rear anti roll bar size

1. andywiddss1 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2007 skipton northyorks Posts: 5275 clio 172 exclusive track toy

   #1 30th November 2007, 13:35

   hi guys new to this hope sum of u can help me any body know what size the standard rear anti roll bar is on a vts mk1 i want to up grade to a bigger one also whats the biggest i car fit with out two much hassle ie bigger torsion bars an all that thanks
2. samcook Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 evesham, worcs United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3813 197 cup

   #2 30th November 2007, 13:44

   21mm i think mate
3. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

   #3 30th November 2007, 13:46

   The rear ARB off of a 106 GTI is a decent upgrade, as it's 24mm. I believe the VTS one is 22mm. Maybe 21mm? Not 100%... But the 106 GTI rear ARB is definately 24mm.
   
   EDIT: Torsion bars are very expensive to upgrade, as you cannot take them off a different car... But the upgraded ones will fit with no issues, as they are designed to do so...
4. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

   #4 30th November 2007, 13:55

   VT* model Saxo's have 22mm ARB..
5. andywiddss1 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2007 skipton northyorks Posts: 5275 clio 172 exclusive track toy

   #5 30th November 2007, 13:59

   thanks guys keep them coming ha ha
6. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

   #6 30th November 2007, 14:09

   What else do you need to know???
7. Quick Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 7064

   #7 30th November 2007, 14:16

   Why are you wanting to change the ARB?
   Whats your current setup?
8. andywiddss1 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2007 skipton northyorks Posts: 5275 clio 172 exclusive track toy

   #8 30th November 2007, 17:14

   iv got avo rear shocks eibach front spring an avo front inserts the front is all polybushed the backs lowered about 50mm an the front 30mm from what u lot have said i deffo need to fit a 24mm one off a gti will it make alot of difference to the way the car handles on the track
9. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #9 30th November 2007, 17:54

   you get 19mm and 22mm in vt* models.
   
   fitting stiffer t-bars needs matched springs on the front.
10. andywiddss1 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2007 skipton northyorks Posts: 5275 clio 172 exclusive track toy

    #10 30th November 2007, 18:00

    so what springs would i need for the front can u guys give me an idea of what set ups u running an how well they work i dont use the car much on the road just track days an a few quater mile sprints
11. andywiddss1 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2007 skipton northyorks Posts: 5275 clio 172 exclusive track toy

    #11 30th November 2007, 18:02

    oops miss read it thats if i fit stiffer t-bars sorry ha ha
12. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

    #12 1st December 2007, 00:08

    22mm on VTS as standard, just took mine out today (states 22mm on Citroen Parts programme too)
    
    Upgraded mine for the 24mm 106 one, fairly reasonably priced aswel compared to what i was expecting
13. RICKYP-RPM Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 ower ere Posts: 1282 shitroen spaxo vts

    #13 1st December 2007, 02:05

    i never knew the 106 one was bigger than the vts, ill be swapping one over tomorrow
14. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #14 1st December 2007, 09:40

    some vts have beenf found to have 19mm bars in.
15. andywiddss1 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2007 skipton northyorks Posts: 5275 clio 172 exclusive track toy

    #15 1st December 2007, 10:23

    thanks guys 19mm bloody hell thats a massive difference
16. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

    #16 1st December 2007, 11:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts some vts have beenf found to have 19mm bars in.

    Bit sketchy, Citroen cutting corners and chucking whatever bars are available into the car, rather than the proper spec ones perhaps?
17. pearson_vts Newbie Joined: Mar 2009 north shields Posts: 21 vts

    #17 6th May 2009, 22:17

    apparentley you can get a 25mm anti roll bar for a vts. not too sure tho...
18. col101 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 York Posts: 768 VTR

    #18 6th May 2009, 22:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Toad EDIT: Torsion bars are very expensive to upgrade, as you cannot take them off a different car... But the upgraded ones will fit with no issues, as they are designed to do so...

    Why's that, then?
    I took a damaged one out of my current axle and replaced it with one from my old axle(both gti)
    Is it gonna fall out or something?
19. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #19 6th May 2009, 23:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pearson_vts apparentley you can get a 25mm anti roll bar for a vts. not too sure tho...

    you can get custom ones to silly sizes
    no point really though
20. user_12490 Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 Newcastle upon tyne Posts: 1753 161.5 bhp VTS and cammed 2 tone vtr.

    #20 17th May 2009, 17:04

    25.4 is the biggest that would fit in a saxo, hence the reason the group A ones are that size, apparentlly it makes a big difference, stops the lift off oversteer problem that so many saxo's and gti's end up being wrote off because of. i had a 24mm in my old vtr and i could feel the difference when taking corners hard.
21. MiniGibbo Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 15289 '04 VW Transporter.

    #21 17th May 2009, 17:11

    Lift off over steer is not a problem if you know how to use it properly.
    
    Used properly it can be an aid for faster cornering.
    
    Matt.