Buying an Engine You Cant Hear?!

1. Lorrie_VTR Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Falmouth Posts: 177 Saxo 1.6 8v VTR

   #1 9th January 2008, 21:06

   Would anyone of you guys by an engine you havent heard run first... even if it has no warrenty..
   
   I've been collecting VTS bits for my conversion.. have ECU, loom, mounts, etc.. everything really except the engine and cooling system. I've spotted a couple in breakers but they are so far away from me.. (I live in Cornwall) so they have to be paletted up and sent down.
   
   No time I've heard the engine run, once I've got around to doing the headgasket, cambelt its going to have passed 30 days, so no warrenty...
   
   Dont know what to do?! Want VTS power!
2. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #2 9th January 2008, 22:10

   i have bought an engine i havent heard run but i was rebuilding it anyway. how much are you willing to pay for an engine?
3. nikolashewitt Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 208

   #3 9th January 2008, 22:24

   if its from a breakers the chances are it will work fine. most breakers wont sell a dodgy engine as they rely on you to go back and buy more bits to keep them in business and there reputation is on the line. iv brought an engine for my vts and i havnt heard it, im fitting it tomorrow so we'll see. if its fine then il reccommend him to you.
4. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

   #4 9th January 2008, 23:19

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by williamsvts i have bought an engine i havent heard run but i was rebuilding it anyway. how much are you willing to pay for an engine?

   Ordinarily id probably want to hear it run first.
   
   but,
   
   I bought mine with some service history and its been fully rebuilt anyway.
   
   Total spent on my engine so far is £4,500 and its not even in the car yet
5. Ben_L Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 Billericay, Essex (England) Posts: 6774 1.1.1i, 2.Mk2 VTR 3.Astra SRI 150

   #5 9th January 2008, 23:25

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by willsy Ordinarily id probably want to hear it run first. but, I bought mine with some service history and its been fully rebuilt anyway. Total spent on my engine so far is £4,500 and its not even in the car yet

   bloody hell mate, what you done to it?!
   
   This one i'm looking at getting not sure it has history but the place want £200 for it.. is it worth it you think? (thats without gearbox and clutch)
6. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #6 9th January 2008, 23:26

   what difference would it make if your rebuilding it though. everything would be getting renewed.
   
   whats your spec going to be?
7. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

   #7 9th January 2008, 23:34

   My list of stuff so far that ive jotted down:
   
   Procomp £215.00
   Refurb Parts (eg Paint) £400.00
   708 Cams + Followers/headwork £861.00
   BTB Manifold + Heatwrap £190.00
   BTB Exhaust £300.00
   Timing/Rebuild £275.00
   Styling Items £270.00
   Gearbox £393.00
   Engine £500
   
   Head Skimmed £30
   Water Pump £33
   82dg Thermostat (205 1.1carb £11
   Return Fuel Hose (3 sections) £20
   Alternator Belt £11
   Lockwood Dials £30
   Engine Mounts (group N) £165
   Rear wishbone bushes £38
   Purflex Oil Filter £8
   Port/Polished Throttle Body £25
   Cambelt kit £70
   Thrust Bearings £6
   Big End/Main Bearings £60
   Head Bolts £18
   Head Gasket kit £65
   Bottom End Seal Kit £26
   3.5 VTR FPR £20
   Alternator £154
   Catch Tank £40
   Twin Fan Unit £40
   VTS Radiator £50
   VTS Fuel Pump £20
   SFS hoses (coolant) £141
   Samco Hoses (induction) £75.00
   Spark Plugs £10.00
   Vernier Pulleys £100
   Piston rings £60
   Forged Pistons £400
   
   ...................................
   
   
   Still to buy:
   
   KMS ECU £900 give or take a little
   Remapping £400 give or take
   Driveshafts £200
   Wishbones £90
8. Ben_L Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 Billericay, Essex (England) Posts: 6774 1.1.1i, 2.Mk2 VTR 3.Astra SRI 150

   #8 9th January 2008, 23:37

   blimey. thats some work there.. deserve rep for your efforts i think lol
9. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #9 9th January 2008, 23:42

   i thought you ment you'd spent 4.5k on your engine?
10. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

    #10 9th January 2008, 23:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts i thought you ment you'd spent 4.5k on your engine?

    Nah thats the cost its cost me to do the conversion so far, i think the total cost will be roughly £6,000 possibly more depending on whether i see many hiccups along the way.
    
    Engines going in with as close to new spec as possible anyway so it should last me a while
11. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #11 9th January 2008, 23:52

    im dreading to think how much mine is costing aswell.
12. user_8040 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2005 MaDchester Posts: 8432 Vts

    #12 10th January 2008, 00:01

    where do u get the money for that!!, thats daft money considering it isnt turbod imo
    
    well done for doing it tho!
13. leeK9 Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 letterkenny,donegal,ireland Posts: 1338 citroen saxo VTS

    #13 10th January 2008, 00:10

    could have vtech power for that money willsy.
    
    but your car is the sex
14. Lorrie_VTR Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Falmouth Posts: 177 Saxo 1.6 8v VTR

    #14 10th January 2008, 08:31

    VTS engine for £200 less the gearbox, inc. exhaust manifold. Its got 60k on it.
15. Colin Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 Banbury Posts: 4623 Saxo Rally Car Evo 6

    #15 10th January 2008, 15:16

    I bought my VTS engine off a lad who had it for a week, then wrote the car off. I didnt hear it running.
    
    Needless to say it had been thrashed and I blew it up 4 days after it went in the car...
16. Lorrie_VTR Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Falmouth Posts: 177 Saxo 1.6 8v VTR

    #16 10th January 2008, 15:46

    Got it from a breakers in the end, close by, about 50 miles away.
    
    £165, inc. everything except gearbox, with 60k, and a months warrenty.