oil cooler?

  1. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Lenham, Maidstone Posts: 974 1992 Nissan 200sx S13
    #1
    right im thinknig of buying myself a oil cooler incase i go on any tracks (FCS ) and i was wondering if this kit comes with everything i need? I know i need a snadwich plate with a thermostat in it to stop my oil from freezing lol!

    Has anyone else brought this kit if so pics please

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ksid=p3907.m29
  2. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #2
    can I suggest purchasing an accurate oil temperture gauge first.

    People often fit oil coolers without first determining if they need one in the first place. Overcooling oil is as bad as oil that is too hot
  3. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 evesham, worcs United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3813 197 cup
    #3
    wouldnt bother on a standard engine tbh, cant see you needing it!

    and that matt lewis racing isnt the best of places, i bought a cooler and it turned up with damaged hoses which he made extremly awkard to replace and i eventually got a refund out of him, plus the oil hoses that he sends with the kit are useless coz there so short
  4. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 102
    #4
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KamRacing View Post
    can I suggest purchasing an accurate oil temperture gauge first.

    People often fit oil coolers without first determining if they need one in the first place. Overcooling oil is as bad as oil that is too hot
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  5. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS
    #5
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DomVTR View Post
    right im thinknig of buying myself a oil cooler incase i go on any tracks (FCS ) and i was wondering if this kit comes with everything i need? I know i need a snadwich plate with a thermostat in it to stop my oil from freezing lol!

    Has anyone else brought this kit if so pics please

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ksid=p3907.m29
    Thats the cooler i got, i have all mocal bits with a Setrab cooler, the pipes and everything were all fine and yes thats all you need right there.. It has the sandwich plate and everything..

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KamRacing View Post
    can I suggest purchasing an accurate oil temperture gauge first.

    People often fit oil coolers without first determining if they need one in the first place. Overcooling oil is as bad as oil that is too hot
    With a sandwich plate its not going to overcool is it..

    Also an engine which has some wear when driven hard can lose oil pressure and the oil will get hotter than it should, you know this Kam..

    Keeping the oil temp where it should be will keep the pressure at its optimum and therefore no premature engine wear will occur..Also helps a worn oil pump carry on working as it should when the pressure is where it should be..

    Thats about right..lol

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by samcook View Post
    wouldnt bother on a standard engine tbh, cant see you needing it!
    Why does a VTS have a oil cooler std then?

    Alot of engines come with them come to think of it..




    All in all dude, i would defo get one, your car probably wont ever need it, but if on a trackday something goes wrong it may well save your engine..My oil pressure/temp light never came on but i still got one as its one less thing to go wrong..

    As for pics, i dont have any decent ones but i mounted mine on the crossmember infront of the radiator where Citroen Sport mounted them to the Super 1600's..
  6. Central South Joined: Jun 2006 East Sussex Posts: 3105 VTS :)
    #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mario_1360cc View Post
    Why does a VTS have a oil cooler std then?
    There are pipes that come from a plate where the oil filter is to the rad pipes, not sure if it's for cooling or warming of the oil tho.
  7. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS
    #7
    Its a cooler mate..
  8. Established Member Joined: Dec 2007 Harrietsham/Lenham Posts: 1388 106 xsi
    #8
    i wouldnt bother tbh dom, no point just adding wieght lol
  9. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Lenham, Maidstone Posts: 974 1992 Nissan 200sx S13
    #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by samcook View Post
    wouldnt bother on a standard engine tbh, cant see you needing it!

    and that matt lewis racing isnt the best of places, i bought a cooler and it turned up with damaged hoses which he made extremly awkard to replace and i eventually got a refund out of him, plus the oil hoses that he sends with the kit are useless coz there so short
    well the idea mate was to get it for the future when i start doing mods i mean im planning to hoefully be running 150bhp by the winter/christmas so if it help in the long run then that was the reason i was gonna get one
  10. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 evesham, worcs United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3813 197 cup
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mario_1360cc View Post

    Why does a VTS have a oil cooler std then?

    Alot of engines come with them come to think of it..
    yeh i know, but i was saying a mocal cooler on similar isnt needed on a standard engine, i did plenty of laps on the ring back to back and never had a problem with the oil temp it sat happily just over half all the time.
  11. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 5415 Saxo
    #11
    Raped mine around donington for 20 mins a time, oil was fine. But if you do decide you need one, dont buy a 100 quid kit. The bits alone are cheaper.

    M20 SAndwich plate.
    Hose with 1/2BSP fittings
    Oil cooler.

    Then a pressure/temp gauge will need the correct fittings, demon tweeks have all the bits for them.
  12. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #12
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mario_1360cc View Post

    With a sandwich plate its not going to overcool is it..

    Also an engine which has some wear when driven hard can lose oil pressure and the oil will get hotter than it should, you know this Kam..

    Keeping the oil temp where it should be will keep the pressure at its optimum and therefore no premature engine wear will occur..Also helps a worn oil pump carry on working as it should when the pressure is where it should be..

    Thats about right..lol
    not sure whether you are agreeing or disagreeing with me there. Most modern synthetic oils are shear stable up to 120-130degrees
    A lot of engine builders are of the concensus that a sump temp of 100-110degrees is ideal for a modern engine.