Which Camshafts piper or kent cams?

1. Mattman Newbie Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 21 Saxo VTR

   #1 7th July 2008, 17:48

   I am after getting a new uprated camshaft for my VTR but am not sure what is the best choice piper cams or kent cams can anyone help? Also i dont no what a roller or non roller type is i have a 2002 saxo VTR does anyone no? cheers.
2. Andy_OZ Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 Jersey Posts: 222 Saxo VTR 2003

   #2 7th July 2008, 17:51

   Piper 285 roller type.
   
   but include a sxhaust system and induction kit for the full potential matey!
3. Mattman Newbie Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 21 Saxo VTR

   #3 7th July 2008, 17:54

   yeh cheers i have only got cat back exhaust and no induction kit yet but have got it chipped but hoping to do it all.
4. Mattman Newbie Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 21 Saxo VTR

   #4 7th July 2008, 17:59

   does everyone agree with the piper camshaft and also i changed my cambelt about 6000 miles ago when i replace the camshaft will it need replacing again. Cheers.
5. Andy_OZ Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 Jersey Posts: 222 Saxo VTR 2003

   #5 7th July 2008, 17:59

   gd gd, make sure you get the manifold to get the cat away!
6. Mattman Newbie Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 21 Saxo VTR

   #6 7th July 2008, 18:04

   what like get a 4-1 manifold if so will this connect straight to the downpipe or will i still need a straight through pipe to get rid of the cat.
7. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

   #7 7th July 2008, 18:13

   personly i wouldnt consider cams before manifold(4-2-1 not 4-1) try raceland or supersprint. then youll need a descent air filter, something enclosed like raceland
8. Dasher_VTR Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Swanley,Kent Posts: 866 saxo vtr

   #8 7th July 2008, 18:20

   with a piper 285 cam kit ad vernier pulley i made 122bhp on the rr after it was mapped with basic breather mods. so i would say piper.
9. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

   #9 7th July 2008, 18:37

   to help the engine overall you should run some descent breather mods.
10. Andy_OZ Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 Jersey Posts: 222 Saxo VTR 2003

    #10 7th July 2008, 18:37

    if you get a new manifold (personally only go for supersprint 4-2-1) then you take away the cat anyway as it is incorperated into the manifold on the mk2 versions. kill 2 birds as they say!
    
    you need to set it up so the cam you get has peak power where you want it, so the manifold would be chosen by that decision.
    
    high end power = 4-2-1
    
    low end/mid power - 4-2-1
    
    then you choose your cam shaft to match
11. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

    #11 7th July 2008, 18:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Andy_OZ if you get a new manifold (personally only go for supersprint 4-2-1) then you take away the cat anyway as it is incorperated into the manifold on the mk2 versions. kill 2 birds as they say! you need to set it up so the cam you get has peak power where you want it, so the manifold would be chosen by that decision. high end power = 4-2-1 low end/mid power - 4-2-1 then you choose your cam shaft to match

    do you mean high end 4-1 lol
    
    raceland do a descent manifold too but yea supersprint is the best.
12. Andy_OZ Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 Jersey Posts: 222 Saxo VTR 2003

    #12 7th July 2008, 18:55

    typo sorry!
    
    supersprint has better welding doesnt it? or is it just the name that makes it more expensive!
13. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #13 7th July 2008, 19:22

    alround better, isnt made from tin foil either,but does the trick
14. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

    #14 7th July 2008, 19:56

    supersprint is better quality and build but im sure you would never see any difference n the two once on the car