what cams for my vts?????

  1. Newbie Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 27
    #1
    alrite ppl, am in the process of purchasing a set of cams for my vts. what is the best option to go for, ie newmans, cat cams, 708's etc

    thanks
  2. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #2
    cat cam 708 newman phase 3 (and kent 285?)
    are all very similar cams

    there good for a bit of power and keep the car driveable
  3. Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2007 sutton coldfield, brum Posts: 496 05CTR, VOLVO S40, MK2 VTS
    #3
    there was a groub buy earlier but the guy from newman cams had agreed to extend it. you can get some newman's for £225incVAT posted, see sticky
  4. Established Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 2279
    #4
    catcams 809's ftw but then you need to spend alot of money.... alot of people use 708's they are good cams.

    Or piper 285's maybe even kent pt52's
  5. Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2007 cheshire, winsford Posts: 493 VTS track car, vtr
    #5
    what are the 809s like?
  6. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux
    #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by vtr130 View Post
    catcams 809's ftw but then you need to spend alot of money.... alot of people use 708's they are good cams.

    Or piper 285's maybe even kent pt52's
    its pt51s lol

    and piper 285s.

    id go for cats or newmans for the price and performance they give.

    809s your looking to run bodies with them so quite wild
  7. Newbie Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 27
    #7
    iv got a price off hi flow heads for a set of phase 1 newmans 325?
    wots the difference in phase 1, compared to phase 3's alotof you are using
  8. L-plater Joined: Apr 2008 Haverhill Posts: 38 1997 saxo VTS. On the way is the EVO 5!
    #8
    809's all the way. high comps, tb, solid lifters, standalone ect. You will love that.
  9. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Ashford kent Posts: 3161 PoP! bAnG! pOp! BaNg!
    #9
    708's all the way for me ..
  10. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wayneyvts View Post
    iv got a price off hi flow heads for a set of phase 1 newmans 325?
    wots the difference in phase 1, compared to phase 3's alotof you are using
    im sure the phase 3s will be the compromise between not a massive difference and going solids.

    someone will have to fill you in on that model. 708s if in doubt though
    also depends what your final plans are and what spec you want to end up with?
  11. L-plater Joined: Jun 2006 Northwich United Kingdom (England) Posts: 68 Renaultsport Clio 182 Trophy
    #11
    Depends how far you want to go. If its a road car id stick with 708s and remap
  12. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445
    #12
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Simps86 View Post
    Depends how far you want to go. If its a road car id stick with 708s and remap
    Is there a cam in between 708's and 809's?

    I want to keep driveability and i wont be getting TB's (he says) but everything else will be done and maybe a new ECU so i can run different maps.

    Want a decent set of cam's to match this setup but not too wild?
  13. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #13
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by redbullet07 View Post
    Is there a cam in between 708's and 809's?

    I want to keep driveability and i wont be getting TB's (he says) but everything else will be done and maybe a new ECU so i can run different maps.

    Want a decent set of cam's to match this setup but not too wild?
    715s, and 734s.

    715s people dont rate.

    734s people do but you need big cut outs in the pistons for them

    and the reason you have TBs is to enable you to keep driveability on a wild cam really. Just get 708s and not worry about big cock figures if you are keeping std inlet etc...
  14. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #14
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wayneyvts View Post
    iv got a price off hi flow heads for a set of phase 1 newmans 325?
    wots the difference in phase 1, compared to phase 3's alotof you are using
    hiflow - overpriced by a mile imo.
  15. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wayneyvts View Post
    iv got a price off hi flow heads for a set of phase 1 newmans 325?
    wots the difference in phase 1, compared to phase 3's alotof you are using
    the phase 1 is only a slight improvement over a normal road cam
    imo its not worth the cash
    the phase 3 is more fast road/slow track
    so gives better power gains
  16. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2007 skipton northyorks Posts: 5275 clio 172 exclusive track toy
    #16
    u will get ph3 for 225 quid delivered if u ring newmans an thats a bargain
  17. Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2006 Ballymena, Northern Ireland Posts: 291 Saxo Vtr/S
    #17
    yea the newmans seem to be good value for money! i i hadnt got cat cams 708's 4 a good price then i was gona gt newmans ph 3's!!
    seem sot give 145-160 bhp when mapped!!
    this depends in induction kit, head work etc...
  18. L-plater Joined: Nov 2007 Taipei Posts: 63 98 Saxo VTS
    #18
    depend on your need, keep hydraulic is better, unless
    you got a super1600 like project, and you need every
    thing right to let you solid perform, or it will be a
    waste.

    road uses or rev under 7K choice 708 is a good idea,
    because it give you a smooth accelerate, PH3 is a
    little like 708 but no detail dyno refer on hand, usually
    708 can reach 190hp maxi, then you need 734 to
    another 10hp, of course TB, Hi comp, BV, headwork...
    everything need to be match.

    forget about the 715, there are just few hp higher
    than 708, but lose lots of low end torque than 708.
  19. Newbie Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 27
    #19
    rite then phase 3 newmans it is then, gna get a set of followers aswell, and got a quote today off wayne at chipwizards to re map it, 470. inc v.a.t............. watch this space. lol