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1. Saxo_s7evo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Billingham Posts: 588 Citreon Saxo VTR

   #1 30th June 2008, 01:12

   Hey guys i bought my vtr as standard about 3 months ago now since then i have had the windows tinted, 17" rims on, supersprint 4 2 1 mani, sportex back box, bosch super4s, Green air filter fed to front and one hell of a sound system in but my main concern is it was faster standard than now why is that? is there anything else to do other than go for a vts (i would but cant afford one yet ) i mean there 4 vtrs where i live and they seem pretty quick and mine like a snail. please help thanks.
2. NaughtyBoy Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Portugal Posts: 128 S2 Rallye

   #2 30th June 2008, 01:20

   Is all that sound just making it heavy?
   
   Also those 17" rims won´t help much!
3. 97vtr Established Member Joined: Dec 2007 Houghton Le Spring, Sunderland Posts: 1582 97 VTR, 03 Corsa 1.8 SRi

   #3 30th June 2008, 01:24

   change your uber huge 17 inch alloys for some 15's or standards, rip out the huge sound system and your rear seats and then feel the free power also get a full supersprint system! and an enclosed induction kit as an open filter will be sucking on hot air and will be doing f**k all for performance!
4. Saxo_s7evo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Billingham Posts: 588 Citreon Saxo VTR

   #4 30th June 2008, 01:32

   Thanks guys i will try ditching the 17`s and go back to vtr standards or some lenso 15`s. the sound system aint much to it really in terms of weight wise tweeters door speakers 4 6x9s 2 1000w amps 1 farahad power cap 12" sub. the open filter is in the corner near my washer fluid with a 72mm cold air feed to it will it make much difference to an enclosed
5. 97vtr Established Member Joined: Dec 2007 Houghton Le Spring, Sunderland Posts: 1582 97 VTR, 03 Corsa 1.8 SRi

   #5 30th June 2008, 01:37

   up to you mate u asked for the advice and i gave it to you, up to you whether ya listen or not tbh
6. Saxo_s7evo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Billingham Posts: 588 Citreon Saxo VTR

   #6 30th June 2008, 01:40

   i appreciate the advice and am going to listen am a bit clueless like numb in the head type thing. i had bought a raceland enclosed but ditched it as i couldnt see how it would get enough air in as the location behind the slam pannel
7. NaughtyBoy Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Portugal Posts: 128 S2 Rallye

   #7 30th June 2008, 01:40

   What´s the make of ur induction?
8. Saxo_s7evo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Billingham Posts: 588 Citreon Saxo VTR

   #8 30th June 2008, 01:43

   i cant remember but green make it i`ll know in the morning when i look in the garage
9. 97vtr Established Member Joined: Dec 2007 Houghton Le Spring, Sunderland Posts: 1582 97 VTR, 03 Corsa 1.8 SRi

   #9 30th June 2008, 01:44

   you ditched probably the 2nd best induction kit you can buy lol
10. Saxo_s7evo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Billingham Posts: 588 Citreon Saxo VTR

    #10 30th June 2008, 01:47

    it sat in the garage at the min like i honestly dont have a clue on how it would be affective to get enough air into the engine as the slam pannel right in the way and there no holes or anything for air to pass into the enclosure.
11. NaughtyBoy Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Portugal Posts: 128 S2 Rallye

    #11 30th June 2008, 01:48

    The raceland inclosed kit it´s one of the best (and cheap) just need to buy a green cotton tho
12. 97vtr Established Member Joined: Dec 2007 Houghton Le Spring, Sunderland Posts: 1582 97 VTR, 03 Corsa 1.8 SRi

    #12 30th June 2008, 01:49

    where you got air feed being fed from?
13. Saxo_s7evo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Billingham Posts: 588 Citreon Saxo VTR

    #13 30th June 2008, 01:52

    that the set up i purchased enclosure and green off www.kam-racing.co.uk i had a go at locating it and it wouldnt sit straight when it was straight the front was blocked by the slam pannel so i took the plastics off and go some chrome pipe and fed the green filter to the front .
14. Saxo_s7evo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Billingham Posts: 588 Citreon Saxo VTR

    #14 30th June 2008, 01:53

    the bottom grill of the bumper
15. 97vtr Established Member Joined: Dec 2007 Houghton Le Spring, Sunderland Posts: 1582 97 VTR, 03 Corsa 1.8 SRi

    #15 30th June 2008, 01:55

    u still got raceland?
16. Saxo_s7evo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Billingham Posts: 588 Citreon Saxo VTR

    #16 30th June 2008, 02:02

    yeah sat in the garage
17. NaughtyBoy Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Portugal Posts: 128 S2 Rallye

    #17 30th June 2008, 02:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 97vtr u still got raceland?

    I see u use a carbon induction, have u ever tried the raceland enclosed induction?
18. Saxo_s7evo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Billingham Posts: 588 Citreon Saxo VTR

    #18 30th June 2008, 02:06

    i dont understand what you mean by that. this the induction kit i purchased
    
    http://www.kamracing.co.uk/citroen-s...r-vts-141.html
19. NaughtyBoy Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Portugal Posts: 128 S2 Rallye

    #19 30th June 2008, 02:13

    That´s the good one mate, i was asking "97vtr" if he has used one like the one u purchased before trying the one he has now!
20. Tim_1 Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 Porthleven/Cornwall Posts: 601 corsa 1.2 Saxo VTR

    #20 30th June 2008, 02:15

    Trust me the raceland will get enough air, mine roars like a monster, got a vts with raceland manifold, supersprint centre section, piper backbox and decat and raceland inclosed with green. made 134 when i had it rr
21. Saxo_s7evo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Billingham Posts: 588 Citreon Saxo VTR

    #21 30th June 2008, 02:18

    you got any pics of the raceland like??
22. NaughtyBoy Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Portugal Posts: 128 S2 Rallye

    #22 30th June 2008, 02:20

    It´s like the one you bought mate
23. Saxo_s7evo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Billingham Posts: 588 Citreon Saxo VTR

    #23 30th June 2008, 02:25

    have you got any pics of it fitted sorry should have made myself more clearer
24. NaughtyBoy Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Portugal Posts: 128 S2 Rallye

    #24 30th June 2008, 02:33

    I don´t mate but there are plenty, it´s easy, but you have to change ur coilpack from the std place, also the oil fluid bottle
25. Saxo_s7evo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Billingham Posts: 588 Citreon Saxo VTR

    #25 30th June 2008, 02:36

    i have a mk2 vtr the coilpack is direct
26. NaughtyBoy Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Portugal Posts: 128 S2 Rallye

    #26 30th June 2008, 02:46

    Lucky you, almost plug&play, the steering oil bottle will need to be pushed to the side tho
27. Saxo_s7evo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Billingham Posts: 588 Citreon Saxo VTR

    #27 30th June 2008, 02:54

    i was talking to the guy at the garage where i had my gear box and clutch done and he said i could probs mount it on the battery bracket out the way altogether then
28. littleracer Trouble Maker Joined: Feb 2008 hook,hamshire Posts: 3426 black citroen saxo mk2 & focus ST '225',merc C180

    #28 30th June 2008, 09:51

    mate of course you gone back,you got a worser induction kit,bigger wheels and more weight lol.
    get smaller wheels for a start,then as said just stick ya raceland on,it will make a big difference,dont worry about how much coverage its got due to slam panel,air gets in there and it stops hot air getting in.
    trust what people say
29. Saxo_s7evo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Billingham Posts: 588 Citreon Saxo VTR

    #29 30th June 2008, 13:47

    ok thanks a lot guys will give it a go see what happens
30. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #30 30th June 2008, 15:03

    you could allways cam it lol
    
    that would make a difference
31. Saxo_s7evo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Billingham Posts: 588 Citreon Saxo VTR

    #31 30th June 2008, 15:12

    how much diffence
32. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #32 30th June 2008, 15:16

    depending on the cam that you use mate,
    
    Youd need vernier pulleys though as a VTR doesnt have these as standard
    and to get the most out of it,
    an ECU remap too.
33. Saxo_s7evo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Billingham Posts: 588 Citreon Saxo VTR

    #33 30th June 2008, 15:21

    will 780 cams do ok ? and alu verniers
34. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #34 30th June 2008, 15:33

    I guess?
    I dont know anyone on here personally with a cammed VTR.
    
    Bang for buck, might aswell have a VTS engine and have more potential future tuning in the first place.
35. NaughtyBoy Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Portugal Posts: 128 S2 Rallye

    #35 30th June 2008, 15:38

    There´s a group buy on newmans for vtr, i think price is 157quid or something like that, it´s a bargain i think and newmans have already been tried on vtr´s
36. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #36 30th June 2008, 15:47

    £157,
    plus then Verniers,
    Plus then the hassle of finding a map etc..
    
    Only to find out you make less power than the 16v lump anyways, and your insurance is more probably than a VTS.
37. Scattle Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Benfleet, Essex Posts: 10834 Megane 225 Cup

    #37 30th June 2008, 15:53

    Dasher-Vtr has just had his Cammed, maybe give him a PM?
38. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #38 30th June 2008, 15:53

    it was a suggestion but I wouldnt
    cammed VTRs have been done a few times
    
    but the insureance goes up a fair bit
39. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #39 30th June 2008, 15:54

    oh also mapping is around 400 quid at least from a decent place
40. NaughtyBoy Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Portugal Posts: 128 S2 Rallye

    #40 30th June 2008, 15:55

    Yes it´s true, it´s pretty expensive, i would advise you to do as i did, 16v conversion, more 20hp in the cheapest way possible
41. Slammed_Posi_Vtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2006 Royal Tunbridge Wells y0 Posts: 2602 Icelandic VTR

    #41 30th June 2008, 16:07

    why tell insurance about cams? thats just stupid considering they are invisible to an insurance company!
42. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #42 30th June 2008, 16:16

    I know
    I didnt about mine tbh
    
    but legally any mid should be declaired
43. Saxo_s7evo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Billingham Posts: 588 Citreon Saxo VTR

    #43 30th June 2008, 16:47

    thanks for the help guys if i new how to rep i would lol i would get a vts but am not in work so cant afford one really barely can afford my vtr see what happens but i was told the cams when you put them in your top end starts to tap and rattle what causes this??