offsets (tried searching)

1. KIRKSTER-VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Gainsborough Posts: 2197 citroen Saxo VTS Silver

   #1 19th May 2008, 20:28

   tried searching but couldnt find anything maybe searching in wrong places , but what offset limit can be used with 20mm hubcentric spacers? cheers
2. Curran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 5387

   #2 19th May 2008, 21:09

   what do you mean offset limit?
   
   do you mean the highest offset you could use with 20mm spacers?
   
   if so i would say 35 for no rubbing. you could fit upto around 42-45 but it will rub.
3. dannyjay Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 Retford, Notts Posts: 5491

   #3 19th May 2008, 21:45

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Curran what do you mean offset limit? do you mean the highest offset you could use with 20mm spacers? if so i would say 35 for no rubbing. you could fit upto around 42-45 but it will rub.

   Bob on, but if your crazy with J you can go -ET
4. Curran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 5387

   #4 19th May 2008, 22:50

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by dannyjay Bob on, but if your crazy with J you can go -ET

   the best wheels have neg offset
   
   obvioulsy it depends on the width of the wheels.
   
   the offsets i mentioned are for 7j wheels.
   
   
   for example if you wanted to fit 10j the offset would go down to 0 with 20mm spacers.
5. KIRKSTER-VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Gainsborough Posts: 2197 citroen Saxo VTS Silver

   #5 20th May 2008, 18:22

   so i could fit et20 and et 23 without spacers?
6. Curran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 5387

   #6 20th May 2008, 21:34

   you probably could but it will rub.
   
   you really need a 5-10mm spacer.
   
   you will get a better stance if you use 20mm spacers though
7. KIRKSTER-VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Gainsborough Posts: 2197 citroen Saxo VTS Silver

   #7 22nd May 2008, 19:04

   ET 28 with 20mm adaptors? would they fit , or could someone make me a list of ET guide with 20mm spacers cheers
8. Curran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 5387

   #8 22nd May 2008, 19:55

   yes they will fit.
   
   basically take away the thickness of the spacers in mm from the offset.
   
   so et28 with 20mm spacers would be the same as et8 which is fine for a saxo.
   
   saxo's are supposed to be et15 so the wheel will be spaced out of the wheel arch by 7mm which is fine as saxo's have the space to do that.
   
   i am assuming the wheels are 7j. if they are any wider then you need to alter the offset to accomodate the extra width.
9. KIRKSTER-VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Gainsborough Posts: 2197 citroen Saxo VTS Silver

   #9 22nd May 2008, 20:02

   ET 28'S are 7j yes
   
   so how would they sit in my arches
10. Curran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 5387

    #10 22nd May 2008, 21:09

    they wont stick out of the arches if thats what you are worried about.
    
    they will sit 7mm further out than the standard wheels.
    
    you can easily space out the standard wheels 15mm and they would still sit under the arches.
11. KIRKSTER-VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Gainsborough Posts: 2197 citroen Saxo VTS Silver

    #11 22nd May 2008, 21:11

    but would it have a good stance being on 15's and only 7j all round , 14" borbet T's only available in 8j from dubmeister , and there ET23 on the 8j , and i can only get 20mm adaptors
12. Curran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 5387

    #12 22nd May 2008, 23:20

    8j et23 would work with a 20mm adaptor.
    
    the clearance on the inside of the arch would be the same as the standard wheel, so no rubbing BUT they would stick out 25mm further than the standard wheels.
    
    i'm not sure if that would still be under the arch or not. i think it would be ok though.
    
    all you need to do is hold a tape measure against the standard wheels and measure out 25mm. thats where the new wheels will sit.
13. KIRKSTER-VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Gainsborough Posts: 2197 citroen Saxo VTS Silver

    #13 22nd May 2008, 23:23

    well my OZ rims are on 20mm spacers atm but i dno were standard wheels sit as i dont have any
14. Curran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 5387

    #14 23rd May 2008, 11:40

    whats the offset of your OZ wheels?
    
    if its et35 then they sit where the standard wheels do so you can just measure from them.
15. KIRKSTER-VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Gainsborough Posts: 2197 citroen Saxo VTS Silver

    #15 23rd May 2008, 15:03

    just thought my rears were 8j but they were on 20mm spacers , but thing is i cant remember the ET of them
16. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

    #16 23rd May 2008, 15:05

    My cars running an ET of 5 if thats any help to you:
    
    
    
    
    So a negative offset will pop em out even more!
17. KIRKSTER-VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Gainsborough Posts: 2197 citroen Saxo VTS Silver

    #17 23rd May 2008, 15:06

    so your saying i could get the ET20's with 20mm spacers and they will be sat like flush with the rear arches
18. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

    #18 23rd May 2008, 15:15

    Should do technically. ET20 minus 20mm spacers = ET0.
    
    So imagine mine but 5mm more out.
19. KIRKSTER-VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Gainsborough Posts: 2197 citroen Saxo VTS Silver

    #19 23rd May 2008, 15:20

    but on 8j on the rear?
20. KIRKSTER-VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Gainsborough Posts: 2197 citroen Saxo VTS Silver

    #20 23rd May 2008, 15:54

    my rears when i had the gold sax
    8j
    
    
    
21. Curran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 5387

    #21 23rd May 2008, 16:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KIRKSTER-VTS but on 8j on the rear?

    
    no, the extra width of the wheel pushes them out the arches more
22. KIRKSTER-VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Gainsborough Posts: 2197 citroen Saxo VTS Silver

    #22 23rd May 2008, 16:26

    by how much?
23. Curran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 5387

    #23 23rd May 2008, 16:39

    if the wheel is 1 inch wider, thats about 26mm which is divided up on either side of the wheel. so, 13mm on the inside and 13mm on the outside.
    
    so you need to alter the et to accomodate the extra width as cars dont usually have any spare space inside the wheel arch so you have to push the wheel out further.
    
    this website may help you out a bit:
    
    wheel offset calculator
24. KIRKSTER-VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Gainsborough Posts: 2197 citroen Saxo VTS Silver

    #24 23rd May 2008, 16:44

    so what is saxo basic width then
25. Curran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 5387

    #25 23rd May 2008, 16:47

    vts wheels are 15x7 et15
    
    you can work the rest out using that website.
26. KIRKSTER-VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Gainsborough Posts: 2197 citroen Saxo VTS Silver

    #26 23rd May 2008, 16:55

    am i doing it right then , dya just add the normal Et of the new wheels?
27. KIRKSTER-VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Gainsborough Posts: 2197 citroen Saxo VTS Silver

    #27 23rd May 2008, 17:03

    Current Wheel Specs Width 7 inches Offset 15 mm
    
    New Wheel Specs Width 8 inches Offset 23 mm
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Inner Clearance: 41mm less
    
    
    
    (the inside of the wheel to the strut housing)
    
    
    Outer Position: retract 15mm (position of the outside edge of the wheel)
28. KIRKSTER-VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Gainsborough Posts: 2197 citroen Saxo VTS Silver

    #28 23rd May 2008, 17:05

    this mean they wil stick out bye 1.5cm at the rear
29. KIRKSTER-VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Gainsborough Posts: 2197 citroen Saxo VTS Silver

    #29 23rd May 2008, 17:47

    is this correct ? anyone
30. Curran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 5387

    #30 23rd May 2008, 18:28

    no, thats completely wrong.
    
    you need to alter it until it says the inner clearance is the same otherwise you wont get the wheel on.
31. Curran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 5387

    #31 23rd May 2008, 18:31

    i.e
    
    7j et15 has the same inner clearance as an 8j et2
    
    so the wheels that you are looking at are et23 -20 (from the 20mm spacer) = et3 which will be fine.
32. KIRKSTER-VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Gainsborough Posts: 2197 citroen Saxo VTS Silver

    #32 23rd May 2008, 18:46

    what about the outer lip
33. Curran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 5387

    #33 23rd May 2008, 20:33

    it will stick out an extra 26mm