Supercharging

7th January 2008, 17:53

Thinking about supercharging my VTS as dont want too spend thousands..

Which supercharger & how many notes?

7th January 2008, 17:55

thousands althought you could buy a ebay supercharger for £70

Trick noob into buying one to see if it works ftw

7th January 2008, 17:55

leaf blower + nos ftw

7th January 2008, 18:05

Theyre shite arent they, ebay electric superchargers!?

Need some good imput on chips, power and price!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7th January 2008, 18:07

Yes they're shit electric ones lol.

Dont be tight on the n00b lol

7th January 2008, 18:07

chips? why do you want them?

Contact gmc, 5k minimum

7th January 2008, 18:14

What do you recommend then, if not chipping it?

7th January 2008, 18:40

A "proper" supercharger I imagine will need some sort of uprated engine management.
Something like KMS, Omex, Emerald. They all cost around £500 or more I beleive.
That doesnt inc rolling road costs, fitting, plus the Supercharger and parts
plus the fitting for all that.

To do it proper.. Will cost Im afraid.
Not point doing it on the cheap as the car wont last, unless you know what
your doing.

7th January 2008, 18:43

Bike carbs FTW!

will sadly cost thousands to charge one mate

7th January 2008, 18:46

Charging is expensive.. unless you can get the bits second hand and fit yourself.

but even then it still aint cheap.

I was quoted just over £5k for a turbo kit fully fitted.

7th January 2008, 19:24

Thinking about supercharging my VTS as dont want too spend thousands..

that doesnt happen.

7th January 2008, 19:34

the dadies of supercharging saxos tuning...

1- C30/64 Charger with Bracket, Rollers, Oil Tank and Fixings £1736.00
1- Aluminium Welded Construction Intercooler £350.00
1- Aluminium Welded Construction Radiator £350.00
1- Cooling Fan Kit £93.00
1- Aluminium Header Tank £55.00
1- Rad Cap £5.00
1- Alternator Bracket (VTR Type) £45.00
1- 16 Row oil Cooler £60.00
1- Drive Belt 1180mm 80mm Pulley £21.00
1- MF2 Unit + GMC Signal Conditioner 3 £450.00
1- 2bar MAP Sensor £78.00
1- Large Injector £70.00
1- Aluminium double Injector Holder 90 Degree Bend £55.00
1- Injector Fuel Fitting Kit £10.00
1- Injector Electric Connector Kit £6.50
1- Boost Pipe No 1 £94.00
1- Inlet Chrome Pipe No4 £87.00
1- Intake Hose £10.00
1- K+N Air filter Element £27.00
1- 200mm Fuel Hose £3.00
6- Stainless fuel Hose Clips £9.00
1- Samco Hose 51mm Joiner £6.00
1- Fuel Hose “T” Piece £3.50
1- Samco Hose 50mm x 22mm Diameter £2.00
1- Samco Hose 63mm x 51mm Diameter £22.00
2- Samco Hose 45 Degree Bends x 51mm Diameter £44.00
1- Samco Water Hose 450mm x13 mm £10.00
1- Samco Water Hose 450mm x 10 mm £9.00
7- Stainless Steel Hose Clips 60mm £10.50
1 - Stainless Steel Hose Clips 70mm £2.00
2- Stainless Steel Hose Clips 35mm £3.20
2- Stainless Steel Hose Clips 25mm £3.20
2- Stainless Steel Hose Clips 19mm £2.00
2- Intercooler Mounting Grommets £2.40
4- BCR8ES Spark Plugs £14.00

TOTAL £3699.30
VAT £647.38

PARTS GRAND TOTAL £4346.68
Labour cost to fit this to a standard engine £700.00
VAT £140.00

TOTAL FITTED PRICE £5186.68

this is not the up to date price list so will presumably be more now

thats a proffesional installation by GMC MOTORSPORT and it will put 185bhp at ur wheels. so im afraid m8 unless you want to spend upto 6k then you wont get a reliable install. plus you cant just uprate your engine, you got your brakes and suspension to think of as well as engine mounts,clutch and gearbox. im waitin on my car havin some nice new paintwork b4 she goes of to cars-worx for a turbo converion.

if u want turbo or supercharging and reliability to go with it you gotta have a big budget mate.

hope this helps, feedback welcome

7th January 2008, 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by westy2k1

the dadies of supercharging saxos tuning...

1- C30/64 Charger with Bracket, Rollers, Oil Tank and Fixings £1736.00
1- Aluminium Welded Construction Intercooler £350.00
1- Aluminium Welded Construction Radiator £350.00
1- Cooling Fan Kit £93.00
1- Aluminium Header Tank £55.00
1- Rad Cap £5.00
1- Alternator Bracket (VTR Type) £45.00
1- 16 Row oil Cooler £60.00
1- Drive Belt 1180mm 80mm Pulley £21.00
1- MF2 Unit + GMC Signal Conditioner 3 £450.00
1- 2bar MAP Sensor £78.00
1- Large Injector £70.00
1- Aluminium double Injector Holder 90 Degree Bend £55.00
1- Injector Fuel Fitting Kit £10.00
1- Injector Electric Connector Kit £6.50
1- Boost Pipe No 1 £94.00
1- Inlet Chrome Pipe No4 £87.00
1- Intake Hose £10.00
1- K+N Air filter Element £27.00
1- 200mm Fuel Hose £3.00
6- Stainless fuel Hose Clips £9.00
1- Samco Hose 51mm Joiner £6.00
1- Fuel Hose T Piece £3.50
1- Samco Hose 50mm x 22mm Diameter £2.00
1- Samco Hose 63mm x 51mm Diameter £22.00
2- Samco Hose 45 Degree Bends x 51mm Diameter £44.00
1- Samco Water Hose 450mm x13 mm £10.00
1- Samco Water Hose 450mm x 10 mm £9.00
7- Stainless Steel Hose Clips 60mm £10.50
1 - Stainless Steel Hose Clips 70mm £2.00
2- Stainless Steel Hose Clips 35mm £3.20
2- Stainless Steel Hose Clips 25mm £3.20
2- Stainless Steel Hose Clips 19mm £2.00
2- Intercooler Mounting Grommets £2.40
4- BCR8ES Spark Plugs £14.00

TOTAL £3699.30
VAT £647.38

PARTS GRAND TOTAL £4346.68
Labour cost to fit this to a standard engine £700.00
VAT £140.00

TOTAL FITTED PRICE £5186.68

this is not the up to date price list so will presumably be more now

thats a proffesional installation by GMC MOTORSPORT and it will put 185bhp at ur wheels. so im afraid m8 unless you want to spend upto 6k then you wont get a reliable install. plus you cant just uprate your engine, you got your brakes and suspension to think of as well as engine mounts,clutch and gearbox. im waitin on my car havin some nice new paintwork b4 she goes of to cars-worx for a turbo converion.

if u want turbo or supercharging and reliability to go with it you gotta have a big budget mate.

hope this helps, feedback welcome

Go to gmc for your turbo conversion!!!!!!!

7th January 2008, 21:32

i would have considered it mate but as far as i am aware due to reading in various other posts, they don't have a setup yet and the guy enquiring about one they responded "we can but we would need your car for X amount of time to work out a reliable setup etc"

however i may enquire myself and post their response!

7th January 2008, 21:34

whats wrog with that? good things come to those who wait

7th January 2008, 21:39

indeed but as iv'e never heard a bad word about carwrox they seem appealing and they have more experience in turbo'ing saxos where are GMC seem more supercharger orientated.

they dont even have a turbo section on their site or offer it.

7th January 2008, 21:42

that site is years out of date though.
GMC have years and years more knowledge than carworx.
i have heard a few badwords about them.

GMC anyday......................

7th January 2008, 21:44

cheers for the advice m8 i'll give em a ring on their high price number lol see what they have to say.

7th January 2008, 21:49

GMC GMC...

ha that's the ONLY place i'll go for any work/mapping just purely down to the quality of work, and the fact ive never heard a bad word about them.

and its like a 500+mile round trip for me.

7th January 2008, 21:50

high price number?

01671-403606

7th January 2008, 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by williamsvts

high price number?

01671-403606

ye sorry m8 i was lookin on their old site, only just realised lol, cheers

and to the other post it will be a massive trip for me 526 miles according to rac lmao worth tho im sure

7th January 2008, 22:04

just build it yourself and get somewhere closer to map it.

7th January 2008, 22:07

ad love to try but im not handy with that level of modification, ok ppl sayin its easy etc but id rather have it done by the pro's an anything probs tht arise they can sort for me.

7th January 2008, 22:48

what mods have you made to your saxo so far?

7th January 2008, 22:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dez

what mods have you made to your saxo so far?

not much, good induction kit piped to the front with chrome piping an a samco bend to tb, not sure of brand but it seems good, de-cat and stainless system from cat to exit.

thats it for now, its quick low mileage and been very well looked after!

7th January 2008, 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by westy2k1

not much, good induction kit piped to the front with chrome piping an a samco bend to tb, not sure of brand but it seems good, de-cat and stainless system from cat to exit.

thats it for now, its quick low mileage and been very well looked after!

lol i was asking killer you plonker ! sounds good though

7th January 2008, 23:02

lol fair nuff, 2 b fair we was kinda chattin bout turboin my car but nm and killers spec is:

1989 nova 1.2 merit shell
1992 facelift front end
gsi body kit
full respray in smake grey
full 1992 gsi interior
speedline alesio 2 wheels
wilwood 4 pots
quaife diff
poly bushs
C20XE 2L 16V engine
F20 gearbox
irmisher powercap
QED Q38H cams
powerboost valve
bigger injectors
ecu remap
jetex filter
jetex exhaust

as far as i no

7th January 2008, 23:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by westy2k1

lol fair nuff, 2 b fair we was kinda chattin bout turboin my car but nm and killers spec is:

1989 nova 1.2 merit shell
1992 facelift front end
gsi body kit
full respray in smake grey
full 1992 gsi interior
speedline alesio 2 wheels
wilwood 4 pots
quaife diff
poly bushs
C20XE 2L 16V engine
F20 gearbox
irmisher powercap
QED Q38H cams
powerboost valve
bigger injectors
ecu remap
jetex filter
jetex exhaust

as far as i no

personally i think the cost of supercharging is way way too much... better off saving the 5k and upgrading to a better car

7th January 2008, 23:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dez

personally i think the cost of supercharging is way way too much... better off saving the 5k and upgrading to a better car

lol read thru all the posts m8, im not thinkin of doin it me n killer n coupla others was explainin to the guy tht made the post how he cudn't supercharge his car with a couple of thou, however i do sort of agree with u....

7th January 2008, 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by westy2k1

lol read thru all the posts m8, im not thinkin of doin it me n killer n coupla others was explainin to the guy tht made the post how he cudn't supercharge his car with a couple of thou, however i do sort of agree with u....

yeah i read the first couple then skipped straight to the last ( lazy i know )

7th January 2008, 23:16

why is my nova's old spec been posted?

7th January 2008, 23:20

cuz i was explainin quickly mate and i cudnt find ur updated post, 6 months outa date but ull have to post ur new spec lol soz m8 i know its much better now

7th January 2008, 23:23

??? i thought he wanted 'killers' spec though?

my engine is still in bits at the min. haevnt finished building it yet.

7th January 2008, 23:29

lol ya know wot im not quite sure whose spec he wanted now i thought he wanted to no wot id got done in my engine so far as we was onna bout turbo'in mine want we...