Lowering 40mm-50mm

1. Steve1255 L-plater Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 83 Saxo vtr '97'

   #1 4th December 2007, 22:55

   Hey,
   Planning to loser my vtr about 40-50mm, will this affect the handling? and is 40mm even noticable???
   Also ive seen some springs on the net, is this all i need (gettin a mechanic to lower the torsion bar obv) ?? or would u suggest gettin new shocks, etc???
   
   any help wud b gr8 cheerz
2. Anders0n Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 1017

   #2 4th December 2007, 22:59

   Handling is improved greatly by lowering. The cars center of gravity is lower and bodyroll is less apparent in corners.
   
   If you can afford springs and shocks, go for it, it will save you changing the standard shocks in the long run.
   
   Just springs are good for the short term.
   
   50mm ftw.
3. Steve1255 L-plater Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 83 Saxo vtr '97'

   #3 4th December 2007, 23:01

   50mm with the shocks it is then, cheerz bud
4. Krys_23 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6543

   #4 4th December 2007, 23:04

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Steve1255 50mm with the shocks it is then, cheerz bud

   Many members on here would advise Eibach Sportlines mate ordered mine today they are 50mm one's
5. Steve1255 L-plater Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 83 Saxo vtr '97'

   #5 4th December 2007, 23:04

   p.s wot shocks/springs do u think i sud go for? remembering i dnt have much to spend lol
6. Wayne Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2007 Powys Posts: 15348 Icelandtic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS 53 Turbo

   #6 4th December 2007, 23:09

   eibach sportline springs blistein for shocks but will be more expensive about £324 mark with those springs and shocks on www.kam-racing.com
7. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

   #7 4th December 2007, 23:11

   For everyday driving with a similar level of comfort the Eibach springs are good, Bilstein shocks are brilliant by all accounts to go with those.
   
   If you want to do any trackdays or are looking for a firmer ride the Eibachs would probably not be the best choice as they are a bit too soft- something like GMC ones which arent as low would be better
8. Steve1255 L-plater Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 83 Saxo vtr '97'

   #8 4th December 2007, 23:16

   Cheerz guys, im hoping to do a few trackdays but the cars goin to spend most of its time on the road.
   do u recon the Eibachs and blistein shocks wud cope with a track day?
9. Krys_23 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6543

   #9 4th December 2007, 23:19

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Steve1255 Cheerz guys, im hoping to do a few trackdays but the cars goin to spend most of its time on the road. do u recon the Eibachs and blistein shocks wud cope with a track day?

   I would imagine it would be alright.. Tracks surface is usually better than a road anyway but i suppose its all about the correct set up
10. Wayne Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2007 Powys Posts: 15348 Icelandtic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS 53 Turbo

    #10 4th December 2007, 23:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve1255 Cheerz guys, im hoping to do a few trackdays but the cars goin to spend most of its time on the road. do u recon the Eibachs and blistein shocks wud cope with a track day?

    would be fine mate with that set up
11. dk_vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Derry - Ireland Posts: 153 MK2 VTR

    #11 6th December 2007, 00:08

    I just got my VTR on Saturday... wanna get it lowered asap. was planning on dropping it 40mm. Could some one tell me with 40-50mm drop, with standard VTR alloys can u still get full steering lock? or is this minimised? (by much?)... has any one experiencd rubbing with a 40-50mm drop? jus curios... dont wanna be damaging anything!
    
    Also any suggestions for induction kit and prices? im thinkin enclosed is the best idea yea? green?
    
    and finally.. im after a magnex back box. eventually id like to get a full system and then sometime (all depending on money) a 4-2-1 mani... is it ok to work like this.. backbox first then few months later rest of system then few months later the manifold, buying them as i can afford them or what order should i work in?
    Thanks!
12. Krys_23 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6543

    #12 6th December 2007, 00:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dk_vtr I just got my VTR on Saturday... wanna get it lowered asap. was planning on dropping it 40mm. Could some one tell me with 40-50mm drop, with standard VTR alloys can u still get full steering lock? or is this minimised? (by much?)... has any one experiencd rubbing with a 40-50mm drop? jus curios... dont wanna be damaging anything! Also any suggestions for induction kit and prices? im thinkin enclosed is the best idea yea? green? and finally.. im after a magnex back box. eventually id like to get a full system and then sometime (all depending on money) a 4-2-1 mani... is it ok to work like this.. backbox first then few months later rest of system then few months later the manifold, buying them as i can afford them or what order should i work in? Thanks!

    Hey mate you will be spot on lowered 40mm with 14's i'm going 50 on 16's and it still should be alright.. yeah go for enclosed if you want performance..
    Defo get the car lowered first makes all the difference then go for a simota induction kit or a bmc cda probably your best bet buddy hope this helps!
13. pritchard9025 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2007 south wales Posts: 361 clio sport 182/vtr track car

    #13 6th December 2007, 20:33

    mines 60mm all round good handling neva had any problems withspeed bumps and looks good
14. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #14 7th December 2007, 09:03

    if money is tight and you want the best you can afford then look at the 106 bilstein sprintlines + eibach springs, The kit is cheaper than the saxo kit as its got a smore road orientated front damper..
15. pritchard9025 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2007 south wales Posts: 361 clio sport 182/vtr track car

    #15 8th December 2007, 13:05

    mines 60mm and dont get any subing ect
16. pritchard9025 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2007 south wales Posts: 361 clio sport 182/vtr track car

    #16 8th December 2007, 13:07

    rubing i meant
17. Hopcraft Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 Northampton Posts: 5957 ED30

    #17 8th December 2007, 14:01

    you will on full lock, i get scrub on full lock with 4 people inc me in the car. thats down -50
18. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #18 8th December 2007, 17:07

    depends if you really kick the piss out of your car. 50mm and even 40mm will bottom out on country roads. unless you get a real hard setup.