New brakes advice

1. VTR_Craig Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Lincoln/Newark Posts: 2673 Mercedes C220, Scooby, Saxo VTS

   #1 6th April 2008, 17:11

   Firstly before you bite my head off i have searched but want a definate answer for my query.
   
   I'm coming up for new discs and pads all round on my mk2 03 plate VTR.
   
   I don't want to get a 266mm or 283mm conversion.
   
   Want some better brakes from the 247mm standard setup.
   
   i know the rear discs and pads are fine with the standard setup.
   
   however i want something better for the front.
   
   Now the brake pad guide suggests standard discs with ferodo DS2500 or mintex M1144 pads (can someone confirm that)
   
   would this be a good setup or shall i look at drilled and grooved discs?
   
   if so, any recommendations?
   
   Cheers in advance (reps available)
2. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #2 6th April 2008, 17:22

   see my end post dude
   
   http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...hlight=grooved
   
   Ads
3. VTR_Craig Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Lincoln/Newark Posts: 2673 Mercedes C220, Scooby, Saxo VTS

   #3 6th April 2008, 17:26

   Cheers mate.
   
   What do you think to the standard discs with just uprated pads? (mintex, ferodo)
4. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #4 6th April 2008, 17:38

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by VTR_Craig Cheers mate. What do you think to the standard discs with just uprated pads? (mintex, ferodo)

   you'll increase your braking dude but quite as much as say upgrading the disks at the same time...
   
   you've got to check the friction co-efficient rating vs surface temp... its all good if you get really high friction ratings but its pretty useless if its at 1000C is it? lol
5. VTR_Craig Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Lincoln/Newark Posts: 2673 Mercedes C220, Scooby, Saxo VTS

   #5 6th April 2008, 17:46

   Now you have confused me now lol.
   
   Think i'm going to go with standard discs with ferodo DS2500 or mintex M1144.
   
   which is the better/ most recommended of the two and also will they have a suitable friction vs surface temp rating.
   
   Lol, thanks again mate, i see what your getting at but how can you find out both the friction and temp?
6. scottyvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2007 Paisley / Brighouse lol Posts: 4561 Corsa VXRacing

   #6 6th April 2008, 18:54

   go with the ferodo pads defo !!!!!!
7. RedB Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445

   #7 7th April 2008, 00:01

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by VTR_Craig Now you have confused me now lol. Think i'm going to go with standard discs with ferodo DS2500 or mintex M1144. which is the better/ most recommended of the two and also will they have a suitable friction vs surface temp rating. Lol, thanks again mate, i see what your getting at but how can you find out both the friction and temp?

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by scottyvtr go with the ferodo pads defo !!!!!!

   Basically dude...for the money its not worth paying for huge stopping power on a Forte.
   
   Save your dollar and uprate the pads to some good Ferodo or Mintex pad's as Sayer listed in that guide
8. VTR_Craig Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Lincoln/Newark Posts: 2673 Mercedes C220, Scooby, Saxo VTS

   #8 7th April 2008, 12:33

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by redbullet07 Basically dude...for the money its not worth paying for huge stopping power on a Forte. Save your dollar and uprate the pads to some good Ferodo or Mintex pad's as Sayer listed in that guide

   I have a VTR lol - hence my user name is VTR_Craig not forte_craig.
   
   Don't know if that was a misunderstanding or you were using a forte as an example of a car that doesn't have much power.
   
   Think i'm going to go with the ferodo pads up front and the rest standard.
   
   see how i get on with them
   
   thanks for the help guys.
9. Davidp Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Posts: 12553

   #9 7th April 2008, 12:34

   I think he just saw the forte bit under your name
10. VTR_Craig Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Lincoln/Newark Posts: 2673 Mercedes C220, Scooby, Saxo VTS

    #10 7th April 2008, 12:36

    I think so to.
    
    what brake setup have you got dave?
11. Davidp Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Posts: 12553

    #11 7th April 2008, 12:38

    I bought some 266mm brakes last night mate. The ones that AlexR was selling, with Ferodo Pads... Just need some discs to go with them.
    But at the moment, just on standard ones. I drove a mates ZS the other night too [a little different but hey ho]; and he just has mintex pads and they felt amazing compared to mine...
12. VTR_Craig Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Lincoln/Newark Posts: 2673 Mercedes C220, Scooby, Saxo VTS

    #12 7th April 2008, 12:40

    fair enough
    
    saw them for sale - bargain price if you ask me.
13. Davidp Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Posts: 12553

    #13 7th April 2008, 12:42

    Aye... How come you don't fancy going for it?
14. VTR_Craig Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Lincoln/Newark Posts: 2673 Mercedes C220, Scooby, Saxo VTS

    #14 7th April 2008, 12:44

    Just bought a magnex and looking for a BMC or raceland so one thing at once dude.
    
    You not selling yours now?
15. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #15 7th April 2008, 12:44

    mintex for sure unless your just wanting to blow loads of money and get in on the wilwood group buy
16. VTR_Craig Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Lincoln/Newark Posts: 2673 Mercedes C220, Scooby, Saxo VTS

    #16 7th April 2008, 12:47

    Are the mintex M1144 the pads i want for the 247mm standard setup?
    
    Although more people have said they prefer ferodo i have to listen to pred as he is a legend and now a super moderator.
    
    he may ban me if i dont take his advice lol
17. Davidp Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Posts: 12553

    #17 7th April 2008, 12:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VTR_Craig You not selling yours now?

    No... Change of heart recently! Sorry
18. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #18 7th April 2008, 12:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VTR_Craig Are the mintex M1144 the pads i want for the 247mm standard setup? Although more people have said they prefer ferodo i have to listen to pred as he is a legend and now a super moderator. he may ban me if i dont take his advice lol

    good lad get your credit card out and get wilwoods then