K&N induction kit

1. saxobrad Newbie Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 5

   #1 13th December 2007, 17:54

   If i put this on my vtr how much extra bhp do i get??
2. Hughey Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2007 Burnley, Lancs Posts: 437 Two Tone VTR

   #2 13th December 2007, 17:56

   -1 - +1
3. VTR_Nick Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 Plymouth Posts: 1877 CLio sport 172

   #3 13th December 2007, 17:58

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Hughey -1 - +1

   prob about 2 BHP, don't listen tot he chavs that say about 5 BHP lol
4. VTR_Nick Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 Plymouth Posts: 1877 CLio sport 172

   #4 13th December 2007, 17:58

   also, this is in the wrong section
5. KIRKSTER-VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Gainsborough Posts: 2197 citroen Saxo VTS Silver

   #5 13th December 2007, 17:58

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by VTR_Nick prob about 2 BHP, don't listen tot he chavs that say about 5 BHP lol

   lol max power figures +10 lol
   
   but about plus 2
6. Wayne Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2007 Powys Posts: 15348 Icelandtic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS 53 Turbo

   #6 13th December 2007, 17:59

   maybe 1bhp or no bhp gain.
7. chrichvtr Banned Joined: Nov 2007 nottingham Posts: 1060 Fiat Punto 2001 (in the process of selling and get

   #7 13th December 2007, 18:00

   most induction kits actually lose performance mate!!
   
   however i wouldnt buy this if you want a performance mod mainly just a grunty sound is all you will achieve
8. harding1985 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Essex Posts: 286 Citroen Saxo 1.6 VTS

   #8 13th December 2007, 18:00

   Depends if its warm or cold outside lol....
   
   Keep the standard airbox and get a panel filter
9. saxobrad Newbie Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 5

   #9 13th December 2007, 18:01

   this is the forum with most people so i get quicker replies!!! so whats the gain with a K&N then?????
10. Wayne Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2007 Powys Posts: 15348 Icelandtic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS 53 Turbo

    #10 13th December 2007, 18:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by harding1985 Depends if its warm or cold outside lol.... Keep the standard airbox and get a panel filter

    i agree i have the green panel filter and makes a nice noise
11. harding1985 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Essex Posts: 286 Citroen Saxo 1.6 VTS

    #11 13th December 2007, 18:02

    panel filter or cone?
    
    prob abt 2-3bhp at most tbh
12. chrichvtr Banned Joined: Nov 2007 nottingham Posts: 1060 Fiat Punto 2001 (in the process of selling and get

    #12 13th December 2007, 18:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxobrad this is the forum with most people so i get quicker replies!!! so whats the gain with a K&N then?????

    fuck all to be fair!!
    
    you wont notice anything and it would hardly affect a 0-60 time just sound meaner!!
13. laura_g Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2006 Tamworth Posts: 9581 VTR, RX8

    #13 13th December 2007, 18:04

    never understood why people wanted induction kits to make their car sound fast like an evo or scooby it makes me laugh
14. harding1985 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Essex Posts: 286 Citroen Saxo 1.6 VTS

    #14 13th December 2007, 18:05

    99% of people get air filters for the noise
    
    If you want performance you gotta spend some serious cash
15. saxobrad Newbie Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 5

    #15 13th December 2007, 18:06

    fack it then im gonna keep it as standard as poss then!!!
16. laura_g Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2006 Tamworth Posts: 9581 VTR, RX8

    #16 13th December 2007, 18:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by harding1985 99% of people get air filters for the noise If you want performance you gotta spend some serious cash

    or get a fast car lol
17. Davidp Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Posts: 12553

    #17 13th December 2007, 18:08

    Funk all. You will lose about 3 bhp.
18. harding1985 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Essex Posts: 286 Citroen Saxo 1.6 VTS

    #18 13th December 2007, 18:08

    Stick a VTS lump in the VTR that will be enough
19. chrichvtr Banned Joined: Nov 2007 nottingham Posts: 1060 Fiat Punto 2001 (in the process of selling and get

    #19 13th December 2007, 18:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by David Funk all. You will lose about 3 bhp.

    tis true i think k & n stay about the same however pipercross and some other brands lose 2 bhp its bullshit mate only any good if you want your car to sound something it isnt really i guess
20. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #20 13th December 2007, 18:13

    bugger all.
21. Dom_sufc Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2007 Lincoln, England Posts: 514 2000 VTR black

    #21 13th December 2007, 18:13

    Just get a Green Panel Filter. It doesn't make any sound difference, but It will deffo make a small improvement. Note, the small improvment Its only like £35 though.
    
    If you MUST buy an induction kit, get an enclosed one, or a scoop forced induction one. Those make sure you dont suck hot air in, which reduces BHP. Then the same again applies though, 5bhp at max, and they cost like £150 or less.
    
    Not sure on the green panel filters, but some say 5hp more isnt impossible. I think there's one lad on here that got 107.X hp, after only adding a new filter. Not to say he got an extra 7 hp, but somewhere around 3-5 maybe? Im sure someone will correct me
22. matty182 L-plater Joined: Dec 2007 worcester Posts: 67 saxo 1.5d posi blue matey!! pug 307 2.0 HDI

    #22 13th December 2007, 18:30

    its not gonna be much mate, if u get any at all
    it'll only be about +2 at most
23. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #23 13th December 2007, 18:40

    the only reason you'd see a change is that you're putting on a fresh clean air filter and replacing a crap out unclean one.
    
    highly unlikely you'll get any benefits
24. The_STIG Established Member Joined: Sep 2005 middlesbrough United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1144 Astra REDTOP 165bhp

    #24 13th December 2007, 18:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer the only reason you'd see a change is that you're putting on a fresh clean air filter and replacing a crap out unclean one. highly unlikely you'll get any benefits

    agreed just sound better imo but then over all the saxo raattles u cnt hear it neways lol
25. dk_vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Derry - Ireland Posts: 153 MK2 VTR

    #25 14th December 2007, 22:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dom_sufc Just get a Green Panel Filter. It doesn't make any sound difference, but It will deffo make a small improvement. Note, the small improvment Its only like £35 though. If you MUST buy an induction kit, get an enclosed one, or a scoop forced induction one. Those make sure you dont suck hot air in, which reduces BHP. Then the same again applies though, 5bhp at max, and they cost like £150 or less. Not sure on the green panel filters, but some say 5hp more isnt impossible. I think there's one lad on here that got 107.X hp, after only adding a new filter. Not to say he got an extra 7 hp, but somewhere around 3-5 maybe? Im sure someone will correct me

    
    think thats saxoboy ur talkin bout??? if it is he highly recommends the green panel filter.... gunna get one of these myself soon
26. Dom_sufc Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2007 Lincoln, England Posts: 514 2000 VTR black

    #26 14th December 2007, 22:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dk_vtr think thats saxoboy ur talkin bout??? if it is he highly recommends the green panel filter.... gunna get one of these myself soon

    yeah I think so And Funnily enough I dont own one yet either
    
    
    (Huge probs with my sax atm, so may not be modding at all for at least 2 weeks... May be even selling)
27. makaveli144 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Burton Posts: 3661 Alfa Romeo GT

    #27 14th December 2007, 23:05

    Quote:

    (Huge probs with my sax atm, so may not be modding at all for at least 2 weeks... May be even selling)

    Iv just been though that stage. Hopefully it over for now, fingers crossed.
    
    Panel filters are a good choice, the standard airbox is designed for the engine itself and has a specific tract length which affects torque profiles etc. I have seen cars with a bmc in particular loose torque and hp. Although not really with scoop types such as the simota. The standard airbox can also deal with inlet pulses whereas an aftermarket one cant.