Bolt Rounded Off

1. yerdusk Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 selston, notts Posts: 4127 '72 Bug

   #1 17th February 2008, 13:09

   Went to lower torsion today and one of the torx bolts is rounded right off.
   
   Tried hammering a larger torx in but has just made it worse!
   
   Any ideas? Green stuff available for helpful answers!
2. The_Notorious_C_A_T Established Member Joined: May 2007 Near Inverurie (kind of...) Posts: 2303 Twingo Silverstone

   #2 17th February 2008, 13:29

   weld something onto it, so you can get a better grip of it?
   
   Or the usual soak it in like wd40/coke as well, or heat it up?
3. Saxo-Slag Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Stockport, Manchester Posts: 5911 Vtr @ 123bhp R.I.P VTS

   #3 17th February 2008, 14:51

   I had to use a impact driver on mine with flat end bit. Did the trick for me
4. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

   #4 17th February 2008, 14:57

   impact driver if you can
   heat
   wd40/coke
   weld nut on if you can and undo by that
5. yerdusk Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 selston, notts Posts: 4127 '72 Bug

   #5 17th February 2008, 16:30

   Cheers for that guys, rep'd all apart from hessle, need to spread some more.
   
   When you say and impact driver, what exactly you mean by that?
6. jablitt Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 leciester United Kingdom (England) Posts: 720 Westie, Clio 172

   #6 17th February 2008, 16:33

   could you not get mole grips onto it? get a proper heat gun and heat it up, it makes the threads expand and that will make turning it easier.
7. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

   #7 17th February 2008, 16:34

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by yerdusk Cheers for that guys, rep'd all apart from hessle, need to spread some more. When you say and impact driver, what exactly you mean by that?

   http://www.justoffbase.co.uk/Impact-...c-Sealey-AK208
   
   its like a big screw driver what you hit and turn and should make getting it out easier
   
   but im not sure it will wok on yours depending on how bad you have rounded it off
8. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

   #8 17th February 2008, 16:37

   just use a thin chissel and hammer and tap it round, loads of them round off because there rusted, chissel and hammer does it in secs dont it loads of times
9. yerdusk Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 selston, notts Posts: 4127 '72 Bug

   #9 17th February 2008, 16:38

   Its like properly round inside. Tried hammering a socket over it but it wasnt working. I have a blow torch but even if I heat it up I cant see how I can get it off.
10. lavo-vts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 derbyshire Posts: 3515 mk1 vts (ETW Mercury Grey)

    #10 17th February 2008, 16:39

    i like the impact driver looks like you can smack them with a hammer ace
11. yerdusk Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 selston, notts Posts: 4127 '72 Bug

    #11 17th February 2008, 16:39

    cheers steve, will be giving that a go tmrw!!
12. yerdusk Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 selston, notts Posts: 4127 '72 Bug

    #12 17th February 2008, 16:40

    Fancy giving it another go Lloyd?
13. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

    #13 17th February 2008, 16:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by yerdusk Its like properly round inside. Tried hammering a socket over it but it wasnt working. I have a blow torch but even if I heat it up I cant see how I can get it off.

    you place the chissel on the outside adge of the bolt and angle it slightly as u hit it, trust me it loosens it first time
14. lavo-vts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 derbyshire Posts: 3515 mk1 vts (ETW Mercury Grey)

    #14 17th February 2008, 16:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by yerdusk Fancy giving it another go Lloyd?

    yesh ads. i tried tellin ya to do that but your tools are limited to socket set allen keys. i will bring some chisels
15. yerdusk Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 selston, notts Posts: 4127 '72 Bug

    #15 17th February 2008, 16:42

    Cool, nice one steve, never even thought of that!
    
    Rep'd
16. lavo-vts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 derbyshire Posts: 3515 mk1 vts (ETW Mercury Grey)

    #16 17th February 2008, 16:46

    ill bring a proper hammer aswell
17. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

    #17 17th February 2008, 16:55

    here is a pic of a torsion bar bolt that i had used a chissel on to get it off, you can see the indentation it left after i had tapped it loose, i replaced all the torx bolts with new 13mm headed bolts instead to save future rounding
    
    
18. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #18 17th February 2008, 17:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by yerdusk Went to lower torsion today and one of the torx bolts is rounded right off. Tried hammering a larger torx in but has just made it worse! Any ideas? Green stuff available for helpful answers!

    chizzle and a hammer thats what williams used on mine
19. yerdusk Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 selston, notts Posts: 4127 '72 Bug

    #19 17th February 2008, 17:05

    Cheers for those pics steve. So if I just whack a 13mm bolt in after it should be ok yeah?
20. Saxo-Slag Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Stockport, Manchester Posts: 5911 Vtr @ 123bhp R.I.P VTS

    #20 17th February 2008, 17:07

    Mine was well worse than that steve. You cant really heat it up the side i was on due to the fuel tank n pipes
21. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

    #21 17th February 2008, 17:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by yerdusk Cheers for those pics steve. So if I just whack a 13mm bolt in after it should be ok yeah?

    Yeah jsut make sure the new bolt is the same lenth as the old one, i got a bag of them from b&q for a couple of quid that were the same lenth.
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by seanp06 Mine was well worse than that steve. You cant really heat it up the side i was on due to the fuel tank n pipes

    Tbh i dont think i even attemped to undo that particular one in the pic with the torx bit, i think the first one i did rounded and as i got the chissel out to take that one off i jsut did the rest with the chissel aswell as only takes a sec to do, also no need to heat it up the chissel and hammer does it first time every time without heating it, jsut make sure the chissel u use is a good one and not made from some soft monky metal lol
22. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #22 17th February 2008, 17:34

    I just grinded a line onto the bolt head with a dremmel - then used the impact hammer, with a flat head screwdriver bit on - undid straight away!
23. jonezy Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 Carnforth (lancaster) Posts: 1617 55 CTR premier '97 posi vts

    #23 18th February 2008, 00:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevenet15 just use a thin chissel and hammer and tap it round, loads of them round off because there rusted, chissel and hammer does it in secs dont it loads of times

    i did this on my rocker covers. i used a grinder tho to flatten one side of the nut to make it fool proof, was probs a bit overkill tho.