.6 lost 1bhp with a Viper on a RR iirc from a magazine feature.
30. vtr130 Established Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 2279

    #30 30th November 2007, 12:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Quick Off the LAD website - key word would be approximately!!

    Yeh definately mate, i would get something in a contract from them befroe i ever went there!!
    
    Be like i think your 170bhp kits are better than my tb's!! Bollocks F*** off lol
31. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #31 30th November 2007, 12:36

    from what I've seen of their work it performs..
    
    dubious power claims though. Only certain way to check those is an engine dyno.
32. vtr130 Established Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 2279

    #32 30th November 2007, 12:41

    Only ever seen one of their cars and that was saxo daffys before the conversion... Il take your word on that though!
33. Sammy Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2004 Derby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 671 106 track beast

    #33 30th November 2007, 15:22

    santa pod a few years ago
    
    my VTS
    
    BMC
    Magnex cat back
    decat
    miltek 4-2-1 manifold
    
    beat one of those up the 1/4 by a considerable margin
    
    mine was stripped out but still i thought with an extra 30 bhp it would have me
34. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #34 30th November 2007, 15:26

    you made 140bhp with breathing mods? O.o
35. Sammy Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2004 Derby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 671 106 track beast

    #35 30th November 2007, 15:37

    i mean
    
    mine with roughly 130bhp
    
    that with apparently 160bhp
    
    i had him by 0.6 secs
36. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #36 30th November 2007, 15:38

    could put it down to him being a wang driver. or wang tires...
37. pug205gti87 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Birmingham, West Midlands Posts: 704 Saxo Vts

    #37 30th November 2007, 16:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Soulless could put it down to him being a wang driver. or wang tires...

    or it could just be sh*t slow