PT 51 or 708?

1. le_petit_gaulois L-plater Joined: May 2008 Posts: 33

   #1 4th May 2008, 19:58

   Hi guyz. I own a 106 rallye and im planning to cam it soon. I've read numerous posts concerning the cams above and I would be grateful if anyone could help me choose between these cams. Help in advance!
2. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #2 4th May 2008, 20:10

   guessing your 106 rallye is a s2 on the continent??
   or has had a conversion if uk
   
   personally id go 708s.
3. le_petit_gaulois L-plater Joined: May 2008 Posts: 33

   #3 4th May 2008, 20:13

   Yeah its a Rallye S2 1.6 16v. I know most people go for the 708s and personally i think u can get more horsepower with em.
4. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #4 4th May 2008, 20:17

   proven to give about 155bhp.
   
   catcams are also cheaper irc.
   
   id go for them if i was buying.
5. le_petit_gaulois L-plater Joined: May 2008 Posts: 33

   #5 4th May 2008, 20:41

   Yeah 150-155 is what im hoping for. I was thinking of buying a peugeot sport chip since i am told that its gonna suit fine. Has anyone tested one on a cammed car?
6. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #6 4th May 2008, 20:50

   pugsport ecu?
   
   not worth it imo, ive got cup cams, with cup ecu they produce about 145bhp irc..
   
   the ecu isnt cheap and also from memory is a bastard on cold start etc..
   
   id just get 708s and a nice remap.
7. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

   #7 4th May 2008, 21:13

   i remember alexs thread on ssc about this. went on for ages didnt it
8. le_petit_gaulois L-plater Joined: May 2008 Posts: 33

   #8 4th May 2008, 23:27

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Ryan pugsport ecu? not worth it imo, ive got cup cams, with cup ecu they produce about 145bhp irc.. the ecu isnt cheap and also from memory is a bastard on cold start etc.. id just get 708s and a nice remap.

   No, i mean just the chip. Some people that it can even handle pt52's...
9. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #9 4th May 2008, 23:30

   i dont like chips on engines as they are pre mapped and not to the exact specifics to your engine itself.
10. le_petit_gaulois L-plater Joined: May 2008 Posts: 33

    #10 4th May 2008, 23:36

    Yeah i know man, but since its gonna cost me sth like 80 euros it's a bargain! lol
11. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #11 4th May 2008, 23:44

    unless the map is wrong and damages your engine due to fueling wrong
12. le_petit_gaulois L-plater Joined: May 2008 Posts: 33

    #12 4th May 2008, 23:47

    Hmmm.. U got me there. lol
13. le_petit_gaulois L-plater Joined: May 2008 Posts: 33

    #13 6th May 2008, 10:55

    After a little search through some forums I came to the conclusion that pt 51's dont produce good power gains, at least not as one would expect. However, newman Ph3's seem to be a good choice for an everyday car, so I might give em a try If i find some used ones! U r thoughts on that plz!!!