Rallye inlet?....

  1. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 3068
    #1
    Can anyone enlighten me to wether a S1 Rallye inlet will fit on a Furio?

    And will i use my throttle body or the one off the Rallye and what about sensors will they hook up to the ECU or they different?



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  2. Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2003 Tayside Posts: 893 S/c VT!?
    #2
    Even if it does fit physically, you'll probably need to mess around with the sensors. Not all are the same (as i have discovered) - so you may need to cut the wires and solder on the Rallye connectors.

    Also - you'll need a remap in order to get the TPS settings correct.

    I know the Rallye inlet fits the early style VTR heads - so assume that it'll fit the earlier furio heads as well. But not 100% sure.
  3. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 3068
    #3
    You done this then?
  4. Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2003 Tayside Posts: 893 S/c VT!?
    #4
    Not to a furio, but to a VTR. Been playing around the past couple of weeks doing various things including the Rallye Inlet - and had it fired up and running the other day for the first time with it on. Admittedly the KMS helps - as the TPS issue took all of 30 seconds to resolve with a laptop.

  5. Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Daventry, Northampton Posts: 261 Clio 172
    #5
    hows it running now with the new inlet on?

    had any gains. issues etc?

    just out of curiosity more than anything. spent enough cash on mine for now!
  6. Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2003 Tayside Posts: 893 S/c VT!?
    #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sean
    hows it running now with the new inlet on?
    had any gains. issues etc?
    Only had it running once with the inlet so far, as still got a few other things needing done before i should drive it on the road (like securing the battery down, and getting the wideband working again). But started first time with a couple of presses on the throttle - but the car was acting like that previously anyhow. But once started and heated up it seemed to idle fine - not 100%, but good enough for me.

    Gains - i beleive that the inlet/plenum flows better than the standard one, and obviously will take more boost than a plastic inlet (but that shouldn't be a worry considering 90% of us use plastic inlets with boost). One downside is that because it is metal - it'll get heated up from the engine, and therefore heat up the air going in. However the 106RR had a group buy on PTFE inlet gaskets, which basically cut down the heat transfer - and i've managed to get hold of one of those. So that'll go on the engine when everything else gets done later in the year.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jonny13_vtr
    would you recommened a rallye inlet? and you say its a straight swap?
    Physically - yes, its a straight swap (as long as the port spacing matches). However, you need to change the throttle cable as well. And the outside two wires on the TPS sensor needs swapped. Quite a few of the connectors that plugged into the sensors were different too - so had to cut them and solder on ones from a Rallye loom. I'm not using the ICV/Stepper Motor as the KMS doesn't support it - so don't know if that would cause issues. And if i didn't have the KMS - i'd have needed a remap/similar in order to get the TPS signals correct for the ECU.


    I was breaking a Rallye - so got the inlet/throttle cable/sensor wiring for free, and the fact i had KMS meant no need to pay to get the ECU recognising things. So it was all relatively cheap and straight forward - just time consuming.
  7. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857
    #7
    The stock S1 Rally inlet has a casting core plug in the back off them that has a nasty habit of popping out if you try running a lot of boost. You can help prevent this by drilling two or three holes next to it then get a large head bolt or use a washer to overlap the plug. Or I suspect you could just epoxy it in. I don’t see why you could not take it out and make a alloy plug then weld it in. I guess there are many ways to fix it.
  8. Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2003 Tayside Posts: 893 S/c VT!?
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AXracing View Post
    The stock S1 Rally inlet has a casting core plug in the back off them that has a nasty habit of popping out if you try running a lot of boost. You can help prevent this by drilling two or three holes next to it then get a large head bolt or use a washer to overlap the plug. Or I suspect you could just epoxy it in. I don’t see why you could not take it out and make a alloy plug then weld it in. I guess there are many ways to fix it.
    I wondered what the hell that was

    Will only be running low boost through it just now - when it comes off later in the year before the big boost i'll look into securing it in place. I take it you know of a few cars running boost with this inlet?
  9. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857
    #9
    Only one but gave up on the plan in the end.
  10. Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AXracing View Post
    The stock S1 Rally inlet has a casting core plug in the back off them that has a nasty habit of popping out if you try running a lot of boost. You can help prevent this by drilling two or three holes next to it then get a large head bolt or use a washer to overlap the plug. Or I suspect you could just epoxy it in. I don’t see why you could not take it out and make a alloy plug then weld it in. I guess there are many ways to fix it.
    id better get the drill out lol