driving with catcam 708's without remap to fcs.

  1. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 731
    #1
    heard that there is going to be half price remap at fcs, so thinking of putting my catcams in and driving there without a remap then getting it remapped there.

    can any1 tell me if it will be ok to drive on? it is bout 2 and half hour drive from my house.

    cheers, i know it will use a lot of fuel.

    also who are the company doing the re-maps? do u have to book?
  2. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2005 Potters Bar United Kingdom (England) Posts: 2749 T/B'd VTS
    #2
    give them a call before hand and make sure they can remap the standard ecu.

    there are only a few places that can
  3. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 731
    #3
    dont no what company it is that are doing it, just need sum more info on it, etc
  4. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2005 Potters Bar United Kingdom (England) Posts: 2749 T/B'd VTS
    #4
    oh right, erm ill see if i can find out
  5. Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Posts: 12553
    #5
    List of traders @ FCS 08
  6. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2005 Potters Bar United Kingdom (England) Posts: 2749 T/B'd VTS
    #6
    its sptuning doing the remapping...
  7. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 731
    #7
    cheers for that reppd!
  8. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 731
    #8
    still need to know weather i should drive it before its re-mapped? any1?
  9. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2005 Potters Bar United Kingdom (England) Posts: 2749 T/B'd VTS
    #9
    if you're running a standard ecu with catcams, as long as theyre timed up properly, you will be able to drive them

    i wouldnt recommend you ragging it at all, cos you will funk your engine, but for steady driving for a short distance you will be fine.

    ill also be dubious as to what this tuning company can achieve in a day - it should take a good 5 hours to get a decent map out of it, so dont expect it to be perfect, and cold start will definitely be shite.

    good luck!
  10. Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2008 lanark Posts: 128 97 vts
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pjm300 View Post
    i wouldnt recommend you ragging it at all, cos you will funk your engine, but for steady driving for a short distance you will be fine.

    what damage could it do to the engine??

    not having a dig, just asking.
  11. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2005 Potters Bar United Kingdom (England) Posts: 2749 T/B'd VTS
    #11
    the catcams will be allowing a lot more air in, whereas the ecu will still be allowing for the lift for the standard cams, so will not be putting as much fuel in as is required for the catcams. so there is a great possibility of it running lean - not good
  12. Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2008 lanark Posts: 128 97 vts
    #12
    does the standard ecu not self adjust?

    the MEMS system on rovers does - hence the reason why u cant ever chip a rover or mg - apart from a few of the newer models
  13. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2005 Potters Bar United Kingdom (England) Posts: 2749 T/B'd VTS
    #13
    not to an adequate amount. also ignition timing will be all over the shop
  14. Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2008 lanark Posts: 128 97 vts
    #14
    again i thought the ecu could retard the timing to compensate - i can appreciate not to adequate amount, but surely close enough!!

    ach well you learn something new everyday!!
  15. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2005 Potters Bar United Kingdom (England) Posts: 2749 T/B'd VTS
    #15
    if it could do all that, then there would be no need for standalone engine management
  16. Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2008 lanark Posts: 128 97 vts
    #16
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pjm300 View Post
    if it could do all that, then there would be no need for standalone engine management
    its 2 fairly simple tasks that standard alot of ecu's can manage!!

    all the cars out just now that are equipped with VVC or variable timing can do this.

    standalone management is for applications not designed for factory spec to make the most out of specific modifications.

    i.e. turbo-ing an N/A car, or charging it, some applications with throttle bodies.NOS etc...
  17. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 731
    #17
    so not reccomended to drive 2 n half hours 2 fcs then? gona ring them first before doing anything
    i fink this will be best.
  18. Established Member Joined: May 2007 Newcastle Posts: 1570 mk2 saxo vts vw bora turbo 106 gti
    #18
    my m8 (saxo-ron) got newmans ph3 fitted to his car.
    then 3hour drive to chip wizards and that was ok. spent about 4hours to map it like!
  19. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 731
    #19
    cheers mate thats what i needed to know.
  20. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi
    #20
    mate, i drove my vts for 6 month on standard ecu and 708s in. done trackdays and 1/4 miles and never missed a beat. was just as good on fuel as it was standard.
  21. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux
    #21
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by williamsvts View Post
    mate, i drove my vts for 6 month on standard ecu and 708s in. done trackdays and 1/4 miles and never missed a beat. was just as good on fuel as it was standard.
    and i drove longer than that without map.lol
  22. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 731
    #22
    ahhh mint
    just out of interest, what were you getting 1/4 miles? when it wasnt remappd etc.
  23. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi
    #23
    15.1 iirc was a few year ago so might be wrong.
  24. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 731
    #24
    thts not bad for one that hasnt been remapped, sum1 i no had a redtop nova and he was runnin it down santa pod last year and got 15 flat at the performance vauxhall show.
  25. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi
    #25
    i got 14.6 in mine with fucked piston rings