307 Brakes HELP

1. mikevtr Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 malton north yorkshire Posts: 377 Silver citroen saxo vtr mk 2 120BHP

   #1 2nd March 2008, 13:22

   Right them my mate has got a 307 for spares its a 1.6 16v.
   
   Firstly what size brakes will it have and will they fit a vtr if they are 289mm what sort of work is required to make the caliper fit because i have seen the 266mm conversion done in Performance French Cars and it just neede a little nipple thingy grinding of the caliper carrier. Does this apply to the 289 mm conversion????
   
   secondly will the engine out of this fit in the saxo because i think it the same as a c2 and other newer 16v motors. Cheers
   
   i have already done a search and not found the right information Any help is much appreciated
2. Mark51p Super Moderator Joined: Sep 2006 Wakefield Posts: 14427 Golf GT

   #2 2nd March 2008, 13:45

   the engine wont fit without alot of work and money mate. as for the calipers i don think they will fit either
3. maynard Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 birmingham Posts: 1563 vtr mk1, clio 172

   #3 2nd March 2008, 14:22

   im pretty sure the 307 1.6 16v is a 266 mm setup, if so only a small amount of grinding is required (i think on the carrier? correct me if wrong)
   
   so just measure disc and if its 266mm, you should be fine.
4. BenSilverSaxo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2006 Keighley, West Yorkshire & Coventry Posts: 3416 Lupo gti

   #4 2nd March 2008, 14:40

   If you are fitting 283mm brakes (the ones on the gti 180) then expect a lot of pedal travel. What wheels have you got on?
   
   I dont know if the 307 has 266 (206GTI brakes) or 283 tbh. You will have to measure. I may be able to find out from my service box at work.
5. maynard Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 birmingham Posts: 1563 vtr mk1, clio 172

   #5 2nd March 2008, 15:07

   i can find out for definate tomorrow. i think the 307 hdi is 266 mm.
6. maynard Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 birmingham Posts: 1563 vtr mk1, clio 172

   #6 2nd March 2008, 15:16

   right:
   
   307 1.4 is 266mm
   307 1.6 16v is 283mm
   307 2.0 16v is 283mm
   307 1.4 hdi is 266mm
   307 2.0 hdi is 283mm
   
   
   hope this helps you mikevtr
7. mikevtr Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 malton north yorkshire Posts: 377 Silver citroen saxo vtr mk 2 120BHP

   #7 2nd March 2008, 17:40

   Cheers matey thats helpful to me where did you find this out mate so it looks like the brakes are 283mm so how much work is required to fit these brakes then many thanks to all
8. Luke Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 Bradford Posts: 26687 '15 Focus ST-2

   #8 2nd March 2008, 17:40

   What's mine then?
   
   1.6 HDI 307?
9. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

   #9 2nd March 2008, 17:51

   you could probablies get 307 brakes to fit if you make up some brackets
10. mikevtr Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 malton north yorkshire Posts: 377 Silver citroen saxo vtr mk 2 120BHP

    #10 2nd March 2008, 17:58

    Well in the performance french cars mag they got the callipers off a 1.4 307 which is 266m and they had to grind a nipple off the carrier just wondered if the same applies to the larger ones cheers for your input
11. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #11 2nd March 2008, 18:07

    if your good with metaln theres no reason why you cant make up some brackets to fit them mate, otherwise get to and engineering place and they wil help you out
12. mikevtr Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 malton north yorkshire Posts: 377 Silver citroen saxo vtr mk 2 120BHP

    #12 2nd March 2008, 18:13

    i arent that good with metal i can weld and do basic things with metal but i wouldnt say i am good
13. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #13 2nd March 2008, 18:16

    what size alloys you got on tr mate??
14. mikevtr Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 malton north yorkshire Posts: 377 Silver citroen saxo vtr mk 2 120BHP

    #14 2nd March 2008, 18:18

    They are 15 inch momo gtr wheels look ok but i just need some brakes to fill them up and stop the car because the brakes on the car are hopeless
15. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #15 2nd March 2008, 18:38

    well i have organised a group buy on wilwoods if your interested, lowest price would be about 400 delivered i think
16. AlexR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2004 Kunt & Sorrey Posts: 5763 Rep mobiles & Joes ma

    #16 2nd March 2008, 20:33

    they will fit, just needs a little bit of grinding.
    
    most 307s use 283mm brakes, some 1.4s use 266mm but a lot use 283, all estates use 283.
17. mikevtr Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 malton north yorkshire Posts: 377 Silver citroen saxo vtr mk 2 120BHP

    #17 3rd March 2008, 18:42

    what needs grinding then because i have got some 307 calipers for a tenner cheap as chips ey and they only have 30,000 on them buzzin only thing i need is some discs and pads but they are on ebay i am getting them this weekend so i could do with a guide on how to fit the 283 brakes off a 307 many thanks and will be rep'd hope they go on without any hastle
18. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #18 3rd March 2008, 18:44

    well you would have to fit them then try the wheels on rotate them and see where they are catching
19. mikevtr Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 malton north yorkshire Posts: 377 Silver citroen saxo vtr mk 2 120BHP

    #19 3rd March 2008, 19:03

    Will they scrape on the wheels because the cyclones are 15 inch arent they and they dont scrape do they do you have to grind the carrier like you have to with the 266mm because i am getting the calipers they are cheap as chips for the calipers so i am looking for a guide for anyone that has fitted them to their car cheers mate
20. johnnyg_vts Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Fleetwood Posts: 2244 2002 Saxo VTS

    #20 3rd March 2008, 19:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by maynard im pretty sure the 307 1.6 16v is a 266 mm setup, if so only a small amount of grinding is required (i think on the carrier? correct me if wrong) so just measure disc and if its 266mm, you should be fine.

    my 283mm brakes are off one of these albeit a sw variant - they fit fine and needed no modifications.
21. lavo-vts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 derbyshire Posts: 3515 mk1 vts (ETW Mercury Grey)

    #21 3rd March 2008, 20:58

    1.6 calipers wont fit. im sure its the 1.4 tbh
22. johnnyg_vts Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Fleetwood Posts: 2244 2002 Saxo VTS

    #22 4th March 2008, 09:34

    307 calipers will fit a saxo with no grinding necessary.
23. mikevtr Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 malton north yorkshire Posts: 377 Silver citroen saxo vtr mk 2 120BHP

    #23 4th March 2008, 14:20

    Why dont the 1.6 calipers fit then off a 307
24. johnnyg_vts Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Fleetwood Posts: 2244 2002 Saxo VTS

    #24 4th March 2008, 18:49

    ffs. i have 307 1.6 brakes on my saxo with no mods needed!!!
25. mikevtr Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 malton north yorkshire Posts: 377 Silver citroen saxo vtr mk 2 120BHP

    #25 4th March 2008, 22:00

    so they just bolt straight on then i know the discs will bolt on ok i was just unsure about the calliper carriers because the 266mm calipers require a nipple grindig off them to give clearance so i just wondered if the larger carriers need the same so i am going to get them this weekend and they will bolt straight on then cant wait now to get them on and get them bedded in
26. mikevtr Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 malton north yorkshire Posts: 377 Silver citroen saxo vtr mk 2 120BHP

    #26 4th March 2008, 22:04

    Johnnyg_vts could you get me some pictures of how to get the calipers on and i will rep you again and i have got you on my buddy list now cheers matey it would be greatly appreciated many thanks
27. johnnyg_vts Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Fleetwood Posts: 2244 2002 Saxo VTS

    #27 5th March 2008, 11:00

    2 bolts to the rear attach the caliper to the hub - remove these and reattach the new brakes with them. dead simple, also you need to swap the hoses and bleed your brakes to get rid of air in the system.
28. mikevtr Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 malton north yorkshire Posts: 377 Silver citroen saxo vtr mk 2 120BHP

    #28 5th March 2008, 18:03

    so your sayin use the original saxo brake bolts which are 19 mm bolts and its as easy as that just out of interest what year and engine did the 307 brakes come from mate
29. mikevtr Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 malton north yorkshire Posts: 377 Silver citroen saxo vtr mk 2 120BHP

    #29 5th March 2008, 18:23

    has any body got any guides or pics of how to fit the 307 calipers and discs 283mm pleeeeeeeese heeeeeelp
30. johnnyg_vts Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Fleetwood Posts: 2244 2002 Saxo VTS

    #30 7th March 2008, 14:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mikevtr so your sayin use the original saxo brake bolts which are 19 mm bolts and its as easy as that just out of interest what year and engine did the 307 brakes come from mate

    yes.
    
    mine were from a 2001 307 sw 1.6 16v mate.
31. johnnyg_vts Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Fleetwood Posts: 2244 2002 Saxo VTS

    #31 7th March 2008, 14:09

    hmmm could of been a 2002 but they are the same regardless!
32. mikevtr Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 malton north yorkshire Posts: 377 Silver citroen saxo vtr mk 2 120BHP

    #32 7th March 2008, 15:34

    cheers matey REP'D so you dont need to do any grinding then they just bolt on with the existing caliper bolts then that come from the standard calipers mate
33. Bowey Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 Stockton on tees (Norton) Posts: 1497 A45

    #33 7th March 2008, 16:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by johnnyg_vts yes. mine were from a 2001 307 sw 1.6 16v mate.

    
    r u sure they wernt from a HDI lol
34. johnnyg_vts Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Fleetwood Posts: 2244 2002 Saxo VTS

    #34 7th March 2008, 19:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bowey r u sure they wernt from a HDI lol

    yes mate positive!
35. johnnyg_vts Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Fleetwood Posts: 2244 2002 Saxo VTS

    #35 7th March 2008, 19:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mikevtr cheers matey REP'D so you dont need to do any grinding then they just bolt on with the existing caliper bolts then that come from the standard calipers mate

    yes