Yet another raceland manifold thread

1. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

   #1 10th January 2008, 18:34

   Just a quicky though, searched and read through preety much every related thread on here. the jist is;
   
   + Theyre good for the money
   + Glow when hot
   + Give decent gains
   + Have a lower bracket unlike most other manifolds
   
   
   -Badly made
   -Dont last long when heatwrapped, dont last much longer when theyre not wrapped either
   - Bolt holes need filing as theyre in the wrong places slightly
   
   
   What I want to know is how long do they last? I dont drive hard all the time but when i get onto the backroads i like to have a bit of fun Dont wanna buy one if its gonna last 6 months before it cracks/rusts/warps.
   
   
   Cheers
2. Mark51p Super Moderator Joined: Sep 2006 Wakefield Posts: 14427 Golf GT

   #2 10th January 2008, 18:48

   imo id spend the cash on one that will fit straight on.
   
   i tried to fit one of these and gave up
3. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #3 10th January 2008, 18:48

   I've had mine for around 1 1/2 years and still going good !! On a mk1 btw
4. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #4 10th January 2008, 18:55

   would just spend more for a decent gmc or supersprint
5. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

   #5 10th January 2008, 19:04

   Cheers id looked at the Piper, Janspeed and supersprint but hadnt seen the GMC. Its well priced and it looks much better made, ill go for that. Cant rep any of you yet, will do later. Nice one
   
   
6. RedB Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445

   #6 10th January 2008, 19:08

   GMC or BTB if you can matey
   
   I just snapped up a SS exhaust and SS manifold from Kam-Racing and im going to purchase some heat-wrappage tonight
   
   For the money its really worth spending that little bit extra for the piece of mind and fact that you know what you are getting is direct fit and great quality
   
   Plus Kam offer a discount on their manifolds
7. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

   #7 10th January 2008, 19:10

   Very true, normally I dont skimp on parts atall, got the Silkoline oil for example. But im getting bored of the power and i wanna get a 16v lump in summer next year, so i dont wanna fork out loads for 8v parts, but i need a new fannymould.
   
   
   
   Gonna get a supersprint system from kam as theyre universal fitment arent they?
8. RedB Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445

   #8 10th January 2008, 19:36

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Ben_Saxo Very true, normally I dont skimp on parts atall, got the Silkoline oil for example. But im getting bored of the power and i wanna get a 16v lump in summer next year, so i dont wanna fork out loads for 8v parts, but i need a new fannymould. Gonna get a supersprint system from kam as theyre universal fitment arent they?

   My system is blowing and poo at the moment...plus with a RR day coming up in Feb with Cracknell and the CS lot i may aswell
   
   Just bought Silkolene pro oil (£60/70 order on Opie Oils)
   SS centre section
   Braided brake lines and 5.1 pro oil for when i bleed them
   
   Muchos monies spent this month!
   
   SuperSprint are universal fella
9. RedB Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445

   #9 10th January 2008, 19:37

   When the Zetec is sold i will get Cams and a remap along with the last few finishing touches for the summer
   
   Thinking about running bodies and a new KMS standalone setup but dont think i can be arsed to splash more cash if im going to do what i told you
10. jeeves_101 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2007 Weston-S-Mare Posts: 3713 Racing Bronze Mazda MX-5

    #10 10th January 2008, 20:56

    i have a raceland, and have never seen it glow, even after a long hard country lane drive for a fair while
    
    i also managed to get mine on without filling holes, or bashing bits out the way, and so far i have no signs of warping, cracking or rusting.
11. Saxo_Steve Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2006 Prestwick Posts: 952 Saxo VTR mk2

    #11 11th January 2008, 00:01

    Quote:

    Gonna get a supersprint system from kam as theyre universal fitment arent they?

    The vtr one should fit all 8V saxo's and obviously the vts one fits the vts. I got one from kam for the vtr and it's good.
12. RedB Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445

    #12 11th January 2008, 13:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Saxo_Steve The vtr one should fit all 8V saxo's and obviously the vts one fits the vts. I got one from kam for the vtr and it's good.

    Posted above matey
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeeves_101 i have a raceland, and have never seen it glow, even after a long hard country lane drive for a fair while i also managed to get mine on without filling holes, or bashing bits out the way, and so far i have no signs of warping, cracking or rusting.

    Not all war stories then, i have to admit i have seen a few in action but have never seen any glowing action
    
    Do you need to run a Turbo to get a red hot glow? dont think a little Raceland would handle that power anyways...
    Pop goes the manifold
13. Davidp Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Posts: 12553

    #13 11th January 2008, 13:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ben_Saxo Cheers id looked at the Piper, Janspeed and supersprint but hadnt seen the GMC.

    GMC & Piper are the same...?
14. RedB Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445

    #14 11th January 2008, 14:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by David GMC & Piper are the same...?

    Are they?
15. Davidp Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Posts: 12553

    #15 11th January 2008, 14:05

    I always thought they were. Sorry for the hijack Ben...
16. yerdusk Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 selston, notts Posts: 4127 '72 Bug

    #16 11th January 2008, 14:21

    I didnt really have many problems fitting mine, although the whole exhaust system now doesnt sit properly, but never had it glowing at all.
    
    I would recommend it if you didnt want to spend a fortune.
17. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #17 11th January 2008, 14:21

    will try to answer all the questions..
    
    All the manifolds have 8v and 16v versions there are non that fit both cars.
    
    The supersprint is the best made manifold out of all listed here.
    
    Raceland does give decent performance gains despite the thin metals and inconsistant finishing quality. They do glow if worked hard. I was chatting to an engine builder we use who has recently had one on an engine dyno and at first shut down the dyno becuase he thought the glowing was a symptom of the engine running lean
    
    Other downside of the Raceland is if you have a Mk2 with the cat in the manifold. It needs swapping for a mk1 oil filter and thread and a few other little bits
    
    Oh another thing if you are running or want to run a wideband sensor then you should look at an alternative to the Raceland as they don't last long on them
    
    GMC doesn't appear to be all its cracked up to be based on RR figures I've seen. I know GMC must have designed it to work well with a particular spec engine but I'm yet to fine out what that would be. Certainly for a non race engine the 4-2-1s appear to outperform it.
    
    Raceland will last much longer than 6months. Should last a few years min
18. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #18 11th January 2008, 14:32

    Its stainless steel....they are great value for money.
    Will last years dude.
19. OLLYVTS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 West Sussex . Posts: 5690 Subaru Impreza Wrx

    #19 11th January 2008, 15:04

    I think racelands are great for the money!! Mine fitted fine all the holes lined up with the studs perfectly.I would save the cash and get one.
20. d4r3n Established Member Joined: Jun 2007 k-in-a, notts Posts: 1858 bmw 330ci sport !

    #20 11th January 2008, 18:10

    do the gmc manis give out as much bhp increase as the piper would ?
21. RedB Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445

    #21 11th January 2008, 19:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lil-daz-vts do the gmc manis give out as much bhp increase as the piper would ?

    Was just about to ask that
22. mellor L-plater Joined: Nov 2007 Driffield - East Yorkshire Posts: 70 MK1 VTR Fiesta Turbo

    #22 12th January 2008, 13:48

    ive just ordered a raceland one - will do for what i need it for at the end of the day - i aint no loeb and its only a VTR haha if you wanted to get the best money can afford - get yourself a primary designs one! Dont expect change from a grand though
23. liam_b Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 paignton Posts: 3168 saxo

    #23 12th January 2008, 14:53

    i have had my raceland just under a month and was a fooker to fit and its started rusting already
24. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #24 12th January 2008, 20:09

    rusting on stainless steel. This is why im not lovin the raceland idea