depinning illegal?

1. 1100desire Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 West Bromwich Posts: 828

   #1 18th January 2008, 18:03

   is it considered perfectly fine and will pas mot for definate like it?
2. jonny13_vtr Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 belfast Posts: 264 IMPREZA WRX

   #2 18th January 2008, 18:05

   cant see why it wouldnt be
3. user_3656 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2004 Herts. N/W London Posts: 13578 Project MK4 MoreDoor

   #3 18th January 2008, 18:08

   fine mate. my cars have always got through without them
   Alot of new cars these days dont have door pins either.
4. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

   #4 18th January 2008, 18:44

   As above, perfectly fine, passes MOT's without them and best of all it will help a fair bit with your cars security
5. 1100desire Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 West Bromwich Posts: 828

   #5 18th January 2008, 18:48

   lol i bet ill get some horrible mot guy and he'll be like oh no unacceptable fail.
6. nazz1 Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 South Wales Posts: 2076 Saxoless

   #6 18th January 2008, 19:05

   it's surely better for the car without them
7. jonny13_vtr Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 belfast Posts: 264 IMPREZA WRX

   #7 18th January 2008, 19:06

   nah mate it wont matter how much of a ballbag he is. my 206 doesnt have them. she passes every time
8. 1100desire Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 West Bromwich Posts: 828

   #8 19th January 2008, 20:35

   anyone else opinions on the legality of depinning ? or
9. Ben_L Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 Billericay, Essex (England) Posts: 6774 1.1.1i, 2.Mk2 VTR 3.Astra SRI 150

   #9 19th January 2008, 20:39

   dont see that it would be a problem, aslong as the door opens, closes and locks ok it wont be a problem...
10. jc1991 Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Posts: 233

    #10 19th January 2008, 20:39

    hope they are legal,helped depinning my sisters saxo today!
11. MintedSaxo Established Member Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 1831

    #11 19th January 2008, 20:50

    they are legal
12. Lee_P Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2004 brierly hill , Dudley Posts: 4869 Saxo VTR MK2 : ( no moreeee got galaxy now

    #12 19th January 2008, 22:54

    yep nothing said about them being illegal anywhere
13. teebag Established Member Joined: May 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 1245 1997 R Reg MK1 VT1.0 saxo

    #13 19th January 2008, 23:50

    depinnig/ delocking is fine its de handling thats illegal
14. Crunkers Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Verwood Posts: 5217 53 Renault Clio 1.2 16v

    #14 19th January 2008, 23:53

    Is depinning an easy thing to do? Sorry to hi-jack the thread mate
15. Krys_23 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6543

    #15 19th January 2008, 23:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by McCrunk Is depinning an easy thing to do? Sorry to hi-jack the thread mate

    I'm sure there's a Thread been made on it mate just have a look.. sure i've been on it before, think pred did it not sure though.
16. Crunkers Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Verwood Posts: 5217 53 Renault Clio 1.2 16v

    #16 20th January 2008, 00:07

    Does it hinder the central locking or an alarm from working?
17. JohnPartridge Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2007 Solihull Posts: 346 Saxo 1.4 Forte, Posi Blue

    #17 20th January 2008, 00:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by McCrunk Does it hinder the central locking or an alarm from working?

    Nope not at all.
    
    IIRC all you need is to be able to open the door from both the inside and the outside and lock the door to pass.
18. Crunkers Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Verwood Posts: 5217 53 Renault Clio 1.2 16v

    #18 20th January 2008, 00:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JohnPartridge Nope not at all. IIRC all you need is to be able to open the door from both the inside and the outside and lock the door to pass.

    But how does the door lock properly without the pins? I have a Clifford Concept 650 alarm. Can you garanutee that this would not cause a problem with the alarm?
19. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #19 20th January 2008, 01:13

    some people say that you need a means of escaping from the car in an emergency, some testers or cops might argue the point, if so then buy an emergency hammer that you can use to break glass
    
    i very much doubt you will fail an mot or have any problems, ive never heard any stories of this happening
20. Crunkers Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Verwood Posts: 5217 53 Renault Clio 1.2 16v

    #20 20th January 2008, 01:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR some people say that you need a means of escaping from the car in an emergency, some testers or cops might argue the point, if so then buy an emergency hammer that you can use to break glass i very much doubt you will fail an mot or have any problems, ive never heard any stories of this happening

    Pred, your a man of the world. How does de-pinning work with the alarm. Is it just a case of remove them pins and the alarm still functions as normal. Can I still use the central locking etc?
21. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #21 20th January 2008, 01:24

    mine still works, if the car is started when you lock the doors the alarm wont arm itself but if the keys are out or just pushed in and pressed it will arm itself
22. Crunkers Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Verwood Posts: 5217 53 Renault Clio 1.2 16v

    #22 20th January 2008, 01:27

    but can i still unlock the doors with my remote or not?
23. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #23 20th January 2008, 01:29

    yeah mate course you can
    
    its got nothing to do with the central locking, well it has as its connected to the actuator/solenoid thing but your removing the doorpin, can stil lock the car with remote on the inside, key and remote on the outside
24. RedB Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445

    #24 20th January 2008, 01:32

    Here we go
    
    http://www.saxperience.com/mods/show...e.php?artid=31
    
    Not illegal and very very sensible
    
    After this get a much better alarm like a clifford or toad to beef things up a bit
25. Crunkers Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Verwood Posts: 5217 53 Renault Clio 1.2 16v

    #25 20th January 2008, 01:33

    So it actually makes no difference in terms of what the alarm can do, but makes the car safer? Correct?
26. RedB Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445

    #26 20th January 2008, 01:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by McCrunk So it actually makes no difference in terms of what the alarm can do, but makes the car safer? Correct?

    Correct
    
    The alarm is electronic and works differently to how the manual locking system with pins involved does
27. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #27 20th January 2008, 01:42

    yes its more for people who break the glass and pull the pin up, or pop the lock (which is very easy on a saxo) and then pull the pin up, thats what happend to mine anyway
28. RedB Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445

    #28 20th January 2008, 01:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR yes its more for people who break the glass and pull the pin up, or pop the lock (which is very easy on a saxo) and then pull the pin up, thats what happend to mine anyway

    If you had pins left in i could break into your car easily in under 20/30 seconds
    
    Not going to say how but its a pretty obvious method...
    
    Dont waste your time/money and worst off all let your hard work go to waste
    
    Beefinf up security is the first place to go then move onto ICE etc
29. Crunkers Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Verwood Posts: 5217 53 Renault Clio 1.2 16v

    #29 20th January 2008, 01:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR yes its more for people who break the glass and pull the pin up, or pop the lock (which is very easy on a saxo) and then pull the pin up, thats what happend to mine anyway

    Thats what happened to mine, screw driver by the lock, and then popped the pin. I think I may do this. Any ideas whats the best thing to seal the holes afterwards?
30. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #30 20th January 2008, 01:54

    yeah i know a trick of doing it, never tryed it but supposed to work but wont discuss that here
    
    as red has said, nothing better than getting yourself a cat1 alarm, and even delock the doors if you can afford i
31. RedB Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445

    #31 20th January 2008, 01:55

    Body filler like Isopon to smooth it completely or a cheap rubber plug from Halfrauds
    
    Cost less than a quid
32. Crunkers Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Verwood Posts: 5217 53 Renault Clio 1.2 16v

    #32 20th January 2008, 01:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR yeah i knotrick of doing it, never tryed it bt suposed to work but wont discuss that here as red has said, nothing better than getting yourself a cat1 alarm, and even delock the doors if you can afford i

    Got a cat1 alarm and it delocked. So now I'll just remove the pins I think. Thanks for the help guys. Repped both of you
    
    Sorry Pred, would let me rep you
33. 1100desire Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 West Bromwich Posts: 828

    #33 20th January 2008, 13:05

    any mot testers here?
34. -Richard- Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 Nottingham Posts: 4882 Ford Transit

    #34 20th January 2008, 13:51

    mine passed ok last week
35. labtec104 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2006 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 240 Saxo vtr 1.6 8V

    #35 20th January 2008, 18:00

    100% legal.. i have a mate whose MOT bloke and he said "corse its legal, some new cars arent made with pins"
    
    And no it does not affect the central locking or alarm system.
36. user_3656 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2004 Herts. N/W London Posts: 13578 Project MK4 MoreDoor

    #36 21st January 2008, 00:01

    how many times you want to be told that its fine?! LOL