What type of engine is mine?

1. Gavtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 153 Saxo VTR

   #1 16th April 2008, 00:03

   i have a mk1 vtr silvertop, which type is it the roller type. i bought a kent pt11 cam and i was told by the seller it was for my car but now i have been told this cam is for the blacktop non roller type engine? help please if its not have a cam for sale lol
2. frankie Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye

   #2 16th April 2008, 00:05

   it wont fit, if its for a black top.
   
   you got the 90hp silver top engine.
3. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

   #3 16th April 2008, 00:06

   blacktop only im afraid. IIRC the journal sizes are different on some silvertops.
4. djmartin Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 Near Hull Posts: 8405 BMW 3.0 X3,toyota mr2 & Skyline R33

   #4 16th April 2008, 00:06

   how many plugs does your ecu have?
   
   early 2000 mk2 models have the mk1 engine in which is a 1 plug ecu and is (90bhp) late 2000 onwards have the mk2 engine in which has a 3 plug ecu (98bhp)
5. Gavtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 153 Saxo VTR

   #5 16th April 2008, 00:11

   its an s reg so 90bhp engine, seller lied to me then now got a useless piece of metal.
   is mine the roller type engine then?
   cheers for getting back people
6. Gavtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 153 Saxo VTR

   #6 16th April 2008, 00:13

   its deffinatly mk1 silvertop though will it still not fit? not sure if anyone is confused it being the mk2 engine, im wishing now just want the cam in lol
7. djmartin Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 Near Hull Posts: 8405 BMW 3.0 X3,toyota mr2 & Skyline R33

   #7 16th April 2008, 00:14

   PT13 is the one I think you should have got im sure thats what mine is in my saxo lol.
   
   http://www.kentcams.com/
   
   do a search by car
8. Gavtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 153 Saxo VTR

   #8 16th April 2008, 00:25

   i did but it just says vtr doesnt say which model vtr iv already checked there
   cheers anyway mate
9. djmartin Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 Near Hull Posts: 8405 BMW 3.0 X3,toyota mr2 & Skyline R33

   #9 16th April 2008, 00:29

   actually contact them send them an email
   
   im sure if you put yoru cam up for sale in the FS section it will sell pritty quickly then use that money to buy the one for your saxo
10. Gavtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 153 Saxo VTR

    #10 16th April 2008, 00:37

    i cant post in there i tried, it comes up with a message saying i need 50 posts which i have but wont let add a for sale add
11. djmartin Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 Near Hull Posts: 8405 BMW 3.0 X3,toyota mr2 & Skyline R33

    #11 16th April 2008, 00:44

    well when did you get your 50th post?
    
    might have to take 24 hours for it to take effect. dont worry you will get the chance to post in there just dont spam loads of threads to try and get your post count up okies .
    
    the way around the post thing tho is look in the for sale section see who has vtr's and are looking to buy stuff, post them a PM and try and sell them your Cam that way .
    click on the users name select private messages then write one to them
    
    also do a search in the wanted section on the site some people ask if anyone has cams for sale
    
    
    hope I have helped you out in the best way I can.
12. Gavtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 153 Saxo VTR

    #12 16th April 2008, 01:17

    yes mate very helpful, everyone on heres so much more helpful than ssc, some people are good but no where near as much as you guys cheers
13. megabob Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2008 Camborne Posts: 287 Saxo VTR

    #13 16th April 2008, 09:01

    Black = non-roller
    Grey & solver = roller
14. Davidp Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Posts: 12553

    #14 16th April 2008, 09:04

    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87916
15. Nick_106 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 470 Ford Ranger Pick Up

    #15 16th April 2008, 10:16

    Maybe the rocker cover has been changed?
    
    Still take the rocker cover off and check mate!
16. Gavtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 153 Saxo VTR

    #16 16th April 2008, 11:11

    what would i be looking for though to know which type it is
17. djmartin Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 Near Hull Posts: 8405 BMW 3.0 X3,toyota mr2 & Skyline R33

    #17 16th April 2008, 11:28

    all you need to do is tell us how many plugs your ecu has and we fully can confirm what you have
18. Gavtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 153 Saxo VTR

    #18 16th April 2008, 11:34

    just the 1, and im sure that the black top uses ht leads doesnt it where as mine has the coil pack system
19. djmartin Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 Near Hull Posts: 8405 BMW 3.0 X3,toyota mr2 & Skyline R33

    #19 16th April 2008, 11:36

    what year is your saxo?
20. Gavtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 153 Saxo VTR

    #20 16th April 2008, 11:40

    its an s reg 1998
21. littleracer Trouble Maker Joined: Feb 2008 hook,hamshire Posts: 3426 black citroen saxo mk2 & focus ST '225',merc C180

    #21 16th April 2008, 11:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by djmartin what year is your saxo?

    sure he said s-reg,which is 90bhp version silver top?
22. djmartin Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 Near Hull Posts: 8405 BMW 3.0 X3,toyota mr2 & Skyline R33

    #22 16th April 2008, 11:44

    he did after i aske him lmao.
23. djmartin Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 Near Hull Posts: 8405 BMW 3.0 X3,toyota mr2 & Skyline R33

    #23 16th April 2008, 11:48

    so your saxo has a coil pack and has a silver top rocker cover though your saxo is 1998.
    sounds more and more like a later vtr (2000 model) lump has been put into your saxo lol.
    
    othr way you cna find out is by looking at your radiator hose see in the pics
    
    1 - 1996-1998 Blacktop cover = 90bhp
    
    
    2 - 1998-2001 Silvertop cover with catalytic convertor under the car, 1 plug ecu = 90bhp
    
    
    
    radiator hose on the right near the block head they have different adaptors
    if your not sure what im on about look at the hose next to the dipstick and you will notice a difference.
24. Quick Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 7064

    #24 16th April 2008, 12:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by djmartin so your saxo has a coil pack and has a silver top rocker cover though your saxo is 1998. sounds more and more like a later vtr (2000 model) lump has been put into your saxo lol. othr way you cna find out is by looking at your radiator hose see in the pics 1 - 1996-1998 Blacktop cover = 90bhp 2 - 1998-2001 Silvertop cover with catalytic convertor under the car, 1 plug ecu = 90bhp radiator hose on the right near the block head they have different adaptors if your not sure what im on about look at the hose next to the dipstick and you will notice a difference.

    Sounds like the car is just one of the first with a silvertop engine!
    Also IIRC the blacktops had the keypad immobilser & the slatted front grill!
25. djmartin Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 Near Hull Posts: 8405 BMW 3.0 X3,toyota mr2 & Skyline R33

    #25 16th April 2008, 12:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Quick Sounds like the car is just one of the first with a silvertop engine! Also IIRC the blacktops had the keypad immobilser & the slatted front grill!

    aye black tops had the keypad for shure .
    yeh looks like you have a mk1 engine in your saxo buts its the newer mk1 engine just before they made the transaction across to the proper mk2 engine.
    
    mine is the same I have a W reg (2000) vtr mk2 body but its a mk1 engine silver top its like half mk1 engine and half mk2 engine drives the machanics up the wall lol.
26. Gavtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 153 Saxo VTR

    #26 16th April 2008, 12:41

    but defianlty the roller type engine