Turbo for a VTS

1. bertie Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 swindon Posts: 115 vts W reg Silver

   #1 30th December 2007, 21:31

   I just want to ask you guy's if this turbo kit would be ok for my vts or would i be wasting my money?
   
   http://www.cituning.ltd.uk/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=1001
2. RCD-Performance Established Member Joined: Dec 2007 Southampton Posts: 2278

   #2 30th December 2007, 21:37

   My opinion on that would be that it seems quite a well made kit from first glance, however no de-cat/sports cat is included and neither is an intercooler, ecu, piping etc etc.
   
   So i would say its quite exspensive. however bear in mind my knowledge of the saxo turbo market is limited.
   
   It claims gains of 30-40 hp which seems about right, however remember you will ned to spend a LOT more on top of the price of this kit.
   
   30-40hp can be got a lot cheaper by using NA tuning.
   
   However if turbo is want you want. go for it mate
   
   Just my personal opinion
   
   Ross
   RCD Performance.
3. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #3 30th December 2007, 21:41

   the citunning kit doesnt have the best reputation for producing the best figures for the £.
   
   id ring GMC and get a quote from them.
4. bertie Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 swindon Posts: 115 vts W reg Silver

   #4 30th December 2007, 21:41

   is there any other companies that do a turbo kit ?
5. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #5 30th December 2007, 21:43

   see above.
   
   personally the only company id let touch my engine when it comes to most. i know a few big name cars who had to go there to fix problems from other companies.
6. Berg Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2007 rugby Posts: 3766 MK2 VTS, Ibiza Cupra 20VT

   #6 30th December 2007, 21:47

   pug10ff, not sure how much they charge though
7. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #7 30th December 2007, 22:39

   gmc or diy imo
8. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #8 30th December 2007, 22:41

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by williamsvts gmc or diy imo

   id still source the parts from gmc even if going diy.
9. gazzy9 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Guernsey Posts: 178 Saxo vtr 2003

   #9 30th December 2007, 22:52

   what wuld u need to do on top of this to get it 100% complete?
10. Roper Established Member Joined: Feb 2006 Derbyshire Posts: 1815 Black 106 GTi Turbo

    #10 30th December 2007, 22:55

    here you go mate, few people off here have used carworx,
    
    http://www.cars-worx.co.uk/saxo106.htm#turbo
    
    just scoll down.
    
    complete kit btw all including labour
11. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #11 30th December 2007, 22:58

    depends how far you wanna go and waht you want for fuelling and management.
    
    turbo
    manifold
    downpipe
    intercooler
    boostpipes
    silicone hoses
    oil/water feeds
    extra/bigger injectors
    low comp pistons or decomp plate
    standalone ecu or mf2 and sigcon
    2 bar map sensor
    bigger dia exhaust
    varous smaller parts to get it all fitted and shit.
12. RCD-Performance Established Member Joined: Dec 2007 Southampton Posts: 2278

    #12 30th December 2007, 23:30

    problem with turbocharging is that theres no real "end" to it and you can keep going forever.
    
    Theres a lot of +/- to it also.
    
    However i do think there can be more negatives than positives in some cases
13. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #13 30th December 2007, 23:36

    1. how much have you got to spend
    2. how much power do you want (realistically)
14. vtr130 Established Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 2279

    #14 31st December 2007, 00:20

    Dp engineering for turbo parts mate!! Wont beat them
    
    http://www.dp-engineering.nl/EN/
15. Jackman Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2006 Bridgend, South Wales Posts: 11234 iTB 205 Rallye, 205 STDT.

    #15 31st December 2007, 01:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Berg pug10ff, not sure how much they charge though

    About £5000 all in.
16. RCD-Performance Established Member Joined: Dec 2007 Southampton Posts: 2278

    #16 2nd January 2008, 08:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jackman About £5000 all in.

    Thats a hell of a lot, for a relativly small power increase.
17. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #17 2nd January 2008, 12:02

    http://www.cituning.ltd.uk/ Cituning basic kit for £2200 plus fitting, but that will only give you around 150bhp
    
    http://www.bemani.ch/ Bemani do a reliable and really nice positive displacement kit that gives you 163bhp kit for £4400. But they are not in the UK so you will have to get some one to fit it
    
    http://www.cars-worx.co.uk/ Carworx list a basic setup that gives you over 200bhp for just over £4000 and fitting at around £500.
    
    http://www.gmcmotorsport.co.uk/ Do a very high quality super charge setup for not much more than the one above turbo kit.
    
    http://www.dpmotorsport.com/ Dpmotorsport do the nicest drive in drive out kit I have ever seen. I know of only two cars that have had it done and they were both insanely quick. They did them a long time ago so you would have to give them a call on price.
    
    http://www.dp-engineering.com/ I should also give these guys a mention. They just do a few nice parts. They don’t do true full kits and they are outside the UK so can not fit for you. So not really what your after.
18. jonezy Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 Carnforth (lancaster) Posts: 1617 55 CTR premier '97 posi vts

    #18 2nd January 2008, 14:33

    the proces of that DP engineering seems very fair, dont know whatl happen when imported tho.
    
    a GT25, wow
19. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #19 2nd January 2008, 17:25

    They are a very good price for what they are. They are not however cheap. The thing you have to remember with Dpengineering is that its not a full kit. You are talking £1400 plus postage for just the manifold, down pipe, turbo and some of the oil and water pipes. But then there is £500 for the ic. £73 for the air bypass valve. £300 for piggyback ECU. £170 to lower comp. £45 for MAP sensor and so on. It soon adds up. Then they also don’t sell things such as a sump to take the oil drain and they don’t do full pipe sets. With it all posted to you, the other parts sorted, get it fitted and then getting it all setup can easily end up costing you more than going to one of the others and getting a turn key job done. You don’t get any warranty and its likely it would take a lot longer to get it up and running.
20. RedB Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445

    #20 2nd January 2008, 18:53

    Hello mate,
    
    Id rather spend half of that for realistic figures and reliability with a nicely tuned TU lump
    
    Turbo's are expensive in every sense and not always reliable as Simo has proven...If you can afford a very nice setup agreed they can be sweeeeet