Best Place for Cold Air feed?!

  1. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #1
    I think perhaps the tiny little cut out in the slam panel of a mk2 Saxo is very limitting?

    where else can I locate the cold air feed where I will actually recieve some cold air from?

    Any ideas?
  2. Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Posts: 12553
    #2
    Under the front splitter...
  3. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 Sussex Posts: 3891 2x 106 GTi
    #3
    I've heard the best place is at the bottom of the front splitter It's better to draw in cold air from as low down as you can
  4. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #4
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Robsax View Post
    I've heard the best place is at the bottom of the front splitter It's better to draw in cold air from as low down as you can
    along with when I drive through a puddle I put water in my inlet and into my valves? :/

    serious answers?
  5. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 8935 Ibiza Cupra 204bhp
    #5
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Soulless View Post
    along with when I drive through a puddle I put water in my inlet and into my valves? :/

    serious answers?
    thats why i had to re-think my positioning. still not found a good place yet...
  6. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1
    #6
    I still feel that getting it to the fog lights is the best bet, but then you have to
    drop one..
  7. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #7
    I would say perhaps in the mouth of the bumper? but then there is a Rad in the way...
  8. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can
    #8
    The slam panel is the best place. It's not exactly the lowest point, but at least you won't pick up water from the road.
  9. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #9
    its a bit limited though wouldnt you agree Toad?
  10. Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Posts: 12553
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Soulless View Post
    along with when I drive through a puddle I put water in my inlet and into my valves? :/

    serious answers?
    Mine is there... I've had no problems with puddles...
  11. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #11
    so your cold air feed in effect is in the lowest point possible.

    Say a road is flooded about half a foot - a foot deep,
    will you suck it up?
  12. Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Posts: 12553
    #12
    I haven't had any problems with things like that... Even in them floods in the summer it was fine. I'll get a photo later for you...?
  13. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #13
    yeah please do?
    Cant see how it doesnt suck up water
  14. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #14
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Robsax View Post
    I've heard the best place is at the bottom of the front splitter It's better to draw in cold air from as low down as you can
    the best place is the area of the car with a high pressure zone. Usually this is around the front bumper area towards the centre. If you look at the peugeot 406 touring cars for example they had two intake points here..
  15. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can
    #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Soulless View Post
    its a bit limited though wouldnt you agree Toad?
    It's not limited at all. There's loads of room there, and it's a place where outside air is constantly being forced through.
  16. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can
    #16
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KamRacing View Post
    the best place is the area of the car with a high pressure zone. Usually this is around the front bumper area towards the centre. If you look at the peugeot 406 touring cars for example they had two intake points here..
    Sounds good to me!

    But just remember Soulless, road car and race car. Two different things!
  17. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #17
    dunno, theres just grille slats and bonnet in the way of that tiny hole in the slam panel...

    If you think its alright to leave my airfeed located here, I will.
  18. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Lincoln/Newark Posts: 2673 Mercedes C220, Scooby, Saxo VTS
    #18
  19. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #19
    Pics of your car from the front plixxx.
  20. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Lincoln/Newark Posts: 2673 Mercedes C220, Scooby, Saxo VTS
    #20
  21. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can
    #21
    I will try to take a pic for you later Soulless. If you look at the front area, you'll notice that there's a fair bit of the plastic from the fan that's kindda in the way. I cut a lot of this out, to aid air flow to the filter.
  22. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can
    #22
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTR_Craig View Post
    See, the issue here is a few things really. As the opening is directly open to the outside elements, a lot of stuff can get sucked up. With the slam panel option, the bonnet sits over the intake area, blocking any bits and bobs getting in. It means that the filter stays much cleaner for a longer period of time, which helps in performance and maintenance. Also, water can easily get through that pipe, and I'm not just talking about flood water! A soggy filter is not desireable as I'm sure you know!
  23. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #23
    Do you notice that to be better VTR_Craig?
  24. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #24
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    See, the issue here is a few things really. As the opening is directly open to the outside elements, a lot of stuff can get sucked up. With the slam panel option, the bonnet sits over the intake area, blocking any bits and bobs getting in. It means that the filter stays much cleaner for a longer period of time, which helps in performance and maintenance. Also, water can easily get through that pipe, and I'm not just talking about flood water! A soggy filter is not desireable as I'm sure you know!
    not only that but whats stopping someone in a carpark taking a wee in it?
    or stuffing wrappers or anything in it?
  25. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Lincoln/Newark Posts: 2673 Mercedes C220, Scooby, Saxo VTS
    #25
    confession time - I'm a style whore and its fake just so i can get to the bonnet catch.

    Its been removed since then.
  26. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Lincoln/Newark Posts: 2673 Mercedes C220, Scooby, Saxo VTS
    #26
    Personally would put it down to a wheel arch, away from the heat of the engine, like people customise a fog light to put a feed in it.
  27. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can
    #27
    Glad you took it off. It looks pony...
  28. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2007 Powys Posts: 15348 Icelandtic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS 53 Turbo
    #28
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTR_Craig View Post
    confession time - I'm a style whore and its fake just so i can get to the bonnet catch.

    Its been removed since then.
    glad you took it off mate i reckon it looks so much better without , same colour saxo as mine
  29. L-plater Joined: Dec 2007 Hertfordshire Posts: 51 not yet
    #29
    AT THE FRONT BUMPER!!! Im not any engine expert but i am a good physicist. *Spelling*

    The front bumper should be the highest pressure (air) point of the car. Because that is where the air is cut in 2. Place the cold air feed at the top of the black splitter should get any water puddle problems. Because hopefully the lower part of the bumper will block the splash.

    Anyway that was my scientific iput thankyou
    lol
  30. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #30
    Pazog so your pretty much vouching for foglight intake?
  31. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 dublin Posts: 768 saxo vts- r5 raider
    #31
    i have fog light intake for my bmc, i used to have it at the slam panel and noticed a big difference went i removed my fog

    you can kinda see it in this pic

  32. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #32
    How do I mount the ring in my fog light hole?
    Also...did you notice any difference from the standard slam panel intake?
  33. Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Posts: 12553
    #33
    Surely you woudn't feel anything?
  34. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 dublin Posts: 768 saxo vts- r5 raider
    #34
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Soulless View Post
    How do I mount the ring in my fog light hole?
    Also...did you notice any difference from the standard slam panel intake?
    you should be able to fiddle the ring into place.

    when i was fitting my bmc i test drove it with the slam panel fitting and the the fog light and i found it more responsive in the fog light!!!
  35. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 dublin Posts: 768 saxo vts- r5 raider
    #35
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by David View Post
    Surely you woudn't feel anything?
    i felt it more torqueer in 1st and second to be honest and so did my mate.
  36. L-plater Joined: Dec 2007 Hertfordshire Posts: 51 not yet
    #36
    Yeah foglight. I must sound a little confusing sorry
  37. Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Posts: 12553
    #37
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by eoey View Post
    i felt it more torqueer in 1st and second to be honest and so did my mate.
    Fair play...
  38. L-plater Joined: Dec 2007 Hertfordshire Posts: 51 not yet
    #38
    Yeah Eoey i can imagine why the move from slam panel to fog made a difference.

    Possibly because of the heat from the radiator?? Does that make sense?
  39. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 dublin Posts: 768 saxo vts- r5 raider
    #39
    yeah but also theres more air flow at the fog light less physical barriors etc
  40. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2007 Powys Posts: 15348 Icelandtic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS 53 Turbo
    #40
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by eoey View Post
    i have fog light intake for my bmc, i used to have it at the slam panel and noticed a big difference went i removed my fog

    you can kinda see it in this pic
    quite like the fog light intake and your car
  41. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Leicester Posts: 796 Corsa GSI C20LET
    #41
    did you have to drill through that little hole in the body of the car behind the fog light to put ur cold air feed in?
  42. Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 130
    #42
    i have a 106 gti with bmc i put the feed down to the left hand side of the rad so it sucks air thru the small slated bit at the lower part of the bumper. away from engine heat, low, and still protected my bumper.
  43. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #43
    pics please..