Front Bumper Splitter query!!!

1. Dan-Subtlem Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2006 Westgate on Sea/Bexley Posts: 17223 Series 1 Rallye

   #1 13th March 2008, 15:27

   Right i have a silver front bumper sitting in my garage which i am going to mess about with, the first thing i want to do is get rid of the standard black splitter at the front, will it just pull off or will i have to cut it off?
   I am going to replace it with a seat ibiza front splitter, are these a direct fit or will it need cutting?
   
   Also i want to smooth over the foglight holes what materials will i need to do this as i presume fibreglass will not stick to the plastic.
   
   Rep will be given.
   
   Cheers
   
   Dan
2. Dan-Subtlem Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2006 Westgate on Sea/Bexley Posts: 17223 Series 1 Rallye

   #2 13th March 2008, 15:50

   anyone???
   
   just bought the ibiza splitter brand new for £17.74 from my local dealer so need help with the above.
3. Quick Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 7064

   #3 13th March 2008, 16:23

   Splitter may need some reshaping for best fit!
4. J-Reid Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2036

   #4 13th March 2008, 16:47

   i think they can fit under the standerd splitter, save you messing about cutting it off.
5. Dan-Subtlem Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2006 Westgate on Sea/Bexley Posts: 17223 Series 1 Rallye

   #5 13th March 2008, 16:48

   yeh they can but the original splitter is tatty and a bit has been cut out near the towing eye so i want to get rid of it.
   
   does it need to be cut off or is it just a simple clip off jobbie?
6. J-Reid Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2036

   #6 13th March 2008, 16:51

   the standerd one needs to be cut off. a newbee asked that a few weeks ago as his was dammaged, i thought it would clip off easy but apparently it doesnt lol
7. Dan-Subtlem Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2006 Westgate on Sea/Bexley Posts: 17223 Series 1 Rallye

   #7 13th March 2008, 16:53

   ok cheers mate, i did have a quick search but didnt see much.
   
   repped.
8. J-Reid Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2036

   #8 13th March 2008, 16:55

   cheers lad. i tryed searching for you aswell but i rememberd reading it. good luck with the bumper lol !
9. Dan-Subtlem Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2006 Westgate on Sea/Bexley Posts: 17223 Series 1 Rallye

   #9 13th March 2008, 17:02

   i think im going to need it, will put up some pics of my progress when i start.
10. pow Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 <3in Jackman Posts: 884 RSport 182

    #10 13th March 2008, 17:03

    Get the hacksaw out.
    
    As for fiberglassing the foglight holes is it really worth the hastle?
    If you do decide to do it, what about plastic welding a flat surface behind the bumper so that the fibreglass wont sag?
11. Dan-Subtlem Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2006 Westgate on Sea/Bexley Posts: 17223 Series 1 Rallye

    #11 13th March 2008, 17:06

    yeh i fancy doing the foglights, seen a few done and they look ok. just fancy something a bit fresh for the front bumper.
    
    well i have decided im going to cut out 2 bits off plastoc off of an old damaged front bumper and then im going to plastic weld it in then go over it with filler.
    
    will take a while but i fancy a challenge.
12. Mark51p Super Moderator Joined: Sep 2006 Wakefield Posts: 14427 Golf GT

    #12 13th March 2008, 17:52

    or you could fible glass some mess to the back of the holes and then build it up with firbe glass from there
13. J-Reid Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2036

    #13 13th March 2008, 17:55

    why dnt you buy fog light covers and just fill in the edges.
    like these covers..
    
    
14. Andy_K Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts

    #14 14th March 2008, 00:32

    as long as you key the area surrounding the fog lights well, the fibreglass will stick to the face of the bumper. Key the rear as well and use mesh (as said) to work to.
    
    Standard splitter will need cutting off.
    
    Ibiza splitter needs the ends trimming off. You also need to cut slots in the rear of the splitter where it will bend to make it more flexible.
15. Dan-Subtlem Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2006 Westgate on Sea/Bexley Posts: 17223 Series 1 Rallye

    #15 14th March 2008, 09:43

    how much of the splitter needs trimming off andy? it should turn up tuesday so wana get cracking straight away.
    
    when you say key what do you mean?
16. Andy_K Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts

    #16 14th March 2008, 10:02

    key = rough the surface up a little. Remove the laquer etc and sand using an 80 grit sandpaper. The surface just needs to be rough for the fibreglass to grip to. One of the reasons why fibreglass and filler crack is because the surface underneath is too smooth and the glass/filler cant grip and so just lifts.
    
    On the ends of the splitter, about 2" needs cutting off at each end iirc. For the corners, I cut little triangles into the back so it can bend as the saxo bumper corners are sharper than the ibiza ones.
    
    Hope this helps
17. Dan-Subtlem Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2006 Westgate on Sea/Bexley Posts: 17223 Series 1 Rallye

    #17 14th March 2008, 10:21

    ah cheers andy massive help, what i will probably do is cut the triangle bits in the back of the splitter, attach it to the bumper and then trim off the ends.
    
    whats the fibreglass like to use? can i use the thin type mesh from b&q's and places like that?
    
    you have been repped andy.
18. Andy_K Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts

    #18 14th March 2008, 11:25

    Cheers mate
    
    Yes - I reccomend fitting splitter before cutting ends off, else you might cut it too short!
    
    Use any mesh, as long as you stick it to the bumper solidly. I'd also cut the lip off the back of the foglight holes (where the lights clamp on to) else you will need fibreglass an inch thick.
    
    Fibreglass isn't too bad to use. Just mix it well with the included hardner and overfill the area. You can then rub it back level with sandpaper and a block.
19. Dan-Subtlem Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2006 Westgate on Sea/Bexley Posts: 17223 Series 1 Rallye

    #19 14th March 2008, 12:11

    cheers andy much appreciated.
    
    will post pics up when i get started.
20. Ge0_Ge Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Thanet/Kent Posts: 1335 106 GTI, Audi S3

    #20 14th March 2008, 22:17

    should look good mate, cant really help you with this never done nefink like this before haha
    
    get some pics up when ur done, good luck
21. j8nno Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Posts: 801 Euro vt rollin on schmidts

    #21 16th March 2008, 16:14

    subtlevtr duno if this helps but i did alot of bodywork smoothing with my old r5 turbo. Halfords sell ready mixed fibreglass, u jus have to mix it with the hardener supplied and ur ready to go. Its bout a tenner i tin and u get quite a bit. Rough the surface as much as u can before using it, and once u have used it, buy some ultra fine finishing filler, it will fill and holes in the fibreglass. use finer and finer sand paper till ur using wet and dry. Should look good mate
22. GreenSaxo Saxperience Addict Joined: Dec 2002 Ashford, Kent, United Kingdom (England) Posts: 12835 Cammed Saxo "desire" 16v

    #22 16th March 2008, 16:42

    as the foglights are the same for all models, you could get some base model cover plates from the ones that dont have fogs.. then fill in the edges..
23. Dodzy Newbie Joined: Sep 2007 Mansfield Posts: 25 1998 Citroen Saxo 1.1

    #23 16th March 2008, 17:17

    sorry to go slightly off topic but roughly what year ibiza should should i get the splitter from? as im after puttin on on my flat arch