Furio as fast as VTR

  1. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Newcastle Posts: 2667 Furio FTW
    #1
    this might be a noob question....
    is it possible to make a furio as fast as a STANDARD vtr?
    like with a mani + exhaust decat system, cams, filter, throttle bodies
    can you do enough to one to make it keep upto one?
    i know that predators VTR wastes my furio, but mines completely standard and hes done quite a bit of work on his
  2. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS
    #2
    No doubt you could but it'd take quite a bit of £££. Enjoy the Furio and save for a VTR/ S mate.
  3. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 Sussex Posts: 3891 2x 106 GTi
    #3
    yeah it is possible to get close to 100 BHP with decat, mani, throttle bodies etc but it depends how much you want to spend on making it as fast as the VTR and also depends what power your engine is running standard.
  4. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 5469 Ecoboost
    #4
    Well my westcoast can keep up with VTRs ish, untill 70mph+ then they just pull away
  5. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Newcastle Posts: 2667 Furio FTW
    #5
    im not planning to do this i was just curios
    thats for the help though
  6. Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP
    #6
    well with breathing mods ie exhaust, filter manifold and then get it cammed then it should be to about a standard vtr no bother, but for the cost of all of them its cheaper to just get a vtr engine in or vts engine
  7. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R
    #7
    Might be a cheap way of trying to get it close:

    good filter,
    4-2-1 manifold,
    'box'd' de-cat
    good cat back exhaust system (maybe with a silencer box in it)
    quikshift
    1.1 box - shorter ratios/higher final drive

    most importantly - strip some weight out - free increase in acceleration.
  8. Established Member Joined: Jul 2008 Havant (near Portsmouth) Posts: 1098 Peugeot 206 1.1 LX
    #8
    GSR Engineering will do you an induction kit guaranteed to actually give you a gain, friend with a 1.4 8v 206 is running at 90bhp with the induction kit as proven on a rolling road. You may find your standard output is actually much higher than quoted- on our rolling road day all the cars were putting out more than quoted standard. The 1.1s all had 63bhp-66bhp standard, the 1.4s were 83-87bhp standard and the 1.6s were 93-98bhp standard- all 8v engines.

    I'd recommend a decent induction kit, a 4-2-1 manifold, a revised inlet manifold (maybe a unit from a 1.6), and an upgraded throttle body- also from a 1.6- and then a remap to tie it all together. Overall, it should be around £100-£150 for a genuinely good induction kit, £150 for a Raceland 4-2-1 manifold (eBay), about £30-£50 for a VTR inlet manifold (might get the throttle body with it) and £199 for a remap from Red Dot Racing- that's the group discount price.
  9. Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Amesbury Posts: 710
    #9
    just drop the vtr lump in 2bh mate probs be cheaper im sellin my engine soon if intrested
  10. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi
    #10
    for the effort of an engine swap make it alot faster and drop a turbo in there if you got some cash faster than a S then if all done right!
  11. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Newcastle Posts: 2667 Furio FTW
    #11
    lol im not interested in actually doing any of these things like an engine swap
    i was just wondering if its possible

    surly 4-1 manifolds are better then 4-2-1 though.....
  12. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 Sussex Posts: 3891 2x 106 GTi
    #12
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WilsonSaxo View Post
    lol im not interested in actually doing any of these things like an engine swap
    i was just wondering if its possible

    surly 4-1 manifolds are better then 4-2-1 though.....
    a 4-1 manifold will give you power gains higher up the rev range compared to the more conventional 4-2-1 where the power gains are in the midrange more.
  13. Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR
    #13
    same as above, just either get a vtr or drop a vtr engine in.
  14. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Down't road from Sheffield Posts: 4641 Was:16v 106 XS ..... Now: Import 1.8 MX5
    #14
    106oc chairman got 96bhp from his Quiksilver, with
    Mani
    Decat
    Induction
    VTR inlet
    VTR injectors

    Then went onto add a Kent PT40 cam.

    Mate of mine bought the engine off him, and I was in the car when he went past 2 different VTRs.
    The 1.4 gearbox would have helped too.
  15. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Newcastle Posts: 2667 Furio FTW
    #15
    nearly a month old
  16. Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Erdington, Birmingham Posts: 442 Mk1 Possi Blue Vtr, slammed, White Rims, Leathers,
    #16
    its cheaper to drop a vtr lump in. ive got one for sale lol.
  17. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast
    #17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Furio_Rob View Post
    this might be a noob question....
    is it possible to make a furio as fast as a STANDARD vtr?
    like with a mani + exhaust decat system, cams, filter, throttle bodies
    can you do enough to one to make it keep upto one?
    i know that predators VTR wastes my furio, but mines completely standard and hes done quite a bit of work on his
    Get an S1 rallye box, manifold and exhaust, induction kit, should see you keep up if not quicker