i need too transform

1. therigmakerp Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 leicester Posts: 114 saxo 1600 vtr, honda prelude 2.3 / 4 wheel stear w

   #1 21st March 2008, 19:32

   hi pips, iv got the chance to buy a 16 valve engine , ecu and loom to fit my 1600 8 valve vtr mk 1, the engine is out of a vts, i can get it for £400 the lot, can anyone tell me what i need to transform beside the bits that i have menstioned, thanks in advanced
2. user_8040 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2005 MaDchester Posts: 8432 Vts

   #2 21st March 2008, 20:46

   shouldnt need much more, only a few small parts to finish it off, not sure exactly but cnt see it being much as there a direct fit..
3. therigmakerp Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 leicester Posts: 114 saxo 1600 vtr, honda prelude 2.3 / 4 wheel stear w

   #3 21st March 2008, 20:54

   thanks bud, do you think £450 is about right for the bits, he has upt it from £400 to £450.
4. tif992ss Saxo Breaker Joined: May 2007 Scarborough ,North Yorks Posts: 927 1.1 Saxo with gas ( methane )

   #4 21st March 2008, 21:23

   does the engine inc both manifolds ?
   and can you also get the gearbox with it ?
5. therigmakerp Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 leicester Posts: 114 saxo 1600 vtr, honda prelude 2.3 / 4 wheel stear w

   #5 21st March 2008, 21:30

   gear box, engine, loom,ecu, inlet manifold, outlet manifold would be a nice, he did say i will get every thing to convert.
6. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

   #6 21st March 2008, 21:36

   would help if it came with exhaust manifold.(i would of thought it would be with a inlet manifold any) Gearbox would be a benefit but you can use your vtr one if need be.
7. tif992ss Saxo Breaker Joined: May 2007 Scarborough ,North Yorks Posts: 927 1.1 Saxo with gas ( methane )

   #7 21st March 2008, 21:37

   just bear in mind if your own cars a keypad type and the vts ,is chipped key (or vice versa) then your going to run into quite aload of wiring trouble
   or
   big engine loom conector // little engine loom connector
8. therigmakerp Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 leicester Posts: 114 saxo 1600 vtr, honda prelude 2.3 / 4 wheel stear w

   #8 21st March 2008, 21:54

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by tif992ss just bear in mind if your own cars a keypad type and the vts ,is chipped key (or vice versa) then your going to run into quite aload of wiring trouble or big engine loom conector // little engine loom connector

   i will push him for the outlet manifold on the day i buy it, so hopefully i might get that as well.
   my vtr is keypad type, am i right in thinking that the key pad and ecu are linked, if i by passed the keypad and used the chipped key with the vts's egnition switch (that is if it is the chpped key type that is) would this be the best rout to take.
9. tif992ss Saxo Breaker Joined: May 2007 Scarborough ,North Yorks Posts: 927 1.1 Saxo with gas ( methane )

   #9 21st March 2008, 22:20

   you would ideally need a vts keypad type ecu then , rather than the chipped key type
10. therigmakerp Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 leicester Posts: 114 saxo 1600 vtr, honda prelude 2.3 / 4 wheel stear w

    #10 22nd March 2008, 10:21

    just found out the 16 valve is a keypad start, so its the same as mine, so all good at the moment, would the drive shafts be the same as my vtr.
11. tif992ss Saxo Breaker Joined: May 2007 Scarborough ,North Yorks Posts: 927 1.1 Saxo with gas ( methane )

    #11 22nd March 2008, 12:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by therigmaker just found out the 16 valve is a keypad start, so its the same as mine, so all good at the moment, would the drive shafts be the same as my vtr.

    
    tis all good then !! yes you can use your old vtr shafts
12. therigmakerp Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 leicester Posts: 114 saxo 1600 vtr, honda prelude 2.3 / 4 wheel stear w

    #12 22nd March 2008, 14:47

    thanks for the info tif.
    iv just been to have a look at the engine and give a deposit, it's a good engine, no nocks or rattles or oil leaks.
    he wont let the outlet manifold go with the engine, ha has a buyer for that £200 for the full stainless decat system, now, will i need to change the fuel system or will my vtr fuel system do the job, thanks for any replies.
13. tif992ss Saxo Breaker Joined: May 2007 Scarborough ,North Yorks Posts: 927 1.1 Saxo with gas ( methane )

    #13 22nd March 2008, 18:21

    you may need to put a fuel return pipe from the rail back to the tank ( to do it properly) but cant really think of out-else of top of my balding head
14. therigmakerp Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 leicester Posts: 114 saxo 1600 vtr, honda prelude 2.3 / 4 wheel stear w

    #14 22nd March 2008, 18:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tif992ss you may need to put a fuel return pipe from the rail back to the tank ( to do it properly) but cant really think of out-else of top of my balding head

    is the fuel tank alredy fitted with a pipe to fit a return fuel pipe.
    admire your honasty about the balding mate, all i can say is join the club
15. tif992ss Saxo Breaker Joined: May 2007 Scarborough ,North Yorks Posts: 927 1.1 Saxo with gas ( methane )

    #15 22nd March 2008, 18:42

    check you "old " fuel rail for a return , it may or may not have one
16. therigmakerp Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 leicester Posts: 114 saxo 1600 vtr, honda prelude 2.3 / 4 wheel stear w

    #16 22nd March 2008, 19:35

    jobs a good en, it has a return fuel pipe. tif do you have an outlet manifold for sale, 4-2-1
17. tif992ss Saxo Breaker Joined: May 2007 Scarborough ,North Yorks Posts: 927 1.1 Saxo with gas ( methane )

    #17 23rd March 2008, 08:16

    Get one off Kam racing (off here) they offer various options and their service is excellent , I cant fault them one bit