Turbo or SuperCharged

28th February 2005, 04:33

I got a mk2 VTR and i saved up £5000. I want to add either a turbo or a supercharger! Which is best and where can is the best place to do this? i live in buckinghamshire.

28th February 2005, 05:14

well there both about the same for power increases,but i think it depends what other mods u have had done to the engine?a turbo conversion will cost u round £3000+ and roughly the same for a supercharger!

for a supercharger there are a few places that do it but the main one that comes to mind is gmcmotorsport in scotland!

i no dpmotorsport did a turbo conversion but im not sure if they still do it?

check out the following places for info:
- www.gmcmotorsport.co.uk
- www.dpmotorsport.co.uk
also citunning do a conversion but cant think of the web address!

28th February 2005, 05:18

dp no longer do it, the cituning one has yet to prove itself, also carworx have started doing turbo conversions and so far so good it would seem. They also do supercharger conversions but the real daddy is gmc motorsport, although they do not offer a turbo conversion they can handle anything to do with them as simo has proven

28th February 2005, 23:41

talk to PTS performacce turbo systems they quoted me £3.5k for turbo.... plus a curtousy car... sounded really sesible, professional & helpfull.... not sure of the web adress or tel number but call 118118 im sure they will no!

1st March 2005, 03:37

Thnx i check them out! where bouts are they?

1st March 2005, 04:53

found pts

5th March 2005, 19:38

as i have just sent my car to gmc motorsport to get supercharged i would say get that done.i just spoken to john at gmc and he has just finished rolling roading the car which is pushing out 190 at the wheels.he is running the car in for a week for me,so i can pick it up on saturday

5th March 2005, 23:27

Nice !!
great power output there !
How much is that costing you ? If you don't mind me asking?

5th March 2005, 23:47

its setting me back £7000,cos i am getting an 84 charger unit in there which they have put a restricter into to stop it running its full potential until i get my gearbox.i am also getting big brakes with 4 pot calipers,with other bits and bobs.i will send pictures in when i get it back

5th March 2005, 23:50

make sure you do mate..
Im sure they will be more than a few people interested.

5th March 2005, 23:53

when the gearbox goes in.the restriter is coming off and going to be running 240 at the wheels with standard management

6th March 2005, 00:01

Will have to get that R/R with a printout for us then !

6th March 2005, 00:08

stadard internals?

6th March 2005, 04:23

all that wil be left to do is make her Rear wheel Drive, ass out everywhere!! how much fun would that be!

6th March 2005, 23:55

love to make her rear wheel drive,does anyone know if it has been done

7th March 2005, 00:57

106 running RS turbo engine in the rear, only to do it really would be to put the engine in the rear rather than making a tunnel for the propshaft and having to convert the rear end to struts anyway

7th March 2005, 00:58

240 at the wheels is that possible on standard management? Also your going to need some low comps as those pistons wont last 5 seconds.

P.S. Start saving for the gearbox as it isnt cheap.Run the one u have now until it packs in

7th March 2005, 01:11

Matt andyl's on ssc is making 231 at the wheels on standard management, for now, as far as im aware

7th March 2005, 01:14

How could I forget about that motor..

And I only made 200 at the wheels, or well more injection of cash needed.

7th March 2005, 01:28

LMBO! Â© sax-p @ only 200 at the wheels!

7th March 2005, 01:39

7th March 2005, 23:30

forged pistons are already in the car with head work done aswell.gearbox should be in within 4 months

11th March 2005, 04:01

how much will that be extra on insurance if you dont mind me askin?Im sure its gonna eat up civic type r's, n scobbys

11th March 2005, 04:21

I'd love a saxo with 240bhp at the wheels. What about servicing the supercharger tho? like on VW G60's, they need the supercharger rebuilt after like every 6000 miles or sumin i heard

??

If the power gains are near enough the same, the sound of a dumpvalve would sway me towards a turbo conversion to be honest, may sound trivial but come on...WWAARRPTSS!! can't fault it!

11th March 2005, 04:30

id also have to say the vvrrrooom ppttsshh of the dump valve would sway me more to a turbo!

11th March 2005, 05:07

dump valve with a super charger as well.

No they dont need rebuilt every 6k miles, something like every 40k

11th March 2005, 05:25

wot u can have a dump valve with a supercharger?? i never new that!

11th March 2005, 06:07

you always could, it was always though to be no point due to loss of bosot pressure in the inlet pipe, but a few people have succesfully ran dump valves an chargers without any side effects

11th March 2005, 06:18

u learn something new every day!

11th March 2005, 20:51

told insurance everything.my insurance is only going up by 150.i am with adrian flux.i was told if you fit a dump valve to the supercharger it looses power,is this true

11th March 2005, 20:54

Turbo cos u can gain more power throu a turbo but a supercharger can kill ur engine if done wrong, where as a turbo can be tweekd.

Up to you thou.

Hope i was soem help.

12th March 2005, 00:43

12th March 2005, 04:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxo_2004

Turbo cos u can gain more power throu a turbo but a supercharger can kill ur engine if done wrong, where as a turbo can be tweekd.

Up to you thou.

Hope i was soem help.

erm care to explain any of that statement?

(a)you can gain just as much from a supercharger as you can a turbocharger.
(b)turbo will fuck youe engine EXACTLY like a turbo will fuck your engine if done wrong

12th March 2005, 04:52

Matt, I love that bay !!!!

12th March 2005, 05:10

dont think its matts bay tho! i saw that on ssc earlier!

12th March 2005, 05:28

Oh yeh.. and I think Matts is MK2 aswell

12th March 2005, 17:45

thats Pugamall's bay

12th March 2005, 17:56

its a nice bay tho! yeah matts is a mk2!

12th March 2005, 18:04

i agree its lovely

13th March 2005, 04:15

Nah, this is mine

13th March 2005, 04:45

Looks great aswell !

13th March 2005, 06:20

yeah mate looks nice!could do with polishing the head,n stainless bits tho!

13th March 2005, 14:38

I know but after that little job

I'm skint. Want to get some stuff from Spec R, ecu cover,fuse cover and battery.

13th March 2005, 15:14

Some good chat going on here guys!

All of you charged boys - make sure you get plenty of photos of your cars and bays, as these will be very handy for v4!

Matt - Isnt it about time you sorted out some video footage for us

There has never been supercharger footage around the net? I can host... it will be interesting to compare withthe turbo vids.

Make it so...

13th March 2005, 15:58

I will try and sort something out. Still having ploblems with the clutch at the moment. Not going into gear

13th March 2005, 16:36

just got the car back only running 0.4 of boost due to it been running in first.175 at the wheels,i will post some graphs on soon.got to get bigger bore exhaust first then got and see john at gmc to up the boost th get 200 at wheels

13th March 2005, 17:01

John set mine up to start with 0.6 boost. Who's doing the work? You must be pleased with 175 at the wheels

13th March 2005, 23:45

Vids would be great.. Id like to see them !

14th March 2005, 00:18

johns doing the work himself.i am very pleased with the power.how much bhp are u running

14th March 2005, 00:24

id also like to see some vids think they'd be very good.

14th March 2005, 00:57

i am going back down on the 26 of this month and hopefuly going to take a vid camera with me

14th March 2005, 03:09

200 AT THE WHEELS

14th March 2005, 23:54

what charger have you got on there,have you got any 1/4 mile times if so i would be very interested to know what they are

15th March 2005, 03:53

74 mate, not times yet

17th March 2005, 23:14

does anyone know what the most bhp at the wheels is for a supercharged saxo

17th March 2005, 23:21

think its andyl at the moment with 231 at the wheels