106 gti engine

1. Tim_1 Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 Porthleven/Cornwall Posts: 601 corsa 1.2 Saxo VTR

   #1 18th April 2008, 00:13

   would a 106 gti engine y reg be one plug or 3 plug,
   
   Thanks in advance, Tim
2. VTR-Chris-VTR Established Member Joined: Jun 2007 Bristol - St George Posts: 2364 Mk2 Saxo VTS

   #2 18th April 2008, 00:17

   Would of though it be a 3 plug if they use same engines as the Saxo VTS and im about 90% sure VTS's have 3 plugs on 2001 Y plates
   
   But best to wait for a 2nd opinion
3. frankie Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye

   #3 18th April 2008, 00:18

   yea but the engine will work with a single plug loom....
4. Tim_1 Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 Porthleven/Cornwall Posts: 601 corsa 1.2 Saxo VTR

   #4 18th April 2008, 00:20

   dont have a VTS single plug loom or ecu
   
   thanks for the info though guys
5. Nick_106 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 470 Ford Ranger Pick Up

   #5 18th April 2008, 01:18

   All vts/gti engine after sept 2000 are 3 plug ecu engines
6. jonezy Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 Carnforth (lancaster) Posts: 1617 55 CTR premier '97 posi vts

   #6 18th April 2008, 01:28

   im sure gti looms are different, mines a 2 plug loom. its off a 1999 car.
7. Tim_1 Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 Porthleven/Cornwall Posts: 601 corsa 1.2 Saxo VTR

   #7 18th April 2008, 08:47

   What about a R reg gti ? thats 1997 isnt it ? ive asked the seller if its a 3 plug but im not 100% if they know lol
8. Sean Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec

   #8 18th April 2008, 08:55

   i'm sure the gti has a 2 plug loom, at least either the early or late gti does
9. beardy Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2006 isle of wight Posts: 761 Impreza STI - Saxo GTI

   #9 18th April 2008, 10:03

   early gti looms where 2 plug where loom connects to rest of the car and 1plug on the ecu,
   
   The 2nd plug doesn't really do much tho. I bought a vts loom for mine tho, plug n play, well kinda
10. Tim_1 Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 Porthleven/Cornwall Posts: 601 corsa 1.2 Saxo VTR

    #10 18th April 2008, 19:38

    hmm, so basically you can fit any year 1.6 16v engine mk 1 or 2 gti or vts to a mk1 vts
    ASLONG as i use a mk1 vts loom and (unlocked) ECU
11. Tim_1 Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 Porthleven/Cornwall Posts: 601 corsa 1.2 Saxo VTR

    #11 18th April 2008, 22:25

    ok, apologies for the massive amount of questions, really need an engine for my car now
    how hard is it to fit a 206. 1.6, 16v engine to a mk1 vts ? are the engine mounts the same? and i presume the wiring will be very different.
    
    Any help would be greatly appriciated.
12. Sean Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec

    #12 18th April 2008, 23:00

    if it's the same as the c2 engine then I think it goes in using the saxo mounts. You'd have to use a saxo vts inlet/throttle body though. Then i 'think' you can use saxo ecu and wiring but not 100% sure on the ins and outs of it. I think gmc offer a complete conversion kit for using this engine, might be worth giving them a call.
13. Tim_1 Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 Porthleven/Cornwall Posts: 601 corsa 1.2 Saxo VTR

    #13 19th April 2008, 19:21

    managed to source a R reg 106 gti engine kinda locally, 450 for the engine, gerabox ,ecu(not unlocked by the sounds of things) and wiring loom.
    
    What would i need to unlock the ecu, is it just the imbomiliser and key ? or is there anything else i need?
    
    also heard that i can use the gti loom just need to chop the loom at one end and make it one plug, anyone have any knowledge fo this ?
14. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #14 19th April 2008, 20:59

    immobiliser and key, should just do it, we unlocked the 3 plug set up ive just sorted to sell.
15. Leemc2008 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 St Ives, Cornwall Posts: 641 98' Saxo VTR/S - 08' VFR800 - 95' Land Rover Offro

    #15 20th April 2008, 10:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tim_1 managed to source a R reg 106 gti engine kinda locally, 450 for the engine, gerabox ,ecu(not unlocked by the sounds of things) and wiring loom. What would i need to unlock the ecu, is it just the imbomiliser and key ? or is there anything else i need? also heard that i can use the gti loom just need to chop the loom at one end and make it one plug, anyone have any knowledge fo this ?

    
    Can this guy also give you one key to that car and the black immobiliser box from underneath the glove box from the same car. It would save you needing to get the ECU unlocked.. Just have to remove the immobilser pickup from around the ignition barrel, tape the 106gti key to it and hide it behind the dash board.. Retain your existing VTR key to open and start the car... thats what I did.. Saved Citroen reprogramming, or running an unlocked ECU..
    
    Make sure that you also get a downpipe for the 16v engine, as the 8v isnt the same. Oh yeh, and a radiator.. Everything else it transferable from the VTR.