egine conversions at MOT time

  1. Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts
    #1
    hi

    i was wondering if anyone could give me information on what i will have to do at MOT time if i go through with my saxo 1.1 - vtr conversion. will i have to change the engine back to 1.1? please help!!!

    thanks
  2. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #2
    no you wont need to change the engine back for an mot
  3. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #3
    Should be declared with the DVLA anyways so the MOT centre should know what engine it has anyways?
  4. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 7064
    #4
    Tell the DVLA about the change of engine & engine size!

    Probably work out more cost effective to sell the 1.1 & buy a proper Vtr!
  5. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi
    #5
    may aswell go for a 16v engein if your doing a conversion.
    just give the tester an extra tenna to pass it.
  6. Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts
    #6
    i dont want to buy a vtr. i'm still paying for my 1.1. its the new thing me and my mates are doing. putting bigger engines into 1.1 shells to scare the bigger opposition e.g sri's. one of my mates has recently put a 106 rally engine with modifyed ax gti gearbox and lightend flywheel into his R reg 1.1 106. it doesn't half shift. first gear 35mph, 2nd 75, 3rd 105 then goes off the clock at 110 as it still the origional 1.1 clocks with no tachometer.
  7. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi
    #7
    put a 16v in. or buy a vauxhall and build a 350hp engine
  8. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Evesham Posts: 949 3x mk1 Saxo VTR's 1x 1987 mk2 xr2
    #8
    Very interesting gear ratio's he has there, wonder how acurate those figures are.

    It's easy enough to do, just make sure you declare to DVLA AND!!! Insurance company
  9. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #9
    you mean youd like to build a sleeper?
    Put a VTS engine in,
    much more smile factor.
  10. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Evesham Posts: 949 3x mk1 Saxo VTR's 1x 1987 mk2 xr2
    #10
    my Xr2 is a sleeper twin 42 dellorto carbs, port and polished head, racing cam all within a standard looking xr2 hehehe
  11. Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts
    #11
    yeah the vts would be a better option, but the 8 valver is a better starting point. its easier to put in as there is less work involved.
  12. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Evesham Posts: 949 3x mk1 Saxo VTR's 1x 1987 mk2 xr2
    #12
    oh btw your insurance will normally be more to insure a 1.1 with a 1.6 lump in than to insure a 1.6 straight off. Because your car has been modded for performance gains!
  13. Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts
    #13
    u r joking!!! aw well, what the insurer doesn't know, wont hurt me!!!
  14. Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Posts: 12553
    #14
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kennym1987 View Post
    u r joking!!! aw well, what the insurer doesn't know, wont hurt me!!!
    So it's not declared to the DVLA or your insurance...?
  15. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Evesham Posts: 949 3x mk1 Saxo VTR's 1x 1987 mk2 xr2
    #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kennym1987 View Post
    u r joking!!! aw well, what the insurer doesn't know, wont hurt me!!!
    Please tell your insurance company because if you was to hit me whilst being uninsured I would hunt you down with a big bat!!
  16. Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts
    #16
    the conversion hasn't taken place yet. still trying to source parts localy
  17. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Evesham Posts: 949 3x mk1 Saxo VTR's 1x 1987 mk2 xr2
    #17
    Just make sure you tell your insurance and the DVLA, because otherwise you will be driving with no insurance!!
  18. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2005 M'Bro - Teesside Posts: 3060 401 bhp r33 skyline
    #18
    if your going to do it but not going to tell your insurance or get it on your V5 then your not going to pass an mot are you?

    come on mate dont be a dick, know what i meen.
  19. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi
    #19
    how is it harder to fit a vts engine than a vtr? just the same.
    if your doing a conversion at least do it properly
  20. Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts
    #20
    no. vtr is a str8 swap. no need to weld new mounts on. plus i already have the engine.
  21. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi
    #21
    you'll only wish you put a 16v in when you get dusted off a vts or gti
  22. Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts
    #22
    yeah i know. but i cant afford to stump up the cash for a pro conversion. my mate can do the vtr, but he hasn't finishd his apprenticeship yet. another mate of mine has the vts engine in his ax that started life as a 1.0. £1200 supplied and fitted. now that thing can shift. under heavy braking the rear end gets very nervous as ther is no weight in it.
  23. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi
    #23
    i do it for £200. you supply parts though.
  24. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Evesham Posts: 949 3x mk1 Saxo VTR's 1x 1987 mk2 xr2
    #24
    I'll do it for £195 and proof your insured lol
  25. Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Bolton Posts: 1300 Mauritius blue VTR
    #25
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by williamsvts View Post
    you'll only wish you put a 16v in when you get dusted off a vts or gti
    You've got a point mate but at the end of the day its like saying you buy a Saxo VTS, get dusted off a Golf R32 and wish you'd bought one of those...
  26. Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 Leicester Posts: 1083 BMW 5er
    #26
    *thread hi-jack* (sorry )

    sorry for being dense, but i take it as...

    aslong as your insured and the doovla know, there aren't any problems come MOT time?

    as isn't there more room for emissions on a car with a different engine (to standerd)

    and is the car re-banded (for road tax) automatically?

    thanks in advance!
  27. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi
    #27
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by alextoffie View Post
    You've got a point mate but at the end of the day its like saying you buy a Saxo VTS, get dusted off a Golf R32 and wish you'd bought one of those...
    thats not what its about, he's on about tuning his car to diappoint others so he may aswell put start with the best engine he can.
  28. Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye
    #28
    just go for the vts engine....DIY...

    me and my mate are doing mine im a plumber and hes a bum so should be fun...
  29. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Sep 2007 Jail - Whitby Posts: 15034 520bhp Honda Jazz
    #29
    il do it for 50 quid if you drop the engine off to me in a carpark somewhere, and il tell you my adress when its done my mates will drive your car back. can keep your numberplates
  30. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi
    #30
    eh? you'll do an engine convo for £50?
  31. Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2006 Bridgend, South Wales Posts: 11234 iTB 205 Rallye, 205 STDT.
    #31
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by smiith View Post
    il do it for 50 quid if you drop the engine off to me in a carpark somewhere, and il tell you my adress when its done my mates will drive your car back. can keep your numberplates
    you wha?!
  32. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi
    #32
    you would regret doing an engine convo for £50.
  33. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #33
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by alextoffie View Post
    You've got a point mate but at the end of the day its like saying you buy a Saxo VTS, get dusted off a Golf R32 and wish you'd bought one of those...
    a 16v with throttlebodies is needed then. R32's arent fast. I was disappointed when one tried to race me in my 205 mi16. Even uphill he was rubbish. I thought torque won races
  34. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Sep 2007 Jail - Whitby Posts: 15034 520bhp Honda Jazz
    #34
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by williamsvts View Post
    you would regret doing an engine convo for £50.
    it means il nick 50 quid, the engine and the car lol.

    thats why he takes the numberplates off the car, meets me in a carpark, puts the engine in my boot, and lets my mate drive off with his car

    was a joke lol.

    id blow myself up tryin for real tbh
  35. Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2006 Prestwick Posts: 952 Saxo VTR mk2
    #35
    Quote:
    u r joking!!! aw well, what the insurer doesn't know, wont hurt me!!!
    It will hurt you if you crash into someone and have to stump up money for both your own car and their car because your insurance is void.
  36. Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts
    #36
    come-on! it was a joke! as i said, it hasn't taken place yet.
  37. Established Member Joined: Dec 2007 Redcar, Middlesbrough Posts: 2285 16v Rallye S2
    #37
    16vs and 8vs are the same engine mounts anyway ?
  38. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi
    #38
    there not.
  39. Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Falmouth Posts: 177 Saxo 1.6 8v VTR
    #39
    I just bought VTS engine this afternoon, complete lump less gearbox for £165!

    You could have bought my VTR engine
  40. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 208
    #40
    got my new vts lump the other day for 150.

    been fitting it for the past 2 days, weater stopped play for today though.

    its all bolted in, just needs connecting up and then driveshafts can go back in, woop.

    done it all myself too
  41. Newbie Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 2
    #41
    BOYS BOys, everyone worries too much. theres corruption everywhere, if you know where to look you can find.
    I can get LEGITE MOT if your interested let me know.
    carquestion@hotmail.co.uk
    i wont give my fone number yet due to ppl trying to hunt me down lol
    but its gotta be done lets face it modifyings expesive by declaring it