1.4 Furio to a vtr Engine

1. mattvts23 Established Member Joined: Nov 2003 Thornaby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1043

   #1 17th June 2008, 00:15

   Evening all,
   
   I've done a search and had a quick read through. Some threads say that it is possible to use the current gearbox and driveshafts. Is this the case?
   
   So I need:
   
   Vtr Engine & Ecu
   
   Currently the car has a one plug ecu, can I run of that loom if I make sure the vtr ecu is one plug then just plug in ????
   
   Any advice would be helpful
   
   Thanks Matt
2. s3tre2003 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 St.Austell Posts: 972 Moonstine 206 GTI,Aegean Blue 206 GTI180, Citroen

   #2 17th June 2008, 00:24

   i know the gearbox will fit mate..
   
   and the loom will be fine aslong as its a single plug aswell
3. frankie Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye

   #3 17th June 2008, 00:40

   vtr ecu needs to be unlocked.
   
   will need a vtr loom aswell, think the furios are different.
4. mattvts23 Established Member Joined: Nov 2003 Thornaby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1043

   #4 17th June 2008, 08:22

   Thanks guys. Can anyone confirm that you will need the loom as well.
   
   Ta
5. Ashleyp Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504

   #5 17th June 2008, 08:31

   probly better to sell your furio and buy a vtr imo.. they are priced similar, so you shouldnt need to put much cash towards it, whatever you sell furio for will pay for most of the vtr
6. mattvts23 Established Member Joined: Nov 2003 Thornaby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1043

   #6 17th June 2008, 08:33

   engine has gone in the furio
7. Ashleyp Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504

   #7 17th June 2008, 08:35

   ooo lol.. didt realise that lol
8. mattvts23 Established Member Joined: Nov 2003 Thornaby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1043

   #8 17th June 2008, 13:14

   No probs mate. Any ideas people...is the loom ok ?
9. Mark51p Super Moderator Joined: Sep 2006 Wakefield Posts: 14427 Golf GT

   #9 17th June 2008, 13:20

   the driveshaft and gear box will fit.
   iirc you need to do 'like for like'. if you have a 1 plug ecu then use an engine with a 1 plug ecu. however, my furio had a 3 plug ecu.
10. mattvts23 Established Member Joined: Nov 2003 Thornaby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1043

    #10 17th June 2008, 13:43

    Thanks mark, Can you use the old loom and plug the vtr ecu in? As long as its one plug
11. Mark51p Super Moderator Joined: Sep 2006 Wakefield Posts: 14427 Golf GT

    #11 17th June 2008, 14:29

    not too sure mate. you will need to unlock the ECU which i think can be done by pulling the code box ut whilst the engine is running.
    
    if you can get the loom then get the loom mate. are you sure your furio has a single plug ECU? they can look like a single plug from a distance but up close you might find that its a 3 plug.
    i have a furio engine you could have for cheap if your interested?
12. mattvts23 Established Member Joined: Nov 2003 Thornaby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1043

    #12 17th June 2008, 21:58

    Yes its deffinetly a one plug ecu in the car now
13. Jason Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2003 Ireland (Republic of) Posts: 208

    #13 17th June 2008, 22:40

    You'll need the vtr loom as well as unlocked ecu. You may or may not have to splice into the original furio loom depending on the year of your furio compared to the year of vtr ecu+loom you are getting. Gearbox and drives will work fine, but 1.4 and below use a single piece long driveshaft on the driver's side, whereas the vtr and vts use a different type with a carrier bearing who's housing is bolted to the engine block. Not essential to go this route but best as thats the way the 1600's were designed, it also reduces the increase torque steer with your increase in power.